Phone Points

[loanrangie]

Yesterday i went to move a phone point in my house that was previously used for an alarm to a new built in computer desk that is closer to the loungeroom intstead down in the dungeon, but after i went to reconnect the phone cable to the main line i cant get a dial tone. I have disconected/reconnected it but still cant get a dial tone, i have also done many other points in the house and they have never been a problen.
both sets ob cable, blue/white and black red are connected onto the main line but only black/red are live. Is there any easy way to check which are live without having to re crimp the lines together ?

[ladas]

I think you need to do a continutity test between the two ends.

At the far end, (where you plan to put the extension) twist the two wires together in turn, then go to the other end of the wire (where it would link to the main line) and put an ohm meter on those two.

The colours seem a bit odd though if they are original telstra.

We have (on one line) incomming Red, Green, yellow and Black. The extension(s) are just connected to Red and Green (black and yellow are not used) and we have three additional outlets 'hanging' off that incomming

[p38arover]

The standard colours on a line from Telstra was for many, many years (and may still be) blue/white (paired) and red/black (paired).

If I recall correctly blue/white are normally the exchange line pair.

Ron

[loanrangie]

The standard colours on a line from Telstra was for many, many years (and may still be) blue/white (paired) and red/black (paired).

If I recall correctly blue/white are normally the exchange line pair.

Ron

Before i disconnected them they were connected red/red and black/black and i have tried both ways but still nothing ? If the wrong pair is connected will i get an engaged signal if i call my number, when i call from work it just rings out which leads me to thinking that the wrong pair is connected ?

[ladas]

I would try connecting the other pair (blue white) - and try both ways round.

[Andrewpv01]

The "correct" way that I have been taught is 1-Red 2-White 5-Black 6-Blue. (Substitue whatever colours you have, but they must be used in pairs int the correct order)

The line comes in from the exchange on 2 and 6 and the goes to the next handset on 1 and 5.

The main pair you have to have connected is 2/6(written on the phone socket reading from left to right). That is where the phone will get tone from. 1/5 are after the line has gone through the handset.

Andrew

[jik22]

Yesterday i went to move a phone point in my house that was previously used for an alarm

An alarm socket is wired differently - by design they disconnect the other wiring when in use, explaining your lack of dialtone. :D

Caught me out just after moving here when I tried to use the alarm socket in a cupboard for the DSL router and managed to stop all my phones working. Took a bit of Googling to find out that is what it's supposed to do, as it gives the alarm primary and exclusive access to the phone line when needed.

Oh, you do know you're not supposed to touch the wiring here yourself, don't you? That was another shock for me coming from the UK where you can do anything on your own internal wiring. :(

Here's a thread (http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm't=505298) I just found from a quick search on Whirlpool.net Should make things clearer without me having to re-type it all.

[defender90]

Oh, you do know you're not supposed to touch the wiring here yourself, don't you? That was another shock for me coming from the UK where you can do anything on your own internal wiring. :(

you can't touch anything before the fist socket in your house as that is telstra property but everything after that can be done by a aca licensed installer. thats what i was told when i did the course for the stuff

[jik22]

you can't touch anything before the fist socket in your house as that is telstra property but everything after that can be done by a aca licensed installer. thats what i was told when i did the course for the stuff

Yep, exactly right. Swotting up for exams myself as we speak - then I can do mates ADSL setups properly for them with a central splitter. Luckily, my work history and quals from the UK mean I only have to do the exams and then register, otherwise I woudln't bother. :)

[loanrangie]

well i say bollocks to that, i do all my own work, how hard is to wire up 2 cables ? I found my problem anyway, just before the cable dissappears into the conduit there are joiners and one of the wires was broken, a bit of stripping and a new scotchie fixed it in no time, i called a local tech to come and fix it while i was at work but he didnt show up or call to say he couldnt so i just saved myself $90.

and i wasnt trying to use the alarm wiring just cut and reconnect and move to a new location for my puter, alarm was connected to the other line which is no longer live.