Discovery Td5 model changes

[Bushwanderer]

I am considering upgrading from my '93 200Tdi Discovery to a D2 Td5 (over the next few months).

For the life of me I can't find a site that describes the changes in the model over its life.

As some units for sale are listed as 00.5MY, I suspect that there were significant changes at that time (but what were they?).

Please point me in the right direction.

Pedro (the Slow) :(

[McDisco]

Pedro

Check out redbook.com.au

It contains a lot of information about the different models.

Cheers

Angus

[Bushwanderer]

Thanks Angus. Will Do.

Pedro (the slow)


Pedro

Check out redbook.com.au

It contains a lot of information about the different models.

Cheers

Angus

[Franz]

I am considering upgrading from my '93 200Tdi Discovery to a D2 Td5 (over the next few months).

For the life of me I can't find a site that describes the changes in the model over its life.

As some units for sale are listed as 00.5MY, I suspect that there were significant changes at that time (but what were they?).

Please point me in the right direction.

Pedro (the Slow) :(
The TD5 was launched in 1999 and had 2 changes in its life up to 2004. There were always minor changes ever year or 2 such as different mags and other cosmetic variances.

Major changes came in the 2002 model year when the centre diff lock was removed - if you are going off road stay away from this model. Then came the major change in 2003 to what we generally call the Discovery Series 2a. There were 750 changes in this model (some minor and some major - new headlights, tail lights, grill, bumper etc, etc)

It's generally accepted that this is the best pic of the series as many of the previous problems were fixed and I have thus far had less issues with my 2004 than I did with my 2001 model.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

[Franz]

The TD5 was launched in 1999 and had 2 changes in its life up to 2004. There were always minor changes ever year or 2 such as different mags and other cosmetic variances.

Major changes came in the 2002 model year when the centre diff lock was removed - if you are going off road stay away from this model. Then came the major change in 2003 to what we generally call the Discovery Series 2a. There were 750 changes in this model (some minor and some major - new headlights, tail lights, grill, bumper etc, etc)

It's generally accepted that this is the best pic of the series as many of the previous problems were fixed and I have thus far had less issues with my 2004 than I did with my 2001 model.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Almost forgot one of the major changes - the CDL linkage was put back in!

[WildOne]

The TD5 was launched in 1999 and had 2 changes in its life up to 2004. There were always minor changes ever year or 2 such as different mags and other cosmetic variances.

Major changes came in the 2002 model year when the centre diff lock was removed - if you are going off road stay away from this model. Then came the major change in 2003 to what we generally call the Discovery Series 2a. There were 750 changes in this model (some minor and some major - new headlights, tail lights, grill, bumper etc, etc)

It's generally accepted that this is the best pic of the series as many of the previous problems were fixed and I have thus far had less issues with my 2004 than I did with my 2001 model.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,


My TD5 is a late 2001 model and had no CDL internals, i think the removal of the cdl from the transfer case happened mid 2001 so be weary.
I have since solved this annoying problem so i would'nt totally discount a good well maintained disco without cdl internals.

[justinc]

:DI would keep the D1.....:D


JC

[Scouse]

The only Discos that I have heard being called 2000.5 model years were the later 00MY ES Discoveries.
They had a few extras fitted prior to sale (chrome insert side moulds, stainless spare wheel cover.....) but otherwise they were the same car.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

cough! who? :eek:

[Franz]

My TD5 is a late 2001 model and had no CDL internals, i think the removal of the cdl from the transfer case happened mid 2001 so be weary.
I have since solved this annoying problem so i would'nt totally discount a good well maintained disco without cdl internals.
Yes, late 2001 models probably did have the CDL internals removed. All the ones I have heard of have been 2002 models though.

[Redback]

Yes, late 2001 models probably did have the CDL internals removed. All the ones I have heard of have been 2002 models though.

You need to check the build date, not rego date on LR.

the D2 was released in England in late 1998, when it came to Australia it was released in 1999.

The Vin number is the only way to get model changes correct.

(eg) for CDL in or not.

If you have the diff lock stud on your unit you will only require the linkage parts, to determine this you will need to find the transfer case serial number and check it starts with either 41D or 42D.

If it starts with 61D, 62D, 69D or 70D then you will need the diff lock parts to go in the transfer case.

This is strange i know, but it's the way it is here, my D2 has a build date of august 2000, but was released as a 2001 model buy LR.

The model change is mid year, june/july/august approx:confused:

Baz.

[ak]

You need to check the build date, not rego date on LR.

the D2 was released in England in late 1998, when it came to Australia it was released in 1999.

The Vin number is the only way to get model changes correct.

