Not what you want to find in your garden....

[jik22]

4196

Happy to report it's now far away from us after being caught....

Had I lived in the middle of nowhere, it'd have met the 12 gauge, so it's just as lucky as we are, I think. :D

[LandyAndy]

You obviously have a swamp nearby Jeff.
Nice tiger!!!!
They are just coming out,the boys at work found a big Dugite today.
They are at their most venemous at the moment just coming out of hibernation!!!
Tell the girls to beware,Im sure I heard the screams from down here:D:D:D:D
Andrew

[sclarke]

Or hanging from your bull nose veranda..........

[TuffRR]

They are at their most venemous at the moment just coming out of hibernation!!!


Apparently not true. Studies have been done recently which shows that they are more venomous later in the season.

Either way, I'm not planning on getting bitten regardless of the time of year.

[jik22]

You obviously have a swamp nearby Jeff.

Tell the girls to beware,Im sure I heard the screams from down here:D:D:D:D
Andrew

Yep, lake just round the corner.....with big warning signs about them everywhere, but this was the first I've seen. Not used to snakes in England - think I'd seen one grass snake my entire life. :)

My youngest was standing on a chair until it was caught......inside the house. :D

[JDNSW]

....

My youngest was standing on a chair until it was caught......inside the house. :D


What was inside the house? Where he was on the chair or where the snake was caught?

John

PS couple of summers ago one turned up a the house here while the grandkids were here. It had an accident.

John

[landyfromanuthaland]

u could have spanked it with a shovel, we are just starting to see snakes down our stables now, bloody red bellied things, hate snakes

[jik22]

What was inside the house? Where he was on the chair or where the snake was caught?


John

That's just it - snake was outside, she was inside, and she was still so scared she felt the need to get up on the chair and stay there until it was caught. :D

[LandyAndy]

Hey Jeff
Im sure Elaine is well aware of snakes,especially that 1 eyed trouser snake that keeps chasing her:D:D:D:D
Andrew

[jik22]

Hey Jeff
Im sure Elaine is well aware of snakes,especially that 1 eyed trouser snake that keeps chasing her:D:D:D:D
Andrew

Who says she's not the one chasing it? You can always ask her if you're feeling brave! ;)

[CraigE]

Aww. Aint he a pretty little fella.:p

[JohnE]

u could have spanked it with a shovel, we are just starting to see snakes down our stables now, bloody red bellied things, hate snakes


Look after the red bellies, they don't like to stick around people are more timid, wish I had a few around here to control the brown snakes. But alas frogs are on there diet list and they don't know cane toads will kill them, henceforth no black snakes lots of brown snakes and cane toads everywhere.
The last dog attacking brown i found near the house died of 12g itis.


john

[tombraider]

u could have spanked it with a shovel, we are just starting to see snakes down our stables now, bloody red bellied things, hate snakes

Good way to get bitten mate!

Most snake bites are from people trying to kill snakes...

BTW, Guys... Paintball Guns will kill the things.... Couple of shots into the back breaks it...

[Slunnie]

Look after the red bellies, they don't like to stick around people are more timid, wish I had a few around here to control the brown snakes. But alas frogs are on there diet list and they don't know cane toads will kill them, henceforth no black snakes lots of brown snakes and cane toads everywhere.
The last dog attacking brown i found near the house died of 12g itis.


john
I'd take the red bellies over a brown etc anyday also. Its fascinating watching them hunt. This said, no snakes are even better, especially for the animals.

[p38arover]

4196

Happy to report it's now far away from us after being caught....

Had I lived in the middle of nowhere, it'd have met the 12 gauge, so it's just as lucky as we are, I think. :D

It's just a baby! I'd be more scared of the shotgun!

Ron

[incisor]

the red bellies are fine compared to some of the others..

them plain black ones are the ones to watch, and the rough scaled and swamp tigers, not to mention king browns, they can be very agressive mongrels and will chase you down ...

i hate snakes but wont go out of my way to kill them as a general rule.

[jik22]

Good way to get bitten mate!

Most snake bites are from people trying to kill snakes...


