Defender TD5 cruise control

[browny]

Hi,

Do you want a cruise control for your TD5 Defender for nearly nothing (some cable and some switches)? Activate the in build one in the ECU. :D Have a look under:
http://www.blacklandy.de/wbb2/thread.php'threadid=19514

It only works with ECUs from MY 2002 and younger!!!


Regards browny

[DEFENDERZOOK]

thats very interesting info.......

has anyone tried this before........

[Captain_Rightfoot]

thats very interesting info.......

has anyone tried this before........
I'm not aware that anyone has used that site, but plenty of people are using the on-board cruise. I am one, but I couldn't find the wiring diagram so bought the kit to do it :(

[spudboy]

Interesting! The 2 switches I get, but what is the diagram saying about pins 10/11 and 15/17. Is that the on or off switch, or are these pins not connected at all?

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/08/424.jpg
With this version no de-energising and programming work are necessary

[Quarks]

I'd guess that's where they are wired up to the connector plug - so the line from 10 joins 15 (the german says something about being clamped), with the set switch between pins (10,15) & 11, and the resume across (10,15) & 17.

Don't know why the rpm pin (19) is shaded on the connector diagram. :confused:

But that's running on some unreliable german, and no understanding whatsoever of the ECU, so don't blame me if I'm wrong!:wasntme:

If it works, I might try it myself.

[Cameron_Def]

Is this the plug under the seat or ??

[DEFENDERZOOK]

yes...its the plug on the ecu........


does anyone understand enough german to tell me where zundplus klemme 15 is........?

or where it goes to.....?

[browny]

ok ok, I will translate it for you:

The plug on top is the black plug on the ECU under the seat.

The pins on the ECU will be connected the following way:
Pin 10 - ignition +12V
Pin 11 - switch 1 (set function)
Pin 15 - ignition +12V
Pin 17 - switch 2 (resume function)

Pin 19 - is only mentioned, that you can connect here the available TD5 tachometer, not used for the cruise control

So the cruise control works by supplying ignition +12V to pin 10/15 permanently and the functions are activated by supplying the same temporary to pin 11 or 17.

For getting the ignition switched +12V (Zuendplus Klemme 15), if I remember correctly, when I had last time my dash off, use the green/white cable at the temperature or fuel gauge in the dash. Put two switches on the dash and run a long cable to the ECU.

More clear now? It works on my TD5 :D but no guarantee :wasntme:


browny

[Lionel]

ok ok, I will translate it for you:

The plug on top is the black plug on the ECU under the seat.

The pins on the ECU will be connected the following way:
Pin 10 - ignition +12V
Pin 11 - switch 1 (set function)
Pin 15 - ignition +12V
Pin 17 - switch 2 (resume function)

Pin 19 - is only mentioned, that you can connect here the available TD5 tachometer, not used for the cruise control

So the cruise control works by supplying ignition +12V to pin 10/15 permanently and the functions are activated by supplying the same temporary to pin 11 or 17.

For getting the ignition switched +12V (Zuendplus Klemme 15), if I remember correctly, when I had last time my dash off, use the green/white cable at the temperature or fuel gauge in the dash. Put two switches on the dash and run a long cable to the ECU.

More clear now? It works on my TD5 :D but no guarantee :wasntme:


browny

I assume the cruise control will disconnect when brake or clutch pedals are depressed with this set-up?

Very necessary for safety reasons!

Cheers,

Lionel

[Captain_Rightfoot]

The kit that I had installed had a master on/off switch too?

[Shuffle]

Is any cruise control kit suitable for these connections, or is there something that suits the 'Fender better than others ?

[Cameron_Def]

ok ok, I will translate it for you:

The plug on top is the black plug on the ECU under the seat.

