Another Williams road death

[LandyAndy]

Not sure how it happened but somebody lost control of their vehicle last nite,on the Narrogin rd,only travelled 500m or so from Albany hwy.They hit the armco barrier on the bridge on the wrong side of the roadf.It came up thru the floor impailing the driver.
The rescue copter was here for an hour and a half,so his chances had to be low.
Died before they got him to Perth.
Andrew

[4bee]

Getting stuck on a piece of Armco would make a right old bloody mess I should think. Poor bugger!:(

[BMKal]

I came through there about mid-afternoon yesterday Andy - on way from Bunbury to Kalgoorlie. Weather was shocking all the way from Perth to Bunbury, then from Bunbury right through to Southern Cross on the way home - but we made it home OK about 7 last night.

Cops were out on the Narrogin road just out of Williams with their radar going when I went through - obviously not enough to get some people to slow down. The number of vehicles (especially dark coloured ones) that I came across yesterday in crap weather conditions with no lights on was bloody amazing - no wonder they get cleaned up.

Sorry I didn't have time to catch up this time - will plan next trip down that way a bit better so that I'm not in such a rush (and don't have a car full of passengers).

[DirtyDawg]

Speed does kill.. Thats why I drive a Defender No Chance of speeding

[barryj]

Speed does kill.. Thats why I drive a Defender No Chance of speeding

It's not speeding that is the problem, just the sudden stop (just like parachuting I suppose).

[Jack110]

Defenders have a high tech built in safety system shared by few other vehicles...
At 110/120 clicks my defender feels like it's at the right speed(even fast!)...Onya LR, just how do you design that in...
My wife has an 04 SS C'dore 5.7L v8, it flies...you have to make a concious decision to stay under the limit, i use the cruise control for that reason.
Wonder if they keep any stats on type of vehicles in single vehicle accidents, I reckon you'd find more ss' than Landies..

[Landy110]

Yes you've got to wonder why all cars aren't built to the 110 benchmark. I think we'd all be safer.

[shorty943]

Yes you've got to wonder why all cars aren't built to the 110 benchmark. I think we'd all be safer.


I want my phase 4 Ford.
Right now!:twisted:

But you are right Steve. In a way.

Youth = inexperience.
Make them drive slow cars.

Even considerable experience in some, does not mean considerable competence.

Let's grade liscences for proven competence, rather than just passing a game of twenty questions.
You want high performance, you better operate to that level.

Me? Yeah, I'm alright. I drive a Series Landy.
I can't get to the top speed limit.:p

[Jeff]

Youth = inexperience.
Make them drive slow cars.

Me? Yeah, I'm alright. I drive a Series Landy.
I can't get to the top speed limit.:p

I disagree, I had a 2A when I was young but a very fast bike, if you make them drive slow cars they will still f%#@ up, so will older people. Going slower does not equate to safer no matter what government propaganda says.

Jeff

:rocket:

[barryj]

I disagree, I had a 2A when I was young but a very fast bike, if you make them drive slow cars they will still f%#@ up, so will older people. Going slower does not equate to safer no matter what government propaganda says.

Jeff

:rocket:


True.

My old 2A would do 70mph by the speedo, even on the beach with 15psi in the tyres :eek:.

Young and stupid as they come but I was bullet proof:angel:.

Well that's what I thought anyway. After a few incidents I mellowed.

[MrsMcRover]

Poor Bugger :(

[stuart]

mmm, was doing pace notes yesterday for Targa West long story short...hundreds of bikes on the road some doing crazy speeds!!! said to my nav i can see y they crash!!! come to do Mundaring Weir road come round a bend and yup bike stuck in the front of a Rav 4 and bag of jelly on on the road...(biker lost control) time and place for those speeds!!! and crazy S@&t!!!

Wasn't the best end to the day...

Stuart@rovacraft.com.au






Not sure how it happened but somebody lost control of their vehicle last nite,on the Narrogin rd,only travelled 500m or so from Albany hwy.They hit the armco barrier on the bridge on the wrong side of the roadf.It came up thru the floor impailing the driver.
The rescue copter was here for an hour and a half,so his chances had to be low.
Died before they got him to Perth.
Andrew

[cartm58]

the answer is simple but not popular

learner permit to be held for 12 months with minimum driving hours logged for all weather, day night times

part of test for probationary license do skid control on skid pan

probationary license 3 years if caught speeding etc immediate cancellation of license and back to 12 months L plates and start of 3 year probationary period

re-tested before you move from probationary to full license

if you score breath test or speeding fines above 25km automatic cancellation of license and back to L plates then P Plates.

emphasis is on ensuring responsible skilled driving not revenue raising fines for govt

[barryj]

the answer is simple but not popular

learner permit to be held for 12 months with minimum driving hours logged for all weather, day night times

part of test for probationary license do skid control on skid pan

probationary license 3 years if caught speeding etc immediate cancellation of license and back to 12 months L plates and start of 3 year probationary period

re-tested before you move from probationary to full license

if you score breath test or speeding fines above 25km automatic cancellation of license and back to L plates then P Plates.

emphasis is on ensuring responsible skilled driving not revenue raising fines for govt

Queensland is doing some of these now.

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/Home/Licensing/Learn_to_drive/Young_drivers/

Time will tell if it works.