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Disco123
30th June 2007, 02:41 PM
Just need to add a drag chain to my recovery kit - what length and size chain do people use? Also, any suggestions for how to carry it e.g. part cut out 5 litre oil container?

For those in SA , I assume Noble's would be the best place to get this?

kaa45
30th June 2007, 02:50 PM
5m x 8mm with end hooks. Keep it in anything so it wont tangle with other gear. :)

Blknight.aus
30th June 2007, 04:22 PM
preferabley keep it in something that you can hose out with the chain still in it... The tradie 5kg buckets of spak filler and plaster board adhesive ,after attacking with the 13mm drill, are great as not only will 10m of 8mm grade 70 (5t rate) anodized chain fit in them so will a pair of 4.5t shackles, a small roll of fencing wire and a pair of pliers. A note on the end connectors, go to a rigging supply place and get the ones with a positive lock on them so that if the chain goes slack mid recovery they cant come off.

If you get the standard hooks, drill a 3mm hole in the very tip where it wont effect strenght and then thread a bit of fencing wire through this to mouse the hook onto the chain. Having one come off and flick into the recoveries radiator is not a pleasant feeling.

rangieman
30th June 2007, 04:29 PM
I keep mine in a heshen (spelling) bag :D
also i got a loop for one end mine , it was a chain from a dog and chain (truck)

Defender=1st
30th June 2007, 06:10 PM
6m x 6mm i keep it in a Plastic tool box

4bee
30th June 2007, 07:04 PM
2 x Coles/Woolies green bags, one inside the other for strength, makes good storage without being too rigid.

spudboy
30th June 2007, 07:15 PM
I got some proper truckies chain from Paramount-Browns out Wingfield way. They sell it by the metre, and they have all the rated hooks, pins, etc to fit. I've got 2 sorts. One is goldy galvanised and the other is a flat black finish. Don't know why they are different but someone here probably will. The black chain feels lighter than the goldy one but has the same rating I think.

HTH
David

spudboy
30th June 2007, 07:25 PM
Found their site:
http://www.paramountbrowns.com.au/d/p/paramountbrowns/used_list.asp

Nobles might be better - I just haven't heard of them. Paramount are not chain/lifting specialists. They sell surplus industrial stuff (lathes, milling machines, steel, tools etc).

4bee
30th June 2007, 08:05 PM
David, Nobles have been in business since 1911 specialising in this stuff.


http://www.nobles.com.au/about.asp?area=1

Disco123
1st July 2007, 12:44 PM
Thanks for your responses. I'll check out Paramount Browns - I've heard it's a good place to browse for an hour or two.

defender90
1st July 2007, 02:22 PM
i've got mine in a ammo box. they would have to be the best free storage boxes you can get. just need to know the right people:twisted:

spudboy
1st July 2007, 02:24 PM
Thanks for your responses. I'll check out Paramount Browns - I've heard it's a good place to browse for an hour or two.

Make sure you take your Missus with you or else you will come home wth all sorts of stuff you didn't expect to. She will make you put most of it back on the shelves.

barney
1st July 2007, 05:14 PM
they fit well in a small ammo box, and you can fit a pair of gloves in there or a couple of D shackels with it.
gets heavy, but is easy to pack and cart around

Blknight.aus
1st July 2007, 07:54 PM
i've got mine in a ammo box. they would have to be the best free storage boxes you can get. just need to know the right people:twisted:

how many? shippings a bit of a pain but well they aint heavy empty, just bulky.

barney
1st July 2007, 08:32 PM
the little ones are easily attainable at disposal stores for about $10.
they are still reasonable water tight, dimensions are roughly 75mm wide by 150-200mm high by 300mm long. they will fit in the box under your defender seat.
of course if you aren't driving a defender, your driving a pretender. (hey i like that!)

easo
1st July 2007, 09:22 PM
All my chains are in a .50cal liner, One 8-10m, one 4m and two lighter 2.5m. The later are good for draging logs and stuff when you dont want to stuff about shorting the big sucker.

sclarke
5th July 2007, 07:01 PM
preferabley keep it in something that you can hose out with the chain still in it... The tradie 5kg buckets of spak filler and plaster board adhesive ,after attacking with the 13mm drill, are great as not only will 10m of 8mm grade 70 (5t rate) anodized chain fit in them so will a pair of 4.5t shackles, a small roll of fencing wire and a pair of pliers. A note on the end connectors, go to a rigging supply place and get the ones with a positive lock on them so that if the chain goes slack mid recovery they cant come off.

If you get the standard hooks, drill a 3mm hole in the very tip where it wont effect strenght and then thread a bit of fencing wire through this to mouse the hook onto the chain. Having one come off and flick into the recoveries radiator is not a pleasant feeling.

Any pix with a better description, i'm blonde tonight

Blknight.aus
5th July 2007, 07:56 PM
of what mate? the positive locking hooks or the 3mm hole trick?

in either case its no but I will arrange it if you pester me after the bushmasters course.

blitz
5th July 2007, 09:22 PM
hmmm I gave all mine away I found them to be too heavy bulky and generally a pain in the proverbial. Oh and the only time I ever used them was with a 10 tonne cab over Bedford to pull another truck out of the mud. now all I use is snatchem straps or 30mtr of 19mm rope

I must be missing something??

Blythe

Blknight.aus
5th July 2007, 09:37 PM
I use a chain when I tow, double it up from the towed vehicle and attach the strap to that so that the chain drags before the line and you dont have any sharp bits near the strap....

I also carry the chain and dogs when ive got the trailer (or think I'll need them) as 2 chains with a pair of dogs makes a handy little winching setup.

and I carry them cause I tow lots, and you dont get any decent tiedown gear when you hire a trailer anymore.

chosen
5th July 2007, 10:13 PM
If I was gonna get some quality chain for 4x4 recovery (or any other recovery/4x4 gear) in SA I first go to see Nimbus Engineering (http://www.nimbus.net.au/).

Michael is the man, not only are their prices reasonable but Michael's knowledge is unbelievable and he is always happy to give advice - best products (tested too) and he is a Land/Range Rover man :D

Nimbus engineering is in Wingfield about 6 minutes from Paramount Browns, call first. (PS Alfie Brown is a good fella but be aware that if the item is a bulk/special sale it probably wont have a guarantee).

chosen