View Full Version : Pics from pasha bulker prior to running aground
cal415
15th June 2007, 02:53 PM
I got these pics in my email and thought i would share, looks bloody scary!
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/06/275.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/06/276.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/06/277.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/06/278.jpg
Defender=1st
15th June 2007, 02:55 PM
2hit rather them than me. Thanks for posting
scrambler
15th June 2007, 02:56 PM
:eek2: The crew were probably glad to be on solid ground, never mind the ship!
Quiggers
15th June 2007, 03:24 PM
Thanks scrambler, extraordinary!
The 4th pic is almost unbelievable given the size of the ship. Amazing it didn't roll over....maybe heading for the beach was the only option....
in the 2nd pic there is something in the distance....
GQ
isuzurover
15th June 2007, 03:31 PM
Thanks scrambler, extraordinary!
The 4th pic is almost unbelievable given the size of the ship. Amazing it didn't roll over....maybe heading for the beach was the only option....
GQ
Look how low in the water it is sitting - must have had the ballasts 100% full for stability.
Amazing pics - I want to know where the photographer was!!!
scrambler
15th June 2007, 03:37 PM
Thanks scrambler, extraordinary!
The 4th pic is almost unbelievable given the size of the ship. Amazing it didn't roll over....maybe heading for the beach was the only option....
in the 2nd pic there is something in the distance....
GQ
I suspect you meant to thank cal415 ;)
incisor
15th June 2007, 03:38 PM
Look how low in the water it is sitting - must have had the ballasts 100% full for stability.
Amazing pics - I want to know where the photographer was!!!
she was empty.... that was her downfall.....
i wanna take you lot out for a run in a w class tug in some decent water....
BigJon
15th June 2007, 03:39 PM
i wanna take you lot out for a run in a w class tug in some decent water....
Similar to a submarine?
lokka
15th June 2007, 03:56 PM
Look how low in the water it is sitting - must have had the ballasts 100% full for stability.
Amazing pics - I want to know where the photographer was!!!
Ballast is the reason its on the beach as it didnt have enough in it to keep the prop in the water if it had have had ballast in it would gave got out to sea :D:D:D
MrsMcRover
15th June 2007, 03:57 PM
Im feeling sea sick just Looking at them :o
Reads90
15th June 2007, 04:02 PM
she was empty.... that was her downfall.....
i wanna take you lot out for a run in a w class tug in some decent water....
mmmm been in a 33 foot yatch in the Swinge (near alderney, channel Islands) That makes being in a force 9 gaoe look like a walk in the park.
The water rushes between the islands as 30-40 knots. It like white water rafting in a yatch. The at the end three jet strems hit each other all doing 30-40 knots and all from differant directions.
All you do it harness up (tie yourself to the boat) and hang on
last time we went though wave after wave just went straight over the boat with out breaking . The boat just bobs back up again reay for the next wave. First time you do it you make a terrible mess of your Musto trousers:D
BTW fantasic pics
abaddonxi
15th June 2007, 04:05 PM
Those are remarkably high quality pics for a situation that looks so dangerous.
Cheers
Simon
Discobunny
15th June 2007, 04:23 PM
They are excellent pics,
I hate to be a party pooper :wasntme: but I have seen them before. The pics are actually of another ship, the Selkirk Settler, taken in 1987, see here;
http://www.boatnerd.com/pictures/fleet/spruceglen.htm
The thing with these bulk carriers is when unladed without ballast, the prop is half out of the water, check the stern view pic on the page above.
The Pasha was just churning the water getting blown onto the shore without ballast. Makes it worse as they can't unload anything to make it any lighter to refloat it, just going to have to drag it off.
Pedro_The_Swift
15th June 2007, 04:35 PM
Well Done Discobunny!
explains the lack of land and freeboard!:D
Pedro_The_Swift
15th June 2007, 04:45 PM
Those are remarkably high quality pics for a situation that looks so dangerous.
Cheers
Simon
on the ball as usual Simon;):D
isuzurover
15th June 2007, 06:05 PM
she was empty.... that was her downfall.....
i wanna take you lot out for a run in a w class tug in some decent water....
I don't see how it can be sitting that low in the water in the pics if it had no ballast - maybe they emptied it after those pics were taken???
EDIT:
Exactly - thought it was a bit suss.
They are excellent pics,
I hate to be a party pooper :wasntme: but I have seen them before. The pics are actually of another ship, the Selkirk Settler, taken in 1987, see here;
http://www.boatnerd.com/pictures/fleet/spruceglen.htm
The thing with these bulk carriers is when unladed without ballast, the prop is half out of the water, check the stern view pic on the page above.
The Pasha was just churning the water getting blown onto the shore without ballast. Makes it worse as they can't unload anything to make it any lighter to refloat it, just going to have to drag it off.
Rovernaut
15th June 2007, 07:36 PM
They look very familiar to some pics I saw months ago about ships and stormy seas. especially the last one??????
Quiggers
15th June 2007, 08:13 PM
My apology to Cal415 - been one of those weeks, being a doctorI'm sure you'd understand, scrambler....
