Little Black Box into 1997 300 Tdi Discovery

[DISCO COL]

Hi all, I have just purchased a Little Black Box alarm to fit into my Discovery but I am stuck. The instructions are for the 300 Tdi Defender and pictures show fitting into a Td5 Disco both are not much help to me. I am in Hoppers Crossing Victoria so if anyone is nearby and can offer some help I would really appreciate it or if there are some better instructions for fitting into my specific vehicle I wouldn't mind a copy emailed to me. Failing that, if anyone wants to buy this from me for what I paid I will get something else and get it installed by someone who knows what they are doing. It cost me $160 plus ten bucks postage.

Regards
Col

[PAT303]

What does the black box check? Pat

[George130]

PM the entertainer he should be able to help.

[DISCO COL]

PM the entertainer he should be able to help.

I have but was hoping that somebody may have fitted it to a 300 Tdi Discovery and could post some details of what goes where and where to fit the brass sender that comes in the kit.

Col

[DISCO COL]

What does the black box check? Pat

Coolant alarm, alternator alarm, battery condition, oil alarm with LEDs.

Col

[George130]

I don't know the 300 TDI's. on my TD5 I put the temp sensor near the back of the block. Just removed one of the nuts for the lifting hook and screwed it into that. If the TDI has similar then that would be your best bet.

[eddy]

Col,
They sound a worthwhile device,I would persevere and get in touch with www.littleblackbox.co.za I am sure they can supply the directions for a 300TDI Disco if requested.Otherwise try their OZ rep Jan.Dippenaar@coates.com.au.
I am going to put their low coolant alarm in my similar Disco,so let us know how you go.

[DISCO COL]

Col,
They sound a worthwhile device,I would persevere and get in touch with www.littleblackbox.co.za I am sure they can supply the directions for a 300TDI Disco if requested.Otherwise try their OZ rep Jan.Dippenaar@coates.com.au.
I am going to put their low coolant alarm in my similar Disco,so let us know how you go.

I have given up on it after two wasted days trying to work it out. The wiring under the fascia of the Disco is a nightmare and I have been looking through the Rave diagrams trying to get colour codes and what goes where. I don't know where to safely tap into the Alternator, Oil and Ignition. The coolant level and temp switch are easy and the main box mounts easy under the right central switch block under the clock. The temp sender screwed straight into the front of the head between the thermostat housing and the oil dip stick. It seems nobody has ever fitted one of these to a 300 Tdi Discovery. If somebody has I wish they would give me a hint as to how to wire it. It also seems that you need a calibration box to set it up correctly otherwise it is a bit of guess work. I didn't know that before I bought it and thought it would be a Plug and Play item. I have contacted Jan to see if he will take it back and refund my money. Anybody want it let me know.

Col
(useless auto elec)

[barryj]

I have given up on it after two wasted days trying to work it out. The wiring under the fascia of the Disco is a nightmare and I have been looking through the Rave diagrams trying to get colour codes and what goes where. I don't know where to safely tap into the Alternator, Oil and Ignition. The coolant level and temp switch are easy and the main box mounts easy under the right central switch block under the clock. The temp sender screwed straight into the front of the head between the thermostat housing and the oil dip stick. It seems nobody has ever fitted one of these to a 300 Tdi Discovery. If somebody has I wish they would give me a hint as to how to wire it. It also seems that you need a calibration box to set it up correctly otherwise it is a bit of guess work. I didn't know that before I bought it and thought it would be a Plug and Play item. I have contacted Jan to see if he will take it back and refund my money. Anybody want it let me know.

Col
(useless auto elec)

Col, you would do yourself a big favour by putting your location and information about yourself in your profile.

This way we may be able to help or at least we might be able to point you in the direction of a local that might be able to help.

I understand your frustration on buying something and then not being able to install it but it could be an easy fix.

Don't give up yet.

[DISCO COL]

Col, you would do yourself a big favour by putting your location and information about yourself in your profile.

This way we may be able to help or at least we might be able to point you in the direction of a local that might be able to help.

I understand your frustration on buying something and then not being able to install it but it could be an easy fix.

Don't give up yet.

Profile done. If anything needs to be added let me know. This is different to the other bike forums that I log on to.

Col

[barryj]

Profile done. If anything needs to be added let me know. This is different to the other bike forums that I log on to.

Col

Thanks Col, Nice bike.

[p38arover]

Profile done. If anything needs to be added let me know. This is different to the other bike forums that I log on to.

Col

Your location isn't showing up in the top RH corner of your posts. You've put data in the public profile. At the top left of the menu bar, you'll see User CP (user control panel). Click that for the menu. Click Edit Profile, then scroll down the page to the relevant section.. Make and save the changes.

Ron

[TheEntertainer]

Hi Col, I've e-mailed the instuctions but will post it here for the rest. It's taken a few days to get the instructions as the manufacturer is moving house.
Here we go!

Main Fuse Box - behind cover below steering wheel.

Thick Yellow wire from fuse box Ignition connect to LBB Red
Steel bar for cover hinges Ground - connect to LBB Black

Engine harness, (in engine bay) that runs over the vacuum pump

Brown/White Oil light - connect to LBB Orange
Brown/Yellow Alternator light - connect to LBB Green

Head temp sensor - connect to LBB Yellow

LBB White - no connection
LBB Purple - no connection

Re Calibration - See the calibration write up under the TDI wiring section - note do the setting with the Headlights on and the Air conditioner running.

Cheers

TheEntertainer

[DISCO COL]

It is all up and running but I ended up doing it differently because the colours given were not the colours I found.

Here is what you sent

Main Fuse Box - behind cover below steering wheel.
Thick Yellow wire from fuse box Ignition connect to LBB Red
Steel bar for cover hinges Ground - connect to LBB Black

Engine harness, (in engine bay) that runs over the vacuum pump
Brown/White Oil light - connect to LBB Orange
Brown/Yellow Alternator light - connect to LBB Green

Head temp sensor - connect to LBB Yellow
LBB White - no connection
LBB Purple - no connection

Re Calibration - See the calibration write up under the TDI wiring section - note do the setting with the Headlights on and the Air conditioner running.

Here is what I did.

Main Fuse Box - behind cover below steering wheel.
Spare positive post in fuse block - Ignition connect to LBB Red
Black was connected to Ground near the horn - connect to LBB Black

White with brown trace at oil pressure sender - connect to LBB Orange - soldered on at the sender wire.
Brown no trace at rear of Alternator - connect to LBB Green - soldered on at rear of alternantor.

Head temp sensor mounted in front of head to the right of thermostat housing - connect to LBB Yellow
LBB White - no connection
LBB Purple - no connection

The White Purple and red wires were cut from the LBB loom and the wire used to connect the Temp sender, oil pressure and alternator.

Little Black Box mounted with double sided tape under spare switch block under clock and loom feeds down and under the bottom edge of panel. I mounted a four fuse block next to the horn. Water temp, oil pressure, head temp, and alternator all fused with 5 amp fuses. I put an inline fuse into the 12 volt ignition connection. Adjusted the temp alarm as per instructions.All wiring fed through plastic conduit, soldered and heat shrink tube covered joints.

All is working well. If you want photos to go along with this in case someone else has difficulties let me know and I will do some.

Thanks all for the help and advice (especially Jan the Entertainer). The temper got the better of me early on with this but in hind sight, with the right advice it wasn't too bad. It took me quite a few hours to do it all correctly with fuses and routing through the plastic flexi conduit stuff and of course finding the correct wires to join into.

Col

[George130]

God to hear you got it sorted.

[barryj]

Great news.

Hope you enjoy your Landy more now that you know a bit more about how it ticks.