The guy that came and caught it for us said exactly that - and that Tiger snakes aren't aggressive and only bite when threatened. His is a job I wouldn't want for any money! ;)

Couldn't have got near it with a shovel/stick/gun anyway as it was half under a fence in a corner....best left to those who know what they're doing, I thought.

[olbod]

No doubt about it tho, they are beautiful creatures.
We get them passing thru here quite often. I dont usually mind because if you just exchange a G'day with
them they will move on.
Occasionally we get a Taipan or a Brown tho, they are the buggers that I take too with a shovel.
The long handle basher is by the back door all year round. Hate to do it but they are just too dangerous
and their eyes are too close together to be trusted, eh.

[jik22]

Occasionally we get a Taipan or a Brown tho, they are the buggers that I take too with a shovel.


Yeah, I was watching something about them on the TV the other day - glad we don't have either on the West coast, as they are supposed to be as aggressive as hell and strike multiple times. Bloody hate snakes.

[Redback]

Yeah, I was watching something about them on the TV the other day - glad we don't have either on the West coast, as they are supposed to be as aggressive as hell and strike multiple times. Bloody hate snakes.

I'm afraid you do, brown snakes are very commom on the West coast, hence their name the western brown snake, are sometimes called/mistaken for a Dugite because they are the same species and are found west of Ceduna
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[jik22]

I'm afraid you do, brown snakes are very commom on the West coast, hence their name the western brown snake, are sometimes called/mistaken for a Dugite because they are the same species and are found west of Ceduna
http://www.venomsupplies.com/dangeroussnakesofsa/pnuchalis1.jpg

Ah, had only heard of the Eastern Brown. Didn't know we had a similar one....but that said, any snake I come across gets a wide berth. :D

[googe]

Got this pic off my dad i think he said it was somewere in northwest NSW,its got a sheep in its guts and stuck in a electric fence.

Greg

:burnrubber:☠

[Lotz-A-Landies]

u could have spanked it with a shovel, we are just starting to see snakes down our stables now, bloody red bellied things, hate snakes
The red bellied ones are nice! We have them in our hay shed, you pick up a bail and they will be underneath, we just put the bail back down and let them be. They keep the mice population in check. :):):)

The really good thing is that they are territorial and seem to keep the browns and tigers away. Hate browns and tigers, :rocket: far too agressive for me!

Diana

[p38arover]

Got this pic off my dad i think he said it was somewere in northwest NSW,its got a sheep in its guts and stuck in a electric fence.

Africa, I believe.

Ron

[Barra1]

This thread brings back memories of Steve Irwin.....I recall an episode where he was handling a "Fierce Snake" out the back of Qld. He said these snakes were especially shy .... but very dangerous, in fact much more dangerous than the other snakes mentioned.

Hard to believe it has been a year.:(

[Lotz-A-Landies]

One thing I forgot to mention. Snakes are protected, you aren't supposed to shoot or hit them with a shovel! :mad::mad:

We were on a trip some years ago and while driving along saw a snake crossing the road. Most of us just kept driving past, one lunatic in the group decided that it was his responsibility to dispense the serpent to wherever serpents go in the afterlife. So aimed his front drivers wheel towards the reptile and braked hard to sever the head from the tail. Most of us were shocked, if we even knew why the dust was billowing up. Nothing was said.

The next morning when this bloke went to his garage there was a brown snake sunning itself on his driveway. The snake had been thrown up around his front axle and he carried it all the way home. Pity it didn't bite him on the bum for being an idiot.

Diana

[Bushwanderer]

The guy that came and caught it for us said exactly that - and that Tiger snakes aren't aggressive and only bite when threatened. His is a job I wouldn't want for any money! ;)

Couldn't have got near it with a shovel/stick/gun anyway as it was half under a fence in a corner....best left to those who know what they're doing, I thought.


That's interesting! I've always been given to believe that tiger snakes WERE aggressive. (Not that it matters much, I don't plan on confronting one.)

[Bushwanderer]

Got this pic off my dad i think he said it was somewere in northwest NSW,its got a sheep in its guts and stuck in a electric fence.

Greg

:burnrubber:☠

Hi Greg,
I don't recognise what type of snake that is. Is it a carpet snake?