The pins on the ECU will be connected the following way:
Pin 10 - ignition +12V
Pin 11 - switch 1 (set function)
Pin 15 - ignition +12V
Pin 17 - switch 2 (resume function)

Pin 19 - is only mentioned, that you can connect here the available TD5 tachometer, not used for the cruise control

So the cruise control works by supplying ignition +12V to pin 10/15 permanently and the functions are activated by supplying the same temporary to pin 11 or 17.

For getting the ignition switched +12V (Zuendplus Klemme 15), if I remember correctly, when I had last time my dash off, use the green/white cable at the temperature or fuel gauge in the dash. Put two switches on the dash and run a long cable to the ECU.

More clear now? It works on my TD5 :D but no guarantee :wasntme:


browny

So how are you tapping into the plug, from the other side (the side you plug into) or do you tap the wires ?

[George130]

Sounds very interesting.

[MW.TD5 Defender]

Pins 10, 11, 15 17 are presently empty pins in the black plug on the ECU. So Ign. 12 volts has to be supplied to pins 10 and 15 from an ignition source.
The 2 switches required ( Set/ Resume ) are NOT normal toggle ( ON/OFF ) switches but something like push button switches.
The 12volt supply from the Set/Resume switches pins 11 & 17 only need momentary 12volt supply to do their job.

Would this cruise control have small adjustments like regular C/ controls eg: raises the speed by 1kph per push.

Thanks

Mal

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Would this cruise control have small adjustments like regular C/ controls eg: raises the speed by 1kph per push.

Thanks

Mal
No you can't do one push one k. But if you hold the + button it does speed up. In practice I've found it best just to drive to the speed you want and hit the set button.

[MW.TD5 Defender]

How does it turn off when you apply the brakes? Does the ECU do this?

[DEFENDERZOOK]

the defenders have already got the switches on the brakes and the clutch.......
and the cruise control is already part of the ecu.....they just havent fitted the necessary wiring and switches in oz.......

so...the short answer is yes.........it should cut out when you press either the brakes or the clutch........

[MW.TD5 Defender]

Thanks Tony,

Have you done it to Lurch?

I'll add this job to the list ( probably near the top ) as it doesn't appear to be too involved.

Has anybody used cruise control switches from another vehicle ( indicator stock variety ) or after market.

Just wondering where to put the switches, ( No fowl comments please )

[George130]

I will be mounting mine on the center console:). The switches I set up for the winch will now become the cruise control.

[defender90]

found this site about cruise control that does defender http://www.dynamco.com.au/Sales/Cruise/drivebywire.html
and a link for the control stalk they use http://www.autron.com.au/newweb/index1280.htm

[harro]

A landrover mechanic up here fitted a disco one to my 02my Xtreme.
Works fine.
The control unit is on the right hand side of the steering column.

Paul.:twobeers:

[MW.TD5 Defender]

Sounds as if all us Defender TD5 owners will have cruise controls soon

[gruntfuttock]

Hi,

It only works with ECUs from MY 2002 and younger!!!


Regards browny

Can anyone tell me why?

I have a 2003 build. Does this mean that I cannot fit it?

I did investigate some earlier on in the piece but at over $1000. I thought it was a bit over the top price wise.

[defender90]

according to this site its my2002 onhttp://www.lrocv.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php't=3302&sid=81056dcc7e0d00b3c39588e77ee92b80

[gruntfuttock]

The kit that I had installed had a master on/off switch too?


What kit did you use?

Details please

[Blknight.aus]

Can anyone tell me why?

I have a 2003 build. Does this mean that I cannot fit it?

I did investigate some earlier on in the piece but at over $1000. I thought it was a bit over the top price wise.

Looking at the schematics the pin outs do the same thing but there might be softare changes that require a software module to talk to the ECU, like in the case of the new yank cruise control that can take its speed setting from the gps and inbuilt maps so that you dont need to worry about those spots where the road changes from 100 to 80 for a merging lane then comes back up to 100 again.

bloody smart, bloody lazy, typical yanks.

[tombraider]

Can anyone tell me why?

