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County3.9
2nd July 2007, 08:51 PM
Has anyone got any advice on roll bar or cages in a 110? Cost , best set-up (external/ internal), dos and dont's etc.
Michael2
2nd July 2007, 09:08 PM
Homemade or competition grade?
County3.9
2nd July 2007, 09:17 PM
Just for family protection. Saw a defender roll over and didn't like what I saw!
modman
2nd July 2007, 09:20 PM
google safety devices UK and have a look, many detailed pics of various types, eg nas spec, truck cab, full internal, full external, external cab internal load space, motorsport, the list goes on.
i've allways liked the look of the nas spec cages on 90's.
swaggi (chris) on the lrocv site has an army/perentie?? roll cage/bars for sale to suit a soft top defender. maybe the remlr guys could post pics of military bars and cages??
david
just caught the last post, if its for family protection make it padded or external, take it from an ambo you DON'T want heads hitting bars or any metal in a rollover or any collision.
Wazza
2nd July 2007, 09:21 PM
I have huge roll bars in mine as it is a soft top.
I can take pics tomorrow for you if you like just let me know what you want,
cheers
Wazza
County3.9
2nd July 2007, 09:25 PM
Pics would be great. Thanks for the tips modman:)
defenderkev
3rd July 2007, 07:50 AM
Watching this thread closely as a cage is next on the list for me....
Wazza i would be very keen on seeing the mounting points.
Kev
EchiDna
3rd July 2007, 08:13 AM
I wrote a similar thread about a year ago now, looking primarily for an inside/ouside cage like those made by safety devices... some photos off the web in my gallery here:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/07/601.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/app/showphoto.php/photo/580)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/07/602.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/app/showphoto.php/photo/581)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/07/603.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/app/showphoto.php/photo/582)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/07/604.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/app/showphoto.php/photo/583)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/07/605.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/app/showphoto.php/photo/585)
1103.9TDI
3rd July 2007, 08:58 AM
I thought maybe something, read: relatively inexpensive and simple like the Series 3 here:http://www.aulro.com/afvb/showthread.php't=39632
I know, I know:D, it won't stand up to a massive rollover, but really, what will?. It should offer some protection, maybe enough for the occupants to survive, and can be strengthened with internal work. Also takes the wieght off the gutters, if you carry on the roof.
modman
3rd July 2007, 09:18 AM
cross bars to form a triangle for internal hoops are necessary for roll over protection. without internal triangulation the cage is just bling or a 'sports bar'. very simple roll cage theory.
look on outerlimits at the county duel cab just built by cheezy, very nice cage with roof sliders as well (let alone the ls7 4l80e coil-overs atlas, but pootrol diffs. TOO MUCH MONEY
DAVID
xsi
3rd July 2007, 12:02 PM
For an external cage, whats the law say regarding protruding beyond the body?
BTW,
Not roll cages, but in the UK mags you see advertised square cross section bars which are mounted to the sides of the defender body - really handy when you lean into that tree:o or deep rut.
Dave
defenderkev
3rd July 2007, 12:06 PM
I searched through the old threads and the most common thing talked about was mounting the cage...Design and Fabrication is no problem its the mounting that has me worried...Plated to to the floor or mounted somehow back to the chassis...
EchiDna
3rd July 2007, 12:34 PM
I searched through the old threads and the most common thing talked about was mounting the cage...Design and Fabrication is no problem its the mounting that has me worried...Plated to to the floor or mounted somehow back to the chassis...
take a look on the safety devices webpage (link below)... you can see the through body mounts which tie back to the chassis. there are many designs - for me I intend at some stage to go for an inside/outside cage with a removable cross brace for onroad use.
http://www.safetydevices.com/images/products/4x4/2005%20dealer%20guide-Defender110.pdf
Wazza
5th July 2007, 10:14 AM
some pics of my cage
sorry for the delay
sclarke
5th July 2007, 05:29 PM
That is nice....... I want one.....
Wazza
5th July 2007, 07:28 PM
Thanks
I like it.
The wife wants me to sell it and buy a hard top version.
SOOO you never know it might be on the market soon:mad::mad:
Cheers
Wazza
rar110
5th July 2007, 08:00 PM
Thanks
I like it.
The wife wants me to sell it and buy a hard top version.
SOOO you never know it might be on the market soon:mad::mad:
Cheers
Wazza
NO WAY. That would be great for a drive up to TM, O'Reillys, Binna Burra.
County3.9
5th July 2007, 08:24 PM
Wazza, that's a great looking landy.
Tell us how you did it. Eg did you pay someone, if so how much. Problems, what would you do different? Can you fit the roof back on or is it a thing of the past?
Thanks for posting the photos:)
Wazza
5th July 2007, 08:35 PM
custom off road in Brisbane did the work
There is a full exo skeletons that goes on the outside of the soft top that has a boat rack on it as well so thats the only real roof rack that goes on.
(sorry no pictures of that and it takes 3 hours to get back on so no i am not going to do it just yet)
It has slightly higher head room in that a standard hard top which is good .
I dont think i would change it if i had to do another one except maybe a bar from the windscreen to the main bar as there is nothing for the passenger to hold onto
Blknight.aus
5th July 2007, 08:50 PM
I searched through the old threads and the most common thing talked about was mounting the cage...Design and Fabrication is no problem its the mounting that has me worried...Plated to to the floor or mounted somehow back to the chassis...
I would be plating to the body for the simple reason that if the chassis bends it will bend the frame and that could be bad. If you build the roll cage into the body work and substantially mount it up if the chassis bends the cage will still be intact relevant to the body.
As all the big nasty bits are attached to the chassis Id rather have the chassis seperate away from the cab/cage than have them still attached when something was going west
The perentine ones only mount up to the bodywork (which is re-enforced) and they can wistand a hell of a pounding.
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