Part required for 110 Isuzu

[Bigbjorn]

Does anyone have the Jideco electric motor assembly that pulls and pushes the stop cable on the injection pump of a 4BD1 fitted to a 1986 County 110? It is mounted on the engine side of the bulkhead in the top right corner inside a plastic sleeve. Land Rover part no. is AYG9697. New or used OK, or a crook one with a serviceable nylon gear inside the gearbox. The nylon gear is about 50mm diameter and is turned by a worm on the electric motor and pulls/ pushes on the stop cable. The gear in mine has stripped a few teeth.

[defenderbilby]

G'day,
I was looking for the stop switch for months and Land Rover are unable to source it. Multiple phone calls around the country and I found only one and that was with a broken cable and they wanted $200.00 and yes it was 20 years old as well!!!
I found a company that makes these, the only difference is the colour of the wiring and that the ?5 pin plug is female instead of male. It takes 5 - 10 minutes to change the wire loom from your old one.
http://www.chophockhong.com.sg/
Part number 5-81900-007-1 (MA4-113) 12V. Jedico (5 pins cable length 104cm). Cost me $190 Singapore plus delivery. Email them for update price and delivery. There was a picture of this switch on website.
You might be lucky in getting an older used one and if you do please email me with where you got it as I am after brackets for a/c and alternator on the Isuzu engine.
David.

[Bigbjorn]

Thanks, I have asked them for a quote. The picture is what I need.

[rar110]

Brian

I bought a new one at Fastair spares at albion about 3 yrs ago. They might be worth trying. I had stripped nylon teeth on the old one. I wondered whether it would be worth putting some morleys in there to stop it happening again.

peter

[EchiDna]

er cheap way is change to a stop cable in the cab?

you really need a button to push?

[Bigbjorn]

er cheap way is change to a stop cable in the cab?

you really need a button to push?

I can do that without leaving home. I have cables in stock, but past 1983, the ADR's changed to prevent the use of manual cable stops. Fitting one would make the vehicle unroadworthy so I will look for the real thingfirst.

[Bigbjorn]

Brian

I bought a new one at Fastair spares at albion about 3 yrs ago. They might be worth trying. I had stripped nylon teeth on the old one. I wondered whether it would be worth putting some morleys in there to stop it happening again.

peter

No joy from Fastair.

[andrew e]

I have a new 12v heavy duty push pull solonoid, the same as they use on the fuel rack on kabota stationary motors that you could easily adapt, it has 3 terminals, - , + and hold. It will cost you a 6 pack of bourban and coke.


Andy

[EchiDna]

I can do that without leaving home. I have cables in stock, but past 1983, the ADR's changed to prevent the use of manual cable stops. Fitting one would make the vehicle unroadworthy so I will look for the real thingfirst.

I didn't know that... I'll just keep quiet then :angel:

what's the risk in a manual cable stop verses an electric manual stop?

[D3Jon]

Brian

I bought a new one at Fastair spares at albion about 3 yrs ago. They might be worth trying. I had stripped nylon teeth on the old one. I wondered whether it would be worth putting some morleys in there to stop it happening again.

peter

Quick question... What's a Morley?

Also, could someone not make you a brass cog to replace the nylon one, e.g. a clock repairer, those guys can knock a cog out in no time!!

My 4BD1 has refused to stop a couple of times now, I suspect my electric stopper is past it's best as well, although I will first take a look at the cable lubrication.

Jon

[Bigbjorn]

I didn't know that... I'll just keep quiet then :angel:

what's the risk in a manual cable stop verses an electric manual stop?

The engine can be left "live" requiring only a bump or a push to start unattended. In the early '70's the regulations were amended to mandate a locking or ratchet stop cable or a cable that was "push in to stop" as a safety measure. Then in '83 came the ADR requiring a positive non-mechanical stop system.

[Bigbjorn]

Quick question... What's a Morley?

Also, could someone not make you a brass cog to replace the nylon one, e.g. a clock repairer, those guys can knock a cog out in no time!!

My 4BD1 has refused to stop a couple of times now, I suspect my electric stopper is past it's best as well, although I will first take a look at the cable lubrication.

Jon

I could cut a gear myself but does take a while and I would probably have to buy the requisite involute gear cutter, $120 or so.