I have a 2003 build. Does this mean that I cannot fit it?

I did investigate some earlier on in the piece but at over $1000. I thought it was a bit over the top price wise.

2003 is younger than 2002 :cool:

[gruntfuttock]

2003 is younger than 2002 :cool:

Thanks,

Details????

[George130]

Just noticed the 2002 or younger bit:(.
Might try it anyway you never know.

[browny]

2002 onwards ECU is because it only works with the newer ECUs, which are flashable and have been used form 2002 on. The old ECU, which is not flashable does not work. You would have to exchange it for the newer one.

Cheers
browny

[Captain_Rightfoot]

What kit did you use?

Details please

aaargh... I don't know. I ran out of time, and couldn't find a wiring diagram so it was supplied and fitted by MR Automotive. I'm sure if you gave them a call they could give you the details.

It comes with both landrover switches, and a wiring loom.

[Redback]

Maybe an early D2 cruise control would work on an early Defender, just a thought.

Baz.

[Cameron_Def]

Is there a model number or something I can look at on my ECU to see what version I have..

as I have a late model 2001 would be keen to see if A. I can do this, B can I get ECU upgrade...!!

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Is there a model number or something I can look at on my ECU to see what version I have..

as I have a late model 2001 would be keen to see if A. I can do this, B can I get ECU upgrade...!!

Its NNN500020 :)

[tombraider]

Its NNN500020 :)

Close!

Its ANY ECU that does not start with "MSB" so any NNN ecu is:

(a) Flash upgradeable
(b) Suited to Cruise Control

Defenders had

NNN000120
NNN500020

Cheers
Mike

[tombraider]

Well, the kits done and fitted now (too dark, I'll take some more pics tomorrow)

Heres the bits laid out!
http://inlinethumb37.webshots.com/8164/2907632400101313710S200x200Q85.jpg
SWITCHES.... Momentary contact, Stainless Steel.

http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/7313/2513252880101313710S200x200Q85.jpg
Main Harness Connections (inc Rubber Seals etc...)

http://inlinethumb13.webshots.com/6988/2405570730101313710S200x200Q85.jpg
Switch and Power Loom (Behind Dash)

So there you have it!

Installation took around 1 1/2 hours (leisurely) and required the drilling of 2 0.500" holes for the switches.

I'll post installation instructions once I finish typing them up.

[LRHybrid100]

so Tomby, you going to be selling the kits?

LRH

[DEFENDERZOOK]

Well, the kits done and fitted now (too dark, I'll take some more pics tomorrow)







has the sun come up yet......?

[tombraider]

has the sun come up yet......?

Not for me...

At work before sunrise, into the building and out after sunset :o

But I'll make some up for you guys at cost (not a business thing) if your interested....

Maximum first 10 people....

[DEFENDERZOOK]

were interested........whats the cost......?

[whitetd5]

yepp, I am interested, how much?

[CraigE]

Bugger, always 2002 on flashable ecus.:(

[gruntfuttock]

Okay, I have a 2003 build, so I presume it is compatible as I cannot find any numbers on it. Are they underneath? or is it a sticker on top?

Anyway, assuming mine will comply, you can definatly put me down for one

[DEFENDERZOOK]

bump......

[stusgonesailing]

I'm in

[tombraider]

No worries guys...

I'll price it up once I get the gear...

Bulk wire is cheaper than shorter lengths... etc..

The choice of switches is the greatest expense in the kit so I'll offer some options...

Let me finish my rotation (just got home) which ends Sunday night and I'll get onto it.

[tombraider]

OK.... Heres some data for you guys eager to do this project....

http://trt.net.au/files/TD5Cruise.pdf

The above link will give a graphic of the wiring harness..

And show some of the components needed for the job.

http://trt.net.au/files/TRTDefenderTD5Cruise.pdf

This link is the full installation instructions.... For the kit...

