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Franz
5th July 2007, 08:30 AM
G'day All,
I need to extend my brake lines both F&R to cope with the new springs :eek: that I put in recently.
Does anyone know where I can get some locally (in Australia - Melbourne) or where the best source would be overseas? :confused:
Thanks for your help.
Cheers,
p38arover
5th July 2007, 08:42 AM
Brake klines have to be made by an approved manufacturer - I think.
What about those blokes who make braided lines for motor bikes? They advertise in the bike mags.
Do Pirtek or EnZed do brake lines?
Ron
Turtle61
5th July 2007, 08:57 AM
There was a thread on braided lines not too long ago - do a search.
Here is one thread:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/showthread.php't=34200&highlight=braided
--Irek
sniegy
5th July 2007, 01:52 PM
Hi Franz,:p
Any brake place will be able to make up a set for you, it just depends if u want to go fancy with braided lines or not.
Personally i dont see the need for braided lines but thats me.
The only problem i may see is they may want a sample of the ends..
Let me know if i can help. ;)
stuart
5th July 2007, 02:01 PM
You will also need the ones for te ABS lines...
G'day All,
I need to extend my brake lines both F&R to cope with the new springs :eek: that I put in recently.
Does anyone know where I can get some locally (in Australia - Melbourne) or where the best source would be overseas? :confused:
Thanks for your help.
Cheers,
twitchy
5th July 2007, 02:03 PM
G'day All,
I need to extend my brake lines both F&R to cope with the new springs :eek: that I put in recently.
Does anyone know where I can get some locally (in Australia - Melbourne) or where the best source would be overseas? :confused:
Thanks for your help.
Cheers,
PIRTEK
What bloody size springs did ya put in??????????
Franz
5th July 2007, 09:21 PM
PIRTEK
What bloody size springs did ya put in??????????
430mm free length that give me a 550mm hub to guard. Just a smidgeon longer than I wanted but given time they will compress and that's when the airbags will come into their own. At the moment the air bags do nothing without a major load on board - say 175kg on top the the standard vehicle with a full tank.
Franz
5th July 2007, 09:25 PM
You will also need the ones for te ABS lines...
Stuart,
I had considered this but think I may not have to. The ABS lines have a quick disconnect and when I want to drop my suspension, I can disconnect them to give me more downward travel - not so with the brake lines.
I think that the ABS and brake lines will cope with most of my off road jaunts but to be safe I want to extend the brake lines - no brakes in the back could become unpleasant, whereas I can get by without ABS in a failure situation (I think).
Thanks for the tip though.
Franz
5th July 2007, 09:28 PM
G'day All,
I need to extend my brake lines both F&R to cope with the new springs :eek: that I put in recently.
Does anyone know where I can get some locally (in Australia - Melbourne) or where the best source would be overseas? :confused:
Thanks for your help.
Cheers,
Thanks for the feedback folks.
Anybody have any experience with the Expedition Exchange brake lines - USD70 per end?
tombraider
5th July 2007, 10:21 PM
Mate
Have you got "ABS" Auto Brake Service... In Melb?
They do custom ptfe brake lines..
Cheers
Thanks for the feedback folks.
Anybody have any experience with the Expedition Exchange brake lines - USD70 per end?
Franz
5th July 2007, 10:26 PM
Mate
Have you got "ABS" Auto Brake Service... In Melb?
They do custom ptfe brake lines..
Cheers
Mike,
We do, I'll give them a try 2 moro.
Cheers,
stuart
6th July 2007, 01:07 PM
Yep there are all good...had some in from them the other week...still have some rear lines i think...
Stuart
Thanks for the feedback folks.
Anybody have any experience with the Expedition Exchange brake lines - USD70 per end?
HAK
6th July 2007, 04:04 PM
430mm free length that give me a 550mm hub to guard. Just a smidgeon longer than I wanted but given time they will compress and that's when the airbags will come into their own. At the moment the air bags do nothing without a major load on board - say 175kg on top the the standard vehicle with a full tank.
how many inchs is that from standard :eek:
Franz
6th July 2007, 05:48 PM
how many inchs is that from standard :eek:
Not good with inches - but I think around 2"+
HAK
6th July 2007, 05:54 PM
Not good with inches - but I think around 2"+
I’m a novas so excuse the ignorance but why do you need extended break lines for 2" lift
Franz
7th July 2007, 05:00 PM
I’m a novas so excuse the ignorance but why do you need extended break lines for 2" lift
You are absolutely right.