[Bigbjorn]

Thanks to Defenderbilby for the tip. I have ordered one from Chop Hock Hong, Singapore for Sing.$190 (A$ 154) plus air-mail cost. They replied to my e-mail within 12 hours. Was quoted $820 plus GST by a Land Rover dealer in Brisbane.

[D3Jon]

Was quoted $820 plus GST by a Land Rover dealer in Brisbane.

$$$$ :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Good result then!

As mine might be on the way out, I also looked at the chophockkong web site but couldn't find that particular item from the part number quoted by Defenderbilby, has it changed or is it simply not on the web site anymore?

[Blknight.aus]

Quick question... What's a Morley?

Also, could someone not make you a brass cog to replace the nylon one, e.g. a clock repairer, those guys can knock a cog out in no time!!

My 4BD1 has refused to stop a couple of times now, I suspect my electric stopper is past it's best as well, although I will first take a look at the cable lubrication.

Jon

dont forget to allow for cable stretch/slip/slack, there is some adjustment that can be taken up.

[Phil633]

Quick question... What's a Morley?



Jon

Jon, I think he is refering to Moreys, an oil additive.

[Bigbjorn]

$$$$ :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Good result then!

As mine might be on the way out, I also looked at the chophockkong web site but couldn't find that particular item from the part number quoted by Defenderbilby, has it changed or is it simply not on the web site anymore?

You have to go to page 2 on the listing for solenoid stops and thjere it is.

[EchiDna]

hmm well I'm gonna drop by Chop Hock Hong tomorrow and see what they charge over the counter :)

will let you guys know - suggest that you hold off your purchases until I see the cash price, I might be able to get em for a lot less...

[Larns]

What the hell is "Chop Hock Hong"??

Is this some kind of cheap aisan import shop?

[rar110]

yes morley's the oil additive. The nylon cog is lubricated by a grease. In the old one that was stripped the grease was pushed out of the way and wasn't doing much at the point of the most wear.

[lokka]

hmm well I'm gonna drop by Chop Hock Hong tomorrow and see what they charge over the counter :)

will let you guys know - suggest that you hold off your purchases until I see the cash price, I might be able to get em for a lot less...


Sounds like a good plan as il be after one to fit to my engin when it goes into the rangie as its the one with the pull stop on the side of the colum in the stage 1 so will need the electric jobbie for it to pass in the rangie let me know what there worth and il be keen to buy one for sure :D:D:D:D:D

[D3Jon]

yes morley's the oil additive. The nylon cog is lubricated by a grease. In the old one that was stripped the grease was pushed out of the way and wasn't doing much at the point of the most wear.

Thanks for clearing that up, I hadn't heard of it before (I'm not long off the boat from the UK!) :D

Jon

[D3Jon]

What the hell is "Chop Hock Hong"??

Is this some kind of cheap aisan import shop?

They're an automotive electrical seller based in Singapore that defenderbilby put Brian onto:

http://www.chophockhong.com.sg/

Looks like they are one of the only places to find a new & reasonably priced electric engine stop for the Isuzu motor.

[EchiDna]

ok back from my shopping trip to chop hock hong... they are a warehouse store in an older part of singapore, a bit off the beaten track, but none the less an interesting place!

the jedico stop solenoid was S$175 (about A$140) over the counter without negotiation or buying more than one... so if you are paying more than A$150 plus shipping then it's too much and a phone call to the store would be worthwhile to ask for a quote IMHO...

[Bigbjorn]

The part arrived today. They posted it last Thursday. Very well packed. Great service and excellent price. I might have a trawl through their website for a 100 amp alternator with vacuum pump. The one on my County is only 60 amps and is marginal with everything running including the 130 watt searchlight.

[EchiDna]

Brian,
the webpage is a short summary of the stuff they carry - I have no doubt they would have an alternator to meet your requirements. Their main customer base is light truck fleet operators, so many things are 24 volt unfortunately.


any chance of some photos of the install proceedure? as hinted earlier, a PO of my 110 removed the factory unit and I've only got a pull cable....

[OLR-067]

This is a great thread guys....I'm in need of one now...

Cheers
Paul

[isuzurover]

When I first bought my 110 I had lots of trouble with this solenoid. However it turned out to be a bad connection.

[Blknight.aus]

brian, dont forget to unbodge the wiring that I adapted to make your old one work.

hows the gearbox going, the 30/30 warrentys out of duration by now...