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stikman
30th August 2007, 09:40 PM
What happens when a wheel bearing lets go........:( while driving home from work :o at 100km/h on the highway :eek:

Well, I can tell you......the wheel locks up and the ass kicks out :no2:

So was cruising home from work, driving down the highway from Brisbane to the Gold Coast, and i hear a noise coming from the back wheel, Bang, wheel locks up, back kicks out and the car skids.......luckily the wheel let loose and there was no traffic to my left so i hooked it off the highway. Get out, have a look, cant see anything....wheels are still on ;) brakes look OK, get back in start rolling forward, grind crunch, grind crunch, OK not sounding good, slowly slowly to the next exit and out of harms way. Jack up the wheel, turning but does not feel or sound good, jack up the other wheel, no issues....OK Dont think its the diff, take the brake pads out, nop not the brakes, must be a bearing :mad: Flat bed, $200 and 3 hrs later Disco makes it home, pull off the wheel and hub (dont get me started on that :() and i find this whats left of an inner bearing, casing in pieces and the bearing welded to the stub axles :mad: Back to the mechanic tomorrow on a flat bed.......more bloody money :mad:

Outlaw
30th August 2007, 09:57 PM
hmmm dejavue... positive i've already seen this thread but i thought it was from MickG :no2:

Blknight.aus
30th August 2007, 09:58 PM
nice spit, yer lucky it wasnt the outer..

stevo68
30th August 2007, 10:12 PM
Yikes mate, lucky it could have been worse, I know that experience when my car pooped itself, though luckily I wasnt doing 100km, so you will still be right for Coffs??

Regards

Stevo

Blknight.aus
30th August 2007, 10:27 PM
hell or high water he will be....


So sayeth I....

stikman
30th August 2007, 11:08 PM
Yikes mate, lucky it could have been worse, I know that experience when my car pooped itself, though luckily I wasnt doing 100km, so you will still be right for Coffs??

Regards

Stevo

Should be all good Stevo, if all else fails i'll steal the hubs off Josh's disco :eek: ;)

Will get it down to Ricks first thing. See you down there on Saturday morning :D

harry
31st August 2007, 05:41 AM
looks like an epidem-mick of wheel bearing desease

MickG
31st August 2007, 06:45 AM
looks like an epidem-mick of wheel bearing desease

Good one Harry:D

Not good news mate and very strange given my recent wheel bearing find....with the consequences of failure whilst on the move being described excatly as just happened to you:eek:

Hope you get it sorted and make it to Coffs, keep us posted and call me if you need to.

Aye, Mick

weeds
31st August 2007, 07:46 AM
what sort of time frame since they were last serviced??

when i upgraded to maxi axles mine are now coverted to oil lubed...that remines me its been two years since i have had a look at mine, i check adjustment at every service so i'm guessing they are still in good nick if there is no movement

Camo
31st August 2007, 10:01 AM
Didn't you get maxis and locker in a few months ago?

whos the tool who fitted them?
is be ****ed

Camo

dungarover
31st August 2007, 02:51 PM
Glad you're alright, I've heaed of some horrific instances of wheel bearings ****ing themselves at speed :eek::eek::eek:

As a warning to all, wheel bearings are a neglected part of matenance, I check mine every 3-6 months to ensure there's no issues. And yes I have had this happen to me as well years ago on my first Rangie :(

Hopefully you're back on the road and on your way to Coffs as we speak. Have a good one.

Trav

Blknight.aus
31st August 2007, 06:04 PM
Quick update....

hes getting there but hes got the hassle of the different stub axles and hubs...

His disco had the narrows and the donor vehicles had the wide.....

He's hoping that theres enough meat in a maxy drive axle that the difference in the stub axle length can be absorbed and the thing will still work...

I know it can be butchered into working but the plan is if he has to slide the axle out to get the circlips to fit then its a no go deal.

Only just got off the phone with him.

stikman
31st August 2007, 08:33 PM
Pi%&ed off does not even start to describe how im feeling at the moment :mad::mad::mad::mad:

Camo, the Maxi was a complete s/h unit but the hub in question was off on Tuesday to fix a leak (work done by my mechanic who will remain nameless but rest assured i will be having a "chat" to them next week).

Got the car towed to my Mechanic this morning, first mistake.........public holiday on the Gold Coast so they were not open, so car now stuck in an empty car park. Pull the hub off and took the stub axle across the road to a mechanic that had opened only to clean up his workshop, he managed to get the welded on bearing off but the stub axle was not great as a result. Headed to Brisbane to search for parts, new stub axle and bearings in hand i headed home, pulled the bearing remains and outer race out of the hub and put the new ones in. Next mistake.......the bearing outer race had spun in the hub and expanded due to the heat so the new race was useless.......hub f%^ked too. OK, next idea......I have bits and pieces of a Rangie Front diff in the garage, could i use the hub off the front with the discs from the rear.....looks OK, goes together OK. Put it all together, drive down to the abandoned car in the car park (which is up on axle stands without a wheel) and go to put it all back together........different hub. The Rangie hub positions the bearings differently and i did not have enough thread on the stub axle, home again to get the stub axles from the front of the rangie, back to the car and put it all together. Yep, seems to go together OK, everything lines up and bolts up nicely, wheel spines no noise grinds or crunches. Drive the car the 20km home, she seems OK.....do we leave for coffs?????? will the car be OK. Just decided we would i thought i would give it a once over again.......hub is hot, others are not. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: So $550 later car is still not really drivable and we are not going to coffs :mad::mad::mad:

Thanks to DRanged and Blknight for the phone support, really appreciated.

rovercare
31st August 2007, 08:45 PM
Quick update....

hes getting there but hes got the hassle of the different stub axles and hubs...