GQ
cal415
15th June 2007, 09:30 PM
They are excellent pics,
I hate to be a party pooper :wasntme: but I have seen them before. The pics are actually of another ship, the Selkirk Settler, taken in 1987, see here;
http://www.boatnerd.com/pictures/fleet/spruceglen.htm
The thing with these bulk carriers is when unladed without ballast, the prop is half out of the water, check the stern view pic on the page above.
The Pasha was just churning the water getting blown onto the shore without ballast. Makes it worse as they can't unload anything to make it any lighter to refloat it, just going to have to drag it off.
Ahhh thanks for pointing that out!! I had them sent to me by a few people saying they were the pasha bulker, but that explains the file names of the pics!!
Landy110
15th June 2007, 10:16 PM
Hate to tell you but I saw those pics months ago, I was sent them after the cyclones off WA. She may or may not be the Pasha but the pics were taken long before Newcastle. And yes she was too light on ballast when she went aground, these pics are obviousely a loaded vessel.
Steve
UncleHo
15th June 2007, 10:47 PM
G'day Folks :)
Good pics of the Selkirk Settler, I remember watching an Ampol Tanker (I think) trying to enter Sydney Harbour in a similar storm in the late 60's, was watching from North Head, and she was taking green water back to the bridge:eek: they took her out to sea and brought her back in at full speed, ever seen a 40,000 ton loaded tanker "Surf" there were 4 tugs waiting inside the heads to pass lines to her to keep her from broaching, took about an hour to get her in far enough to slow and settle down, we had caught the last ferry to Manly that afternoon, "North Steyne" and had 3 ft of green water washing through the lower passenger deck, :D they were great ferries in those days:) had about 25 photos of that tanker but they and others got lost in a move in the mid 70's, also in that lot was some pics of Melbourne after Voyager sinking:(
cheers
WOLLAPIT85
15th June 2007, 11:10 PM
Where's MarkyMark..heading for the Flemmish Cap no doubt.
hiline
16th June 2007, 12:48 AM
Where's MarkyMark..heading for the Flemmish Cap no doubt.
they do say thats where the fish are ;)
Pedro_The_Swift
16th June 2007, 08:15 AM
G'day Folks :)
Good pics of the Selkirk Settler, I remember watching an Ampol Tanker (I think) trying to enter Sydney Harbour in a similar storm in the late 60's, was watching from North Head, and she was taking green water bach to the bridge:eek: they took her out to sea and brought her back in at full speed, ever seen a 40,000 ton loaded tanker "Surf" there were 4 tugs waiting inside the heads to pass lines to her to keep her from broaching, took about an hour to get her in far enough to slow and settle down, we had caught the last ferry to Manly that afternoon, "North Steyne" and had 3 ft of green water washing through the lower passenger deck, :D they were great ferries in those days:) had about 25 photos of that tanker but they and others got lost in a move in the mid 70's, also in that lot was some pics of Melbourne after Voyager sinking:(
cheers
I wonder whatever happened to her?
didnt south steyne end up in Tassie?
Pedro_The_Swift
16th June 2007, 10:29 AM
The real deal,,
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/06/272.jpg
Relay
16th June 2007, 11:03 AM
I feel small...
cartm58
16th June 2007, 11:13 AM
the internet so much information so many pranksters so many gulliable people
some of my favourites are
Israeli spy satellite shooting last minute of the space shuttle and showing it blowing up over texas
the guy standing on the twin towers observation deck with the Jet just about to crash into the building
Rovernaut
16th June 2007, 11:20 AM
The real deal,,
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/06/272.jpg
Relax it's just an army landing craft they just do that, pull up on a beach.:D
incisor
16th June 2007, 11:22 AM
bloody hell, she is not very old by the looks of that hull....
dobbo
16th June 2007, 11:26 AM
bloody hell, she is not very old by the looks of that hull....
1 year old
You just don't appreciate what an enormous F up this is until you see it in real life and appreciate the sheer size of the thing and how far up the beach it is.
Bushie
16th June 2007, 12:20 PM
That'd be one captain that will find it very hard to get another ship I would think.
Martyn
mcrover
16th June 2007, 12:40 PM
Not a good career move I would recon.
Those were good pics regardless of what the ship was, I couldnt imagine being comfortable with watching the front of the ship I was on going under the waves like that.
Is that pic of the Pasha real, it looks bigger than I expected, I know it's big but that is huge in comparison than what you see on the news.
dobbo
16th June 2007, 12:54 PM
That'd be one captain that will find it very hard to get another ship I would think.
Martyn
As a captain anyway, probably could as "the boy in the barrel".
Timmo
16th June 2007, 12:55 PM
Great pics....i'm up for a run in that tugboat incisor!
wrex
1st September 2007, 01:40 PM
Great pictures... it certainly makes me feel sea sick just looking at them :(
I wonder how the did it in the old days, no engines, radars or warning systems :confused:
barryj
1st September 2007, 01:50 PM
bloody hell, she is not very old by the looks of that hull....