And heres the Pics... :cool:

http://inlinethumb10.webshots.com/7881/2138295050101313710S425x425Q85.jpg
Dash removed.. The wire at the front is the new loom...
The pale blue wire in the back ground was the wire I pushed through as a 'tracer' to help pull the loom through.
I worked "top down" and fed the wire from dash to ECU, not the other way around.

http://inlinethumb28.webshots.com/7323/2692187080101313710S425x425Q85.jpg
Heres the cable through the bulkhead.

http://inlinethumb16.webshots.com/9679/2486531880101313710S425x425Q85.jpg
Cut the nipple off the loom (see where the blue wire is) and feed the trace wire through. It makes it easier to pull the loom through.

LANOTEC - Prevents the wire binding on the rubber and makes feeding the cable easy.

http://inlinethumb04.webshots.com/10499/2082496430101313710S425x425Q85.jpg
Loom in position. Now its time to get underneath and secure the loom in place! :(

http://inlinethumb28.webshots.com/8411/2039802610101313710S425x425Q85.jpg
Starting wherever you like, cable tie the new loom in place using a Ludicrous quantity of cable ties! Make sure it can't rub on anything it shouldn't ;)

I followed the loom down the side and up to the ECU.. Easy!

http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/9413/2598471700101313710S425x425Q85.jpg
Another shot showing loom heading down under the vehicle.

http://inlinethumb52.webshots.com/10163/2961575430101313710S425x425Q85.jpg
Following the loom that was there... Lots of cable ties.
I've left the ends on in the pics making it easier for you to see.

http://inlinethumb20.webshots.com/10003/2674173790101313710S425x425Q85.jpg
And up into the Seat Box it goes....

Hard to get a DSLR to take a shot from this close under here!

http://inlinethumb30.webshots.com/10205/2503919660101313710S425x425Q85.jpg
Looking forward between brake drum and chassis rail.

http://inlinethumb05.webshots.com/7300/2190128790101313710S425x425Q85.jpg
SEE the Safety Glasses?!
Wear them when your under the vehicle... They'll save your eyes from crud falling into them!

In this pic you can also see that for ALL THAT WORK, the cables finally through at both ends!

http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/8402/2246384300101313710S425x425Q85.jpg
Depending on how you choose to switch the system (dual switch, single switch, rocker type setup) will affect this bit...

Mark and drill the holes for the switches....
And before you ask, I haven't been able to find these 12mm dia switches anywhere to get some more...

http://inlinethumb04.webshots.com/9795/2233171290101313710S425x425Q85.jpg
Heres the back of the dash... The switches on mine are going on opposite ends...

A nice rocker switch would allow a single switch install.

http://inlinethumb49.webshots.com/9264/2606139090101313710S425x425Q85.jpg
Ahhh the good old Dremel...
I couldnt find my 1/2" drill so Dremel to the rescue!

http://inlinethumb26.webshots.com/10777/2525153630101313710S425x425Q85.jpg
Heres where the power feed for the cruise splices into the factory loom.
This is the connector for the Temperature Gauge.
Its just tapping a 12v feed.
I insulated it after this pic!

http://inlinethumb29.webshots.com/8220/2825363360101313710S425x425Q85.jpg
Switches in place and loom connected....
Use more cable ties to secure the sub loom to prevent rattles and it coming apart on corrugations!

http://inlinethumb17.webshots.com/7312/2845944730101313710S425x425Q85.jpg
Neat hey!

http://inlinethumb60.webshots.com/9851/2284411620101313710S425x425Q85.jpg
With the pins on the black plug found, the loom is pushed into the correct connections and the Plug refitted.
More cable ties to help support the loom were added!

http://inlinethumb53.webshots.com/6452/2072661670101313710S425x425Q85.jpg
Dash back in place and the Switches are visible...
The one you see here is the "Reset/Resume" one.

http://inlinethumb46.webshots.com/8109/2433830020101313710S425x425Q85.jpg
And heres the other one!
This one is "Set/Accelerate"

And there you have it!