His disco had the narrows and the donor vehicles had the wide.....

He's hoping that theres enough meat in a maxy drive axle that the difference in the stub axle length can be absorbed and the thing will still work...

I know it can be butchered into working but the plan is if he has to slide the axle out to get the circlips to fit then its a no go deal.

Only just got off the phone with him.

Don't work, PCD is different also;)

GuyG
31st August 2007, 08:50 PM
Hey Stikman

Know the feeling, car is packed, welsh plugs replaced...but that wasn't the cause of the water loss, it was the result of...blown head gasket was:mad:, have the chem weld as you mentioned but haven't as yet put it in, will be doing that probably tommorrow,

Then I didn't finish work till 8.30

Was considering going to be a passenger.

rovercare
31st August 2007, 08:53 PM
Hey Stikman

Know the feeling, car is packed, welsh plugs replaced...but that wasn't the cause of the water loss, it was the result of...blown head gasket was:mad:, have the chem weld as you mentioned but haven't as yet put it in, will be doing that probably tommorrow,

Then I didn't finish work till 8.30

Was considering going to be a passenger.

Chemi weld is for

1. ****boxes you don't care about

2. cars your are selling

3. other peoples cars

GuyG
31st August 2007, 08:55 PM
yes well my car currently falls under number 1, well maybe not quite, but kinda ticked that it wasn't picked up during the .... it missing, its using water, like i put 4 litres in 1 day...just paid to have the gearbox removed to replace the welsh plugs at the back of the engine, now to sort out the engine

rovercare
31st August 2007, 08:56 PM
yes well my car currently falls under number 1

HAHAHA, furry muff then:)

Outlaw
31st August 2007, 08:58 PM
okay so you want to try one from an '80 model tomorrow?

rovercare
31st August 2007, 09:02 PM
okay so you want to try one from an '80 model tomorrow?

Won't fit;) RR went to narrow bearings in 87 approxe, with the smaller CV's

Need to swap as a whole set

Blknight.aus
31st August 2007, 09:05 PM
Don't work, PCD is different also;)

Thats why some bright spark came up with the ARC Mig + Tig........

PCD bolts, nahh just fill em in and do a circumference weld... of course it does make the next bearing adjustment different.

rovercare
31st August 2007, 09:08 PM
Thats why some bright spark came up with the ARC Mig + Tig........

PCD bolts, nahh just fill em in and do a circumference weld... of course it does make the next bearing adjustment different.

Well it'll work:D although welding cast isn't so simple

stikman
31st August 2007, 09:17 PM
Don't work, PCD is different also;)

Whats PCD stand for? I thought is was the wheel stud distance or am i getting confused?

And its the rear not the front so CV's should not be an issue ;)

rovercare
31st August 2007, 09:24 PM
Whats PCD stand for? I thought is was the wheel stud distance or am i getting confused?

And its the rear not the front so CV's should not be an issue ;)

Pitch circle diameter, the reference to CV's was just to reference when the wheel bearings moved position (narrower), I've re-read everything 'ere and will eat my words as i was thinking you had a D1 update where the PCS was different, but on a 92 if you change the hub AND stub of an early RR you will be A O K:)

There is heaps of subtle difference in th classic RR to D1 throughout the years, but most are interchangeable in some form or another;), your wheel bearing will be likely hot as you've done them to tight or to loose, its easy to do the nut up on the bub without seating the oil seal correctly, adversely leaving the bearing to loose

Blknight.aus
31st August 2007, 09:30 PM
Well it'll work:D although welding cast isn't so simple

nahh it aint a problem, He preheated it all when he drove it :angel:

stikman
31st August 2007, 09:32 PM
Cheers, thanks for your help.

After all the sh^t today the car can stay as is until my mechanic is back next week, I'm over it :(

rovercare
31st August 2007, 09:41 PM
nahh it aint a problem, He preheated it all when he drove it :angel:

More info please, I've drank half a box of jack daniels stubbies and am crook as with the flu (otherwise it'd be MB) and can't sleep anyway, so I've got plenty of time

On a lighter note I did pick up another Rangie today

Blknight.aus
31st August 2007, 09:54 PM
More info please, I've drank half a box of jack daniels stubbies and am crook as with the flu (otherwise it'd be M and can't sleep anyway, so I've got plenty of time
sure see below


Well it'll work:D although welding cast isn't so simple

part of the reason why cast is hard to weld is it needs to be uniformly preheated prior to welding.


Drive the car the 20km home, she seems OK.....do we leave for coffs?????? will the car be OK. Just decided we would i thought i would give it a once over again.......hub is hot, others are not.

And that would take care of the preheating.

rovercare
31st August 2007, 09:58 PM
Aggh sorry, brain is a tad mushy, I thought you meant you knew someone that had actuall done, hopefully in desperation:D"I see said the blind man":angel:

I'm well aware of the difficulty's of welding cast;)

Blknight.aus
31st August 2007, 10:08 PM
Aggh sorry, brain is a tad mushy, I thought you meant you knew someone that had actuall done, hopefully in desperation:D"I see said the blind man":angel:

I'm well aware of the difficulty's of welding cast;)

funny you should say that... That would be this little black duck well Black Knight anyway...

Cracked the drive flange on a series and FWD just wasnt gunna crack it in one part of the track... Fortunately just slippery more than needing the max power thing for climbing and slogging.