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Gromit68
8th August 2007, 04:19 PM
Ok

I'm willing to give anyone who can get my poor old 2A diesel running again 4 boxes of beer - your choice (provided I can get it at my local Dan Murphys). If more than one of you turn up; you have to share.

I can't prime it and when I could prime it (before I drained the sedimentor), it wouldn't run properly.

If you have more know-how than I do (that's not hard :p), PM me and we'll sort out the beer brand you prefer. I'll even have them chilled!

I'm near Campbelltown, Sydney.

cheers,
Alastair

isuzurover
8th August 2007, 04:24 PM
Damn - wish I was in Sydney...

incisor
8th August 2007, 04:47 PM
my thoughts exactly :P

Quiggers
8th August 2007, 04:52 PM
For zillion beers later, no one will notice if it's running or not:D:D:D

Cheers, GQ

Killer
8th August 2007, 05:41 PM
I had a simalar problem to yours once with a Hilux diesel, it turned out that the pickup pipe was fractured, just enough so that sometimes when the pipe flexed it would suck in air through the crack. Might be worth checking out.

Cheers, Mick.

mcrover
8th August 2007, 05:57 PM
I'll be nice and give you some more FREE advice.

You will need:

Compressed air with air blower
Rag
Tools for filter and pump.
Someone to help you

First, remove the filter and push the rag into the filler hole around the air blower and let a bit of air into the tank but dont over do it, if you see the tank starting to expand and nothing is coming out at the filter then there is a blockage in or at the start of the line.

once you have fuel flowing through the line, refit the filter and prime it using the same meathod and then the pump.

Now with the pump and the fuel line primed, get your mate to do it again and get under and check the the fuel line to see if there is any leaks or even weeps of diesel.

Then if all looks good you will need to check the check valve and Im not entirely sure how you would do that on a SII landy or even if it has one but someone who has had some experiance with these specific engines may be able to fill in the gaps but you can buy in line filters with check valves if need be.

In most Ag diesels that I work on they dont run check valves as they run the fuel tank higher than the engine.

Now if it still wont start then it may be a fuel timing issue or the injector pump is in need of some attention.

I would bet that it will be as simple as a check valve or blocked line which is causing the issues.

akelly
8th August 2007, 06:44 PM
G'day Alastair. I'm certainly not a guru, and have not played with the series diesel, but have some experience (limited) with other diesels. I've re-read your other post, can you describe what the current problem is?

I work at Liverpool and could probably drop in to have a gander at it with you sometime in the next couple of days.

Dont "e-punch" me for asking this - but with all the bleeding and what-not, is there still plenty of fuel in the tank? Oh, and have you tried bleeding the injectors?

Blknight.aus
8th August 2007, 07:15 PM
damn it trailer it up here.....

CowsGoMoo
8th August 2007, 07:50 PM
Damn, never worked on a series diesel. Spent 12 years keeping a 4 cyl petrol going....

Mmmm, beer....

CowsGoMoo
9th August 2007, 07:34 PM
Hi Alastair, any updates on your SII?

Disco300Tdi
9th August 2007, 08:54 PM
Maybe you could send a Dan Murphy gift voucher to whoever gave you the correct remedy :twobeers::twobeers:

Reads90
9th August 2007, 09:16 PM
my thoughts exactly :P

ditto

Blknight.aus
9th August 2007, 09:27 PM
how ****ed is he going to be when it turns out to be hes just replumbed it wrong and the fuel lift pump is just working as a circ filter and returning all the fuel back to tank instead of the injector pump.....


Wont mention the name of a certain bloke who did that when he did up his whilst drinking........


3 days later the manuals came out...

Reads90
9th August 2007, 09:49 PM
how ****ed is he going to be when it turns out to be hes just replumbed it wrong and the fuel lift pump is just working as a circ filter and returning all the fuel back to tank instead of the injector pump.....


Wont mention the name of a certain bloke who did that when he did up his whilst drinking........