Actually, my lift is closer t 4" - I used to have around 2" with OME suspension, didn't like it and added 35mm ProComp spacers, didn't like that after a while and had springs custom made giving me a 4" lift.
HAK
7th July 2007, 08:24 PM
G’day Frans
What’s it like handling wise on the D2 with a 4-inch lift road wise, has your D2got ace
I ask the questions, as I’m also interested in a larger lift other then 2 inches, what brand springs and shock have you got, I was advised by LR Automotive that 3 ½ is the biggest you can go before other things need to be changed
I called Iron man the other day to see what they have, they advised that they only do a 40mm lift on a Disco as Disco are to unstable to go any higher but mmmmmm I find my disco to the best handling 4x4 I’ve driven and I have driven a few on road
In NSW we have a company called All springs that manufacture any spring at any rate I have had them on performance cars and worked a treat unfortunitly I dont know to much on the dynamics of 4X4 springs to give them info on what I need progressive spring or non pregresive and stiffness so at this stage LRA is probibly going to be the supplier
Any feed back would be appreciated :)
Franz
8th July 2007, 09:47 AM
G’day Frans
What’s it like handling wise on the D2 with a 4-inch lift road wise, has your D2got ace
I ask the questions, as I’m also interested in a larger lift other then 2 inches, what brand springs and shock have you got, I was advised by LR Automotive that 3 ½ is the biggest you can go before other things need to be changed
I called Iron man the other day to see what they have, they advised that they only do a 40mm lift on a Disco as Disco are to unstable to go any higher but mmmmmm I find my disco to the best handling 4x4 I’ve driven and I have driven a few on road
In NSW we have a company called All springs that manufacture any spring at any rate I have had them on performance cars and worked a treat unfortunitly I dont know to much on the dynamics of 4X4 springs to give them info on what I need progressive spring or non pregresive and stiffness so at this stage LRA is probibly going to be the supplier
Any feed back would be appreciated :)
G'day Rovernit,
The route I am going has been covered by others so I am not pioneering with mine. I do not have ACE on my vehicle although a friend who has followed this route does in his.
One of the things that I will have to do at some stage is put in longer shocks as the OME shocks I have are for a two inch lift and are now topping out. My mate has put Patrol shocks in his but this requires some mods that I am not prepared to make at this time. I will be investigating Bilsteins but need to get my head around the length specifications of the available options.
Essentially, I approached this from a ride height perspective. I use to have OME 762 (300-340lb Progressive springs) with ProComp 35mm spacers but over time these sagged and I wanted to go back to a softer ride and more suspension articulation. I measured the compressed length of the 762's and made a decision to opt for 280lb linear springs. I then took my 762's to a spring maker and told him what compressed length I wanted the new springs to be and what the compressed length of the old springs was and he did the rest.
As I understand it, progressive springs offer more resistance as they get more load whereas linear springs will keep on compressing as you add more load. It should be said that my hub to guard of 550mm is with the vehicle unladen - once I start putiing my recovery gear, chuckwagon, rear seats and a new steel bar on the back, the ride height will drop. (With the Chuckwagen and recovery gear in the vehicle my additional laod is around 180kg) To counteract this, I have also installed a set of airbags within the springs so that when fully loaded I can just pump up the airbags and get back to an acceptable ride height.
Now, I have not tested the setup off road yet so it too early to make any comments other than noticing an improved ride on road and the need to put longer springs in the front to compensate (but that was on the cards anyway) One of the pitfalls of raised suspension is that it changes the drive shaft angles which can produce unwanted vibrations and hasten drive shaft failure. The front drive shaft on the D2 is suspect anyway and should have greasable joints so that'll be on the cards when the front shaft fails.
There is a price to be paid for increased ride height but it's worth it when as so many bullbars are dozer blades and too many people have ripped off their rear bumpers. The two things that are important to me off road are bigger tyres (32") and a decent lift.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
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