[Lotz-A-Landies]

That's interesting! I've always been given to believe that tiger snakes WERE aggressive. (Not that it matters much, I don't plan on confronting one.)
I know that browns are very agressive and will attack even if not cornered, just if you are near them (several metres being near). I have seen tigers coming out of the grass to attack, perhaps there was a nest or something, but have never seen a red bellied black attack even when you are standing over them. (with a bail of hay)

Diana

[Chenz]

Originally Posted by jik22 https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/08/768.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/showthread.php?p=605695#post605695)
The guy that came and caught it for us said exactly that - and that Tiger snakes aren't aggressive and only bite when threatened. His is a job I wouldn't want for any money! ;)

Couldn't have got near it with a shovel/stick/gun anyway as it was half under a fence in a corner....best left to those who know what they're doing, I thought.

I used to do a lot of trout fishing in the Fish River around Oberon in summer and believe me the Tigers are aggressive little buggers.

One day I was out on a rock which protruded into a large pond and had a few casts. I turned around to move up the pool and there on the rock was a Tiger who started towards me and struck at my waders narrowly missing. This was one of many times I had run ins with Tigers. Red Bellies run the other way but those striped buggers just want to stand and fight.

[Stepho_62]

This thing came tearing past my wife the other day while she was reading a book around the pool. :eek: He was in hot pursuit of a lizard.:o

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Bushwanderer]

I know that browns are very agressive and will attack even if not cornered, just if you are near them (several metres being near). I have seen tigers coming out of the grass to attack, perhaps there was a nest or something, but have never seen a red bellied black attack even when you are standing over them. (with a bail of hay)

Diana


I'm with you Diana. Red-bellied blacks are pussycats - Nah, heaps better.:):):)

[Relay]

Personally I dont mind snakes, most kinds dont bother me at all and some I find quite beautiful. Being that I live in the bush they're a part of life. Mind you, we maintain a 5m rule. If a snake comes within 5m of my dwellings it runs the risk of being permanently removed. This is most often based on the snake. No matter what sort it is, if it leaves when asked, normally via a polite broomstick, I dont worry. If it persists...I call dad. He has the keys.

[Studio54]

Yep, lake just round the corner.....with big warning signs about them everywhere, but this was the first I've seen. Not used to snakes in England - think I'd seen one grass snake my entire life. :)

My youngest was standing on a chair until it was caught......inside the house. :D

Dont worry , I have also lived between the two countries and the most common misonception is that we have to reluctantly coexist next to the worlds most dangerous creatures on daily basis....just not true, Ive seen three snakes my entire life, probably a couple of dozen red backs and never seen a shark.

Of course you could play it up a little, the in laws may never come out, hopefully. :)

[rovercare]

You know when you shoot a Tiger that's big and fat with a 12gauge, lots of little tigers come out:eek:, they have live young;)

Same deal, no fear of them, but I like my dogs to much, so if they're hanging around......:o

[LandyAndy]

Sorry Jeff
Tiger Snakes are very agressive!!!
I was on the Vibe roller and saw one cross the road up ahead.
Thought I wouldnt mind chasing it and squashing it,but too far away and the roller too slow.
As I got closer the 7 foot Tiger came back to attack the roller,head a foot off the ground in the strike position.
Next revolution of the drum had a snake imprinted.:cool::cool::cool::cool:
The guy on the water truck witnessed it and comented what an angry snake it was!!!
Andrew

[CraigE]

Tiger snakes if provoked will become agressive, but it rare for them to become so if not provoked as with most snakes. The Taipan on the other hand will attack for no reason. Brown snakes are the most common throughout Australia.
King Browns are also called Mulga Snakes.
Western Browns are also called Gwardars.
This explains why some have not heard them called Browns.
Dugites are highly venomous but rarely agressive. They are generally light to dark brown with a black head as juveniles with the black head fading as they get older. There is blieved to have been some cross breeding in SW WA between Dugites and Browns.
95% of snake bites are by people trying to kill or pick them up. And I have to do a snake handlers course soon.:(

[Phil633]

Came across a snake on a track in Cape Arid National