Total time to install... 1.5 hours...

Result... Brilliant....

Its great to be able to "cruise" without throttle use... Your right foot will love you for it.

[Captain_Rightfoot]

I tell you toomby it might have taken you only 1.5 hours but that would have taken me at least a day :o Not including procrastination :(

[LRHybrid100]

Looking GREAT - so the kits will be available?

LRH

[George130]

Well I know I defiantly don't have a NN ECU:(

[gruntfuttock]

What is going on with this? Any progress yet????

[Gav110]

I had the standard kit fitted by a certain personality out in North Western Sydney who shall remain nameless (suffice to say emphasis on past tense of this relationship).

Said personality also fitted my GKN Overdrive (which is wonderful) and remapped the ECU (shortly to be replaced by TR's program) but despite all of this was unable to 'map' the ECU to operate the cruise control with the GKN Overdrive activated.

It works fine until it is activated, but then with the '6th' gear engaged, she no go. Some may ask - what's the damn point then? And I'd agree, so I now have a useless cruise. Said personality has now given up...

Anyone know of or suggest a fix? Gav

[CraigE]

I think you will find that the cruise control is set up specifically for the LR ECU and when the revs drop below a pre determined setting the cruise will not operate. I would not be too harsh on your mechanic, it is probablly not his fault. You may have to consult a technology wizard and even then it may not be possible. Talk to the manufacturer of the cruise control and maybe LR technical.

[tombraider]

Cruise will engage at 40km/h in ANY gear....

Progress... Just waiting for the connectors....
And have an electronics company looking for some real neat switches....

Expect to despatch in 7-10 days (hopefully hoses will be here too)

[Gav110]

I think you will find that the cruise control is set up specifically for the LR ECU and when the revs drop below a pre determined setting the cruise will not operate. I would not be too harsh on your mechanic, it is probablly not his fault. You may have to consult a technology wizard and even then it may not be possible. Talk to the manufacturer of the cruise control and maybe LR technical.


Sorry mate - don't accept that - he sold me all 3 items and claimed they'd work together. And it was not cheap.

I guess I'll have to look for an aftermarket non-ECU cruise control there are quite a few on the market. Happy to take any feedback from out there if any have fitted them.

[Gav110]

Cruise will engage at 40km/h in ANY gear....

Progress... Just waiting for the connectors....
And have an electronics company looking for some real neat switches....

Expect to despatch in 7-10 days (hopefully hoses will be here too)

Mike, when you're done (and done helping me with my tune and rims ;)) perhaps you can try to unlock the mystery of why my standard ECU cruise doesn't want to work with GKN Overdrive - must be some dumb ECU switch/restriction which your electronic magic can erase... Gav :p

[gruntfuttock]

What's the news with this? and progresss tombraider??

[tombraider]

What's the news with this? and progresss tombraider??

Just sorting the sale of the Defender out and then it'll be done...

Also searching for some nice switches for activation etc....

[gruntfuttock]

Thanks,

[LRHybrid100]

Just sorting the sale of the Defender out and then it'll be done...



WHAT THE!!! you can never sell a Defender!!!

[Blknight.aus]

he most certainly can sell the deefer, sold it to some nice old bloke in perth I hear...

This wasnt done to lara was it toomby?

Oh and the actual question I wanted to ask Does it serve as a hand throttle as well like the cruise controls in most trucks or is it a proper cruise control?

[tombraider]

he most certainly can sell the deefer, sold it to some nice old bloke in perth I hear...

This wasnt done to lara was it toomby?

Oh and the actual question I wanted to ask Does it serve as a hand throttle as well like the cruise controls in most trucks or is it a proper cruise control?

Lara has this fitted :cool:

And its a proper cruise control... Like I told the nice old bloke in Perth with some trouble maker for a son :angel:

[Blknight.aus]

bugger, would have been good to have it able to set the engine RPMS if your in nuetral for winching and the like..


and

Hey I resemble that last comment.