Maybe it's just the part of the hull that 'does not see the light of day' that looks new :eek:.
shorty943
2nd September 2007, 04:55 PM
Great pics....i'm up for a run in that tugboat incisor!
Count me in to Inc, just find a nice deep low and steam straight for it.:twisted: Or maybe we could take old Diamantina out, she is still fully fueled and ready to raise steam. Even better, an old Corvette like Castlemain or Rockhampton, they were supposed to roll in a mild ripple.:twisted: See who chums up.:twisted: And I just happen to have all the relavent steam tickets for those old girls.
I remember my first cyclone at sea as a 16 year old kid. that was a good storm.:( Solid green rollers coming over the forward end of the flight deck of Melbourne.
Those big bulker's, you can stand on the bridge and feel the deck going to one side, and watch the forward end rolling to the other side. It's a weird sensation.:(
And they wonder why the front falls off all the time.:angel:
Hymie
2nd September 2007, 05:13 PM
Corvette like Castlemain or Rockhampton, they were supposed to roll in a mild ripple.:twisted: See who chums up.:twisted: And I just happen to have all the relavent steam tickets for those old girls.
Castlemaine is tied up at Willianstown isn't She.
I went on a tour of her with a WW2 Servicman who had served on a similar ship. My mrs wanted to know what the food on board was like.
"Oh we got 6 meals a day", he said,
"REALLY!!!" said Mrs Hymie,
"Yep, 3 down, 3 up", he said.
:)
shorty943
2nd September 2007, 05:26 PM
That's her. She was still a training ship in my recruit days. The old crews loved them and hated them at the same time.
Slow, cramped, underpowered, under gunned, overworked, the Land Rovers of the sea, the corvette.
Pedro_The_Swift
2nd September 2007, 07:01 PM
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
This the one?:D
shorty943
2nd September 2007, 07:11 PM
Pretty little ships built back then weren't they?
A bit under 1,000 ton, about a hundred or so feet long, one triple expansion 2,200 Hp reciprocating engine. Poor little buggers couldn't keep up with a tramp steamer:( but, that didn't stop "head office" from requiring an extra effort for this job chaps. Tough little ships, damn tough men crewed them.
Tiny compared to something like Pasher Bulker, with a bigger crew
Edit.
650 ton, 189 or so feet long. A couple of links,
http://www.diggerhistory3.info/ran/page/04-corvettes.htm Take note of the photo titled Corvettes were not designed for crew comfort, to see their way of sea keeping. Rock and Roll Baby.
http://www.navy.gov.au/spc/history/ships/castlemaine.html
I notice the experts have renamed them Minesweepers.
Minesweeping? In a steel ship?
With magnetic triggered mines abounding?
Yeah right, Canberra office johnny, YOU GO FIRST.
isuzurover
12th September 2010, 06:31 PM
...
I notice the experts have renamed them Minesweepers.
...
You may want to check your facts?
Originally classified as minesweepers, but widely referred to as corvettes, the Bathurst class vessels fulfilled a broad anti-submarine, anti-mine, and convoy escort role.
Ausfree
12th September 2010, 06:48 PM
Not being a member of this Forum at that time, I haven't seen those original photo's before, but living in the Newcastle area I did see the Pasha Bulka standed on Nobbies Beach. It certainly was a big ship when you were up close.!!!:o
ramblingboy42
12th September 2010, 07:18 PM
the Diamentina has been sitting pernanently in dry dock in Brisbanes Maritime Museum for for perhaps 25 years or more, is completely defuelled, the boilers are completely inoperable, from what I've been told by some people I know who served on her, the boilers may have been initially "preserved" but not for long, so are useless. The engine(s) havent turned for 30 years, she was winched into position. There have been a number of interest groups over the years who wanted to try to refloat her but the logistics of this are just far too big for anybody to attempt now.
one_iota
12th September 2010, 08:24 PM
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/09/1305.jpg
Hymie
12th September 2010, 08:52 PM
http://home.vicnet.net.au/%7Emildura/images/HMAS_Castlemaine.jpg
This the one?:D
Aye, that be the one.
DeeJay
12th September 2010, 09:53 PM
Great pictures... it certainly makes me feel sea sick just looking at them :(
I wonder how the did it in the old days, no engines, radars or warning systems :confused:
Easy, they drowned...
Brian
13th September 2010, 09:03 AM
I wonder whatever happened to her?
didnt south steyne end up in Tassie?
Hey Pedro, last time I heard of her was she is moored in Darling Harbour, Sydney.
Did many trips to Manly on her when she was in service and several runs to Broken Bay and back on a Sunday afternoon. Great fun in wild weather.
Also had a birthday party on her when she was moored in Newcastle, back in 1994.
A great ship, sad to see her taken out of service.
Cheers
350RRC
13th September 2010, 08:48 PM
the Diamentina has been sitting pernanently in dry dock in Brisbanes Maritime Museum for for perhaps 25 years or more
Pretty sure a couple of guys that I know served on her as 'cooks'. Heard all sorts of stories.
In Vietnam conflict?
DL
Rayngie
14th September 2010, 02:02 PM
South Steyne is still in Darling Harbour....it's a restaurant
Ray
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