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Studio54
18th September 2007, 12:29 AM
A wealthy but bored friend of mine has decided to drive from Perth to Paris in starting out in 2009.

Anyway, he has a D3 but is now talking about selling it to buy an 80 series landcruiser for the job. Less electrics blah blah etc etc.

I need some persuasive amunition to keep him on the LR trail.

What sort of LR would be best for this, I would suggest late 90's Defender Dual cab utes but keep in mind the wives are suppose to be going as well so comfort will be high on the agenda.

Would the D3 be up to it?

DirtyDawg
18th September 2007, 06:13 AM
Very Ballsy Move......
To Avoid the middle eastern, Pakistan, Afgahnistan route would be interested and a singular vehicle will catch the attention of some nasty dudes..

A D3 owner that finds it so unreliable because of electrickery..unusual:D:D
He is probably better off with a HJZ75 troopy as the Taliban love them so there would be heaps of parts scattered along the route ( compliments of A-10's):D:D

An interesting trip would be via SE asia, China,Siberia then across the Old USSR to europe,

JohnE
18th September 2007, 07:56 AM
Nothing wrong with his decision if he isn't confident in the landrover electrics so be it, why push him towards L/R if a cruiser would easier to repair in a remote place.
A L/R isn't the b all to end all.

After all he is proposing the trip and i guess it it his safety he is thinking of.


my 5 cents worth.


john

kaa45
18th September 2007, 08:09 AM
Nothing wrong with his decision if he isn't confident in the landrover electrics so be it, why push him towards L/R if a cruiser would easier to repair in a remote place.
A L/R isn't the b all to end all.

After all he is proposing the trip and i guess it it his safety he is thinking of.


my 5 cents worth.


john

Has anyone done a trip like this in a Toyo? Lots of Landies have done it. Just get one without electronics

wovenrovings
18th September 2007, 08:12 AM
For what my dad has said about russian countries there doesn't seem to be either Landcruisers or Landrovers much at all there so if those countries are going to be visited it doesn't matter which you have as far as parts availability. I guess just stick with what you know. A lot of those places i would have thought range would be useful. Just my thoughts.

PAT303
18th September 2007, 08:17 AM
The brits do it all the time.Spending months driving over third rate roads in a troopy is not my idea of fun.Tell him to buy a 'fender 96-98 TDI do a major service,new clutch ,brakes tyres and go for it.A D3 would be a mistake as it shows he has money and thats not what you won't people to now in some circles.I wish I had that type of money,I'd take my old girl no worries. Pat

gghaggis
18th September 2007, 10:24 AM
I'm sure a well serviced and prepared D3 would have no dramas, but as has been mentioned, depending on the route taken, I wouldn't do it in a D3 alone - it would attract quite a bit of (perhaps unwanted) attention.

A TDI 110 would have no trouble - they're used all the time in Africa.

Cheers,

Gordon

Redback
18th September 2007, 11:07 AM
Make sure he has a good snorkle, that first 1000ks might be a bit wet:wasntme:

scrambler
18th September 2007, 11:50 AM
A couple of question -

How many wives? I'm guessing that the plural also implies multiple husbands, therefore multiple vehicles. I'd think that two identical vehicles means automatic spares if absolutely necessary and less to parts to carry.

Where are they shipping to? Africa or Asia? If Africa - I'd go the Troopy over a D3 and a Defender is a good option as well. If going across Asia, think about getting some more local information. Toyotas are rare in Europe, esp commercial versions.

loanrangie
18th September 2007, 12:16 PM
For what my dad has said about russian countries there doesn't seem to be either Landcruisers or Landrovers much at all there so if those countries are going to be visited it doesn't matter which you have as far as parts availability. I guess just stick with what you know. A lot of those places i would have thought range would be useful. Just my thoughts.

You cant get much in a Lada though :p

kie4
18th September 2007, 05:59 PM
I serviced a 130 defender camper a while ago in Perth that I helped build in the UK, it was drived from the uk to Perth and the only fault that occured was a hub seal. It was a 300tdi so no electrics to worry about.

Studio54
18th September 2007, 11:54 PM
How long do we wait before we banish the gent who suggested LR's are not the be all and end all of 4WD's. :)

There will be multiple vehicles and they all intend on buying the same thing, shipping to Asia from NT.

spudboy
19th September 2007, 08:49 AM
Tell him to check out these sites. They are mostly Land Rover 'expeditions' and mostly via Africa, but similar issues will arise which ever direction he takes.

Most common vehicle is a 110 with a TDi300, but a few 130's as well.

http://www.hectorsadventures.com/vehicle.htm

http://www.expedition.50megs.com/index.htm

http://www.url.co.nz/african_trip/

http://www.kusafiri.net/index.html

http://www.exfoleyation.co.uk/home.htm

http://landy-rtw.com/preparation/thecar/

http://www.beastlyadventure.com/ (101 FC)

http://www.whitecottagewebsites.co.uk/africa/vehicle.html

http://www.hereandthereinafrica.co.uk/landy.htm

http://www.africa-overland.piczo.com/?cr=6&rfm=y

There dozens and dozens of sites like this.

And this one, in a Troopy:
http://www.geocities.com/gkingsmill/

Quiggers
19th September 2007, 09:11 AM
Funnily enough, when I was in Sydney last week there was 'cruiser at the OL shop at Rockdale.

The owner bought new, got OL to kit it out and drove it to London, before having it shipped back to Aussie.

Amazing what people do!

GQ