[LRHybrid100]

any update Tomby?

LRH

[tombraider]

any update Tomby?

LRH

Just sorting the sale of Lara and then into the supply stuff....

Apologies to everyone waiting for hoses and cruise!

[LRHybrid100]

NWM - still cannot believe your selling Lara!!!

So what you replacing it with, new 2007 Defender?

LRH

[discowhite]

NWM - still cannot believe your selling Lara!!!

So what you replacing it with, new 2007 Defender?

LRH
hes differant mr toomby! probably looking at a lada:twisted:

cheers phil

[tombraider]

hes differant mr toomby! probably looking at a lada:twisted:

cheers phil

Aww.. turn it up mate!!!

Nah, just cruising in the Disco 2 td5 :)

[discowhite]

maybe you should go out and buy a bike?
oh hang on...... you did:p

so what you trading lara on??? helicopter? hummer?? haul truck:twisted:

cheers phil

[BigTim]

If production on these cruise control kits has not yet started I'd like to put my name down too.

Just a thought - any chance of getting an extra wire or two in the loom to cater for installation of a tacho as discussed in various other threads here. Seems to make sense to run all the cables at once even if the meter itself isn't going in immediately. ;)

[discowhite]

pretty sur the wiring for the tacho is already behind the dash?
i did mine to long ago to be sure:(

cheers phil

ps. nice 90! you need to come on a 90's only drive with me and a few others;)

[BigTim]

Must confess I haven't yet pulled the dash to have a look - I was working of this thread http://aulro.com/afvb/showthread.php't=21999&highlight=defender+tacho
which seemed pretty comprehensive.

I'd be up for a 90's day for sure. Truck is stock other than the bar work (and a loose nut behind the wheel :) )but hey - it's a D90 so no probs eh?

[DEFENDERZOOK]

where abouts in sydney are you........?

[BigTim]

Moorebank / Liverpool

[discowhite]

geeze your close why havent i seen you???
im at revesby and east hills and morebank too.

if your ever near milperra rd and marigold st come see me im at coates.

cheers phil

[BigTim]

Always the way isn't it :) Funny enough I see 2 or 3 other Defenders (older 110's and a 130) quite regularly but the only other 90 I've spotted away from the dealers in 3 years was a bright yellow job up near Parramatta.

[discowhite]

that one would be gregs, aka akitda.
think hes still floating round, I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE GREG!

bit hard to hide a yellow 90:D

cheers phil

[werdan]

Cruise will engage at 40km/h in ANY gear....

Progress... Just waiting for the connectors....


Where are you sourcing the connector pins for the ECU plugs? I read somewhere that they are 'econoseal' type but I haven't had much luck finding them.

[haydofly]

Hi there,

"2002 onwards ECU is because it only works with the newer ECUs, which are flashable and have been used form 2002 on. The old ECU, which is not flashable does not work. You would have to exchange it for the newer one.

Cheers
browny"

Has anybody does this?
I am interested in buying a Td5 Defender in the future. I don't mind not having ABS, traction control etc but would like cruise control (and A/C).
If the computer is a straight swap, i would consider a pre-2002 model.

Any thoughts?

Cheers Hayden

[fraser130]

Well guys, I just finished installing this on my 03 D130cc and it works a treat!
I used a SPDT centre off momentary toggle switch and have it on the side of the centre console next to the seat, push forward for accelerate/set, pull backwards for pause/resume.
I'm one happy camper!

Total cost:
$2.70 for switch at jaycar
Free for plug pins removed from broken door locks from late Range Rover from auto elec.
1 1/2 hours doing the wiring.