3 days later the manuals came out...


My brother took a 2.5 diesel out of a 90 and put in a V8 and coud not get it to work. After a week he offered a mate (who knew everything) a rolling range rover chassis if he could get the thing to work
The mate came round took one look at the engine and turn a plug on the side of the top around and then stod back and told my brother to start the car. It started and worked perfect. So a deal is a deal and we gave him the rolling chassis for about 2 mins work.



BUT
About a couple of months later he was moaning to another mate that one of the diffs in the rolling chassis wined abit, And how he was not happy at being conned by me and my brother. The other mate could not belive what he was moaning about when we told him the full story:)

DEFENDERZOOK
9th August 2007, 09:57 PM
sounds like it may have a simple fuel pump problem.....ie...the rubber diaphragm in the lift pump......

Blknight.aus
9th August 2007, 10:03 PM
ID love to have a crack at that diesel tho....


just the kind of simple job i like to have to tinker with on a saturday arvo while the first beer goes down while the BBQ temp comes up.

Reads90
9th August 2007, 10:04 PM
ID love to have a crack at that diesel tho....


just the kind of simple job i like to have to tinker with on a saturday arvo while the first beer goes down while the BBQ temp comes up.


Yeah i know the feeling. I have had loads of dieels i my time and played around with them
But i am in Brisbane so now go for me

DEFENDERZOOK
9th August 2007, 10:06 PM
if you guys left there now........you could be back there with plenty of time left to enjoy your beers before having to get up for work again on monday.........

Blknight.aus
9th August 2007, 10:23 PM
tempting, very very tempting.....

But I reckon the beer might be more appreicated o nsundays run. I reckon I could get down, start it (got bless areostart) nab the beer and be on time for the run....


(and coming up through the ranges would also cool the beers)


you know one day Im going to do something stupid like that again... just out of the blue travel an inordinate distance to do something like that......

Gromit68
10th August 2007, 11:59 AM
Thanks for all the help folks.

Akelly came over and we checked the fuel - only clean diesel came out the bottom of the tank.

It was gulping a gut full of air from a faulty sedimentor bowl seal, plus there was air in the filter, the pump and the injectors. I'd have never got all that air out by myself!

Battery went flat trying to turn it over, so I called NRMA this morning and they hooked up two batteries to it - and it fired (with more smoke than a steam train).

It's running fine now. I hope it continues to do so, my girlfriend is driving it now and has warned it: break down and you get replaced with a 110.

To avoid this diesel bug clogging up my filters again, I'm going to try to keep the tank full, check the sedimentor bowl more carefully and change all the filters every 6 months instead of every 12.
Can I do anymore?

-Alastair

CowsGoMoo
10th August 2007, 07:57 PM
Good to hear all is well.

Isn't there some kind of "no-more-snot" you can put in the fuel tank?

Blknight.aus
10th August 2007, 08:08 PM
dont change the filter 12 monthly you can purchase a tratement for the fuel that kills the bug and assists in dewatering the fuel.

change your sedimentro for one that has a drain tap and ocne a month, with the engine running drain 200ml from this and discard. Ideally you want to place this sedimentor so that the drain is lower than the fuel level so that it is syphon fed while you bleed it.

If you cant reliabley get it to do it this way, try this...

1. park on top of a long hill
2. drain the sedimentor dry
3. replace the sedimentor, push it and let it roll down in 3rd with your foot flat to the boards.

But if all is good you should be able to hand prime the system and get it to fire on about the 20th turn of the crank if you do the bleed up and injector prime correctly...

Ive even been known to use a crank handle to prime the whole engine up so that I can win bets.. Usually like this "betcha I can bleed up a series diesel and have it start within one second of the starter engaging and turning the crank"

These are usually the same people who got upset when I bet them That I own a diesel engined vehicle that came with a crank handle.

Its even funnier when you bet them you can crank start a diesel, tho that takes about an hours worth of prep work.