110 or 130

[ClaudeKleynhans]

Can someone give me a comparison between the defender 110 and 130 off road capabilities.

[mcrover]

Not that the 110 is lacking but the main difference seems to be cargo area, most situations where the rear over hang could be a problem might limit the 130 but from my limited experience with the 2, the 130 was the better for towing and went everywhere that I had gone in the 110.

[JDNSW]

The only real difference is the departure and breakover angles and the larger turning circle and maximum loaded mass of the 130, so although I have no real experience of the 130, I expect that in practice there is little difference - it is very hard to find the limits of the offroad capabilities of the 110.

John

[mcrover]

Thats pretty much what I mean, in normal situations you would be hard pressed to reach the limits of either.

your probably better off talking to Hiline as he has a 130 and uses it like it was meant to be used and seems very happy with it, or Nat 130 as they have one as well.

I dont think a 130 would be much good as a comp rig but for touring and stuff they are great.

[justinc]

As John said, the ramp over angle is a bit less in a 130, in fact 1 got hung up on one of our trips....In front of a cruiser!!!!:o:o
But, they follow us everywhere we go in the Rangie, no other issues. In fact there are some places they are better, the wheelbase can give them more 'reach' when climbing up some rocky stuff.
They(110's and 130's) are both fantastic offroaders, the only way to truly decide is to get one of each!!!:):D:D


JC

[130man]

Hi Claude, you will find that the 130 is less manouevreable than the 110 but it may not make much difference depending on where you drive.Tight tracks and getting between trees can be harder but desert crossings etc. are fine.In fact the 130 sometimes out performs the 110 in sand as the front axle is getting out of soft stuff about the time the rear is going in.Load capacity is marvellous.A friend crossed the Simpson in his 130 carrying all the extra petrol required for the two V8 Rovers with him and was the only vehicle to avoid bogging.I haven't been inconvenienced by the longer wheel base but I am not into extreme driving either.Round town the bigger turning circle can be a pain as it takes the odd extra turn to use supermarket spaces and reverse parking requires a longer space to park in.Cheers, 130man.

go to park in supermarket spaces

[abaddonxi]

I think the seat set up in the 130 is different to that of the 110 and might be a little tight if you wanted adults to sit in the back often.

The back seat of mine is full of kiddie seats so not much space there. It's great if you've got lots of long thin things to store, but I find there's a bit of a shortage of storage space in the cab. That's made up for by the extra space in the back Easier, I guess, if you have a canopy.

Cheers
Simon

[Blknight.aus]

theyre close...

Id take the 110 offroad over the 130.

Id take the 130 for carting stuff around in the city or long distance.

But I prefere the 110 for towing with...

biggest difference is the ramp over, the departure and the annoying tendancy of me forgetting the amount of cut in the 130 has.

[p38arover]

the annoying tendancy of me forgetting the amount of cut in the 130 has.

What's that mean, Dave?

Ron

[SSmith]

What's that mean, Dave?

Ron

turning round tight corners, the rear wheels come closer to the curb, tree etc than the front wheels.... the longer the wheel base the more the cut in

ever seen a truckie take out a set of traffic lights?

[Blknight.aus]

thats the one...

having driven 110's for so long and as the 130's feel the same up the front things that Id doge around leaving the mearest of hiars between rear sidewalls and tyre stake wind up leaving me with flats

or panel damage.

or smacks on the heads from the passangers who just bumped their noggins...

[Ben_R]

theyre close...

Id take the 110 offroad over the 130.

Id take the 130 for carting stuff around in the city or long distance.

But I prefere the 110 for towing with...

biggest difference is the ramp over, the departure and the annoying tendancy of me forgetting the amount of cut in the 130 has.


Hi,

130s have a difficult habit of the rear wheels not following the front wheels tracks very closely. Sometimes it can be an issue, but mostly you just need to be extra aware of where your rear wheels are going to travel. You notice the extra wheel base, amazing performance on gravel roads. Very, very stable when hitting soft or rough patches, the car never gives away any indication that it wants to squirm or get tail happy. Same applies to towing. My experience towing a boat is the 130's ability to pull it all into line if the boat wants to sway or anything like that. Great configuration, I'd get another 130 again over the 110. I travelled around Aus with my wife in a 130 and had so much room it was not funny. The ultimate 2 up tourer, or maybe with little kids too.

[Defender=1st]

If i ever sell my 110 i think i would probably go for a 130 Td5 with a canvas back..DREAM VEHICLE !!

[George130]

130's a great for towing. They will go anywhere the rest of the Landy family will go. On tight tracks you may have to do a 3 point turn or rub the trees a little. You get used to it very quick.

[hiline]

i've never had a problem chasing or following any other landy

somethigs get a little tight but you do get used to driving different lines and angles ;)

[mcrover]

theyre close...

Id take the 110 offroad over the 130.

Id take the 130 for carting stuff around in the city or long distance.

But I prefere the 110 for towing with...

biggest difference is the ramp over, the departure and the annoying tendancy of me forgetting the amount of cut in the 130 has.

Obviously you havnt towed a 3 tonne caravan with both to see the difference, the 130 is so much more stable than a 110, both will pull it no probs but when you get a semi go past or a side wind in the 110 you feel like its going to take you off the road where the 130 hardly moves.

Off road on narrow tracks or where your ramp over will be an issue e.g. crossing fallen trees or on rocks the 130 can be a little tight but other than that they do everything a 110 will do with more space to do it.

[Blknight.aus]

not a 3 ton trailer but Ive used both to tow 4 ton trailers...

with the extra weight I have in big red shes got no dramas getting trailers under control...

you try backing an articulated trailer or one with a short ass draw bar to get max trailer bed length with a 130....

when you have to start pulling jack knife manouvers to get the trailer round with a 110 you aint got a hope with a 130, however out in the open the 130 aint bad with any trailer on.

[mcrover]

I never had a problem

[Merv]

One issue I have seen with a 130 is they are more vunerable to tyre stakes then vehicles with a shorter wheelbase.

We were following some old woodlines tracks out towards Kalgoorlie and of the 6 vehicles in the group there was a number of staked tyres, the vehicle with the most was the 130, even though he was running the same tyres (BFG A/T's) as a couple of the other vehicles. The interesting bit was the number of front tyres he staked. We put it down to taking a slightly wider line then others before turning into the corners

[p38arover]

Ahh - if he'd said turning circle I'd have got it in one. :)

Ron