Thanks guys!!! :twobeers:

[fraser130]

Just got back from a "proper" test run and it works EXACTLY the same as the factory cruise in my dad's Disco2 (no surprise there)
If you tap the set switch it does increase speed by a small increment.
clutch press kills throttle instantly, brake tap eases throttle quickly, but smoothly so no transmission "clunk"
Most impressed and my ECU is a 10th month of 2002.
It's way better than my aftermarket cruise I had in the TDi.

Cheers,
Fraser

[LRHybrid100]

Just got back from a "proper" test run and it works EXACTLY the same as the factory cruise in my dad's Disco2 (no surprise there)
If you tap the set switch it does increase speed by a small increment.
clutch press kills throttle instantly, brake tap eases throttle quickly, but smoothly so no transmission "clunk"
Most impressed and my ECU is a 10th month of 2002.
It's way better than my aftermarket cruise I had in the TDi.

Cheers,
Fraser

sounds good - any pix? you know the forum rules - didn't happen without pix!!! :p

LRH

[haydofly]

Read this on another forum-

"The old 2 spoke style rangie steering wheel fits the defender splines, and some of those had the cruise switches mounted in the middle bit of the wheel"

Anyone tried it with that setup?

[fraser130]

I've never looked but on those wheels how do the switches connect to the car? is it slip rings, or coiled wire wound around the column?

Fraser

[LRHybrid100]

G'day Fraser,

Any chance of any pix of your set up?

LRH

[fraser130]

I'll take some pics tomorrow when I'm fitting the dvd player (yes I know it's a Defender, but the DVD player goes with the 4 electric windows, and auto-start alarm(soon to be fitted))
There is not much to see as the only thing noticable is a small switch on the side of the electric windows control box.

[fraser130]

Okay, here are some pictures,
I haven't finished the cruise install as I wanted to check it worked before I ran the cables properly, then we went away camping for a while....etc.

You can see the little toggle switch on the side of the window switch box
It's a "centre off, momentary SPDT" Fron the drivers seat I just drop my thumb down next to the seat, press forward to accelerate/set the speed then let go at desired speed, or if I'm at the speed I want I just give it a quick click forward.
If I want to pause I just give it a quick click backwards, then to resume, another click backwards.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=6706&d=1202345419
Closer view:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=6704&d=1202345298

I will do the wiring properly, I promise!
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=6705&d=1202345353

My newest toy!
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=6703&d=1202345228

I wonder if the images worked???

Fraser

[LRHybrid100]

looking good, what connectors and plug seals did you use on the ECU end?

[LRHybrid100]

Hey Fraser - you going to the VIC show this year?

LRH

[fraser130]

I think I mentioned it earlier, I went to a local auto elec who deals in Range Rovers and he gave me some Knackered electric door locks which have the same connectors as the ECU, I removed 4 of the pins complete with the silicone seals and about 200mm (7 inches?) of cable, and soldered on to them.

Which VIC show?

[LRHybrid100]

I think I mentioned it earlier, I went to a local auto elec who deals in Range Rovers and he gave me some Knackered electric door locks which have the same connectors as the ECU, I removed 4 of the pins complete with the silicone seals and about 200mm (7 inches?) of cable, and soldered on to them.

Which VIC show?

THX mate,

The VIC 4WD show on at Wandin on 17.02.2008?

[fraser130]

Thanks, I just had a word with SWMBO and I recon we'll be there!
I didn't realise it was so soon!

Fraser

[Bavo]

ok ok, I will translate it for you:

The plug on top is the black plug on the ECU under the seat.

The pins on the ECU will be connected the following way:
Pin 10 - ignition +12V
Pin 11 - switch 1 (set function)
Pin 15 - ignition +12V
Pin 17 - switch 2 (resume function)

Pin 19 - is only mentioned, that you can connect here the available TD5 tachometer, not used for the cruise control

So the cruise control works by supplying ignition +12V to pin 10/15 permanently and the functions are activated by supplying the same temporary to pin 11 or 17.