(eg) for CDL in or not.

If you have the diff lock stud on your unit you will only require the linkage parts, to determine this you will need to find the transfer case serial number and check it starts with either 41D or 42D.

If it starts with 61D, 62D, 69D or 70D then you will need the diff lock parts to go in the transfer case.

This is strange i know, but it's the way it is here, my D2 has a build date of august 2000, but was released as a 2001 model buy LR.

The model change is mid year, june/july/august approx:confused:

Baz.

My D2 was build date june 2001 and had the CDL in the transfer case. I did not check this until after I purchased it. I guess I was really lucky.

[Redback]

My D2 was build date june 2001 and had the CDL in the transfer case. I did not check this until after I purchased it. I guess I was really lucky.

I did here that some 2001 build date D2s did have the CDL internals, yours being june maybe the model change is July or August.

Baz.

[ak]

I did here that some 2001 build date D2s did have the CDL internals, yours being june maybe the model change is July or August.

Baz.

Yep I think your right Baz, it was July or August however it's still a bit of a lottery.

[Bushwanderer]

Hi All,
Many thanks for all the helpful replies. This is a great forum!

At McDisco's suggestion, I've examining the data in Redbook. I know that these sorts of guides, including Glass', do have errors and so don't take the following as gospel, but according to Redbook:
- All DII's had VINs beginning with SALLTGM. In the data below, what is listed as the VIN is the next 4 alphanumerics.
- The First DII (release date Feb 1999), was designated "Series II" & the VIN was "97XA".

I was planning on sending a table of data, but I can't find out how to do it (probably just my incompetence (after all I am "Slow")):). Any help appreciated.

Pedro

[Bushwanderer]

cough! who? :eek:

Hi Pedro_The_Swift,
I must confess that - in a previous life - I was also nicknamed "Pedro the swift". Over time, I got sick of trying to explain it to people and shortened it to "Pedro".

When I signed up to aulro, I didn't even know you existed, otherwise I may have used a different "monicker" .
These days, "Pedro the Slow" is probably more apt. :(

Further, I wouldn't want anyone to confuse me with someone of your expertise. :D

Pedro (the Slow)

[LandyAndy]

We need another Pedro:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
Bet the new one is BETTER:D:D:D:D:D:D
Andrew

[Pedro_The_Swift]

wouldnt surprise me---:D

[Bushwanderer]

We need another Pedro:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
Bet the new one is BETTER:D:D:D:D:D:D
Andrew

Hi Andrew,
While I hope to become better, I certainly can't claim it at the moment. In fact, I have capitulated & chosen a new moniker. ;)

Best Wishes,
Bushwanderer

[scrambler]

Hi All,
Many thanks for all the helpful replies. This is a great forum!

At McDisco's suggestion, I've examining the data in Redbook. I know that these sorts of guides, including Glass', do have errors and so don't take the following as gospel, but according to Redbook:
- All DII's had VINs beginning with SALLTGM. In the data below, what is listed as the VIN is the next 4 alphanumerics.
- The First DII (release date Feb 1999), was designated "Series II" & the VIN was "97XA".

I was planning on sending a table of data, but I can't find out how to do it (probably just my incompetence (after all I am "Slow")):). Any help appreciated.

Pedro
Land Rover vins can be decoded at CalVIN (can't think of the address off the top of my head, I always enter "calvin land rover" into google and it spits it out for me.

That will tell you what those alphanumerics mean.

[tombraider]

We need another Pedro:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
Bet the new one is BETTER:D:D:D:D:D:D
Andrew

And hopefully wise and a Diesel lover :wasntme:

[Pedro_The_Swift]

And hopefully wise and a Diesel lover :wasntme:


OY!


those two are not mutually exclusive.
:p

[Bushwanderer]

Thanks scrambler,
I found it: www.clifton.nl

Now I can spend even more time on the internet. :o

Bushwanderer


Land Rover vins can be decoded at CalVIN (can't think of the address off the top of my head, I always enter "calvin land rover" into google and it spits it out for me.

That will tell you what those alphanumerics mean.

[Bushwanderer]

Hi Tombraider,
I'd have to be a diesel lover. Who else would go from a 200Tdi to a Td5? :p

For some inexplicable reason my wisdom is often called into question. :(

Pedro



And hopefully wise and a Diesel lover :wasntme:

[Bushwanderer]

Thanks scrambler,
I found it: www.clifton.nl

Now I can spend even more time on the internet. :o

Bushwanderer


Land Rover vins can be decoded at CalVIN (can't think of the address off the top of my head, I always enter "calvin land rover" into google and it spits it out for me.

That will tell you what those alphanumerics mean.