For getting the ignition switched +12V (Zuendplus Klemme 15), if I remember correctly, when I had last time my dash off, use the green/white cable at the temperature or fuel gauge in the dash. Put two switches on the dash and run a long cable to the ECU.

More clear now? It works on my TD5 :D but no guarantee :wasntme:


browny
I know this is a really old thread but...
Does anyone know if this will work on a MY12 2.2 litre 110?
Thanks,
Bavo.

[Tombie]

I know this is a really old thread but...
Does anyone know if this will work on a MY12 2.2 litre 110?
Thanks,
Bavo.

Nope. It won't :(

[Parker]

Resurrecting this old thread. I just ordered 4 ECU pins with wire from Futuranet and have to find a suitable switch setup. Will check out Jaycar. Total should be less that $40 for a working cruise control I hope.

BTW, anyone needing new door switches: Jaycar has them for $7.50 a set of two.

[Tombie]

Resurrecting this old thread. I just ordered 4 ECU pins with wire from Futuranet and have to find a suitable switch setup. Will check out Jaycar. Total should be less that $40 for a working cruise control I hope.

BTW, anyone needing new door switches: Jaycar has them for $7.50 a set of two.


12mm security style push button switches from eBay.
Momentary action only.

[Parker]

Brilliant. They even come in different colors .

Momentary Off on switch switch is only "on" when the button is held down
Color: Six colors Randomly Sent
Panel hole diameter: 11.25mm
Overall dimensions: 21 x 18mm H x D
Commonly used as vehicle horns, ignition switch and for doorbells
Rated Voltage: 1A 250VAC

Package including:
6 x Push Button Switches

Search:
6Pcs 12mm Mini Round Car Boat Switch Waterproof Momentary Push Button Switches

[Roger Malmstrom]

hi.
I am installing cruise control in my Defender td5 from 2002.
And I can't get it to work.
I have ECU NNN000120 in my car.
and from what I understand after reading here I have to program (update) the ECU to get the cruise control working.
It now doesn't respond after installing the connectors and cables.
How do I update it?
does it have to be done at an authorized Landrover workshop?
or can engine optimizers do it?
best regards Roger



Close!

Its ANY ECU that does not start with "MSB" so any NNN ecu is:

(a) Flash upgradeable
(b) Suited to Cruise Control

Defenders had

NNN000120
NNN500020

Cheers
Mike

[shack]

hi.
I am installing cruise control in my Defender td5 from 2002.
And I can't get it to work.
I have ECU NNN000120 in my car.
and from what I understand after reading here I have to program (update) the ECU to get the cruise control working.
It now doesn't respond after installing the connectors and cables.
How do I update it?
does it have to be done at an authorized Landrover workshop?
or can engine optimizers do it?
best regards RogerThe ECU programming doesn't need updating for it to work, but the switches and wiring need to be installed correctly.

Do you mean the CC doesn't respond?
Or the ECU itself?

[Captain_Rightfoot]

hi.
I am installing cruise control in my Defender td5 from 2002.
And I can't get it to work.
I have ECU NNN000120 in my car.
and from what I understand after reading here I have to program (update) the ECU to get the cruise control working.
It now doesn't respond after installing the connectors and cables.
How do I update it?
does it have to be done at an authorized Landrover workshop?
or can engine optimizers do it?
best regards Roger
I have the LR unit. You don't have to touch the ecu, just make sure you get the right wires. I think mine is the later ECU though.

Tip is they are great but not super great if you know what I mean. I'm glad I've got it but in hilly terrain it's probably better to drive manually.

[shack]

I have the LR unit. You don't have to touch the ecu, just make sure you get the right wires. I think mine is the later ECU though.

Tip is they are great but not super great if you know what I mean. I'm glad I've got it but in hilly terrain it's probably better to drive manually.Yes, the stock cruise on both the defender (when enabled) and the D2 TD5 is not great.

I've been tuning the cruise on them for a number of years, it's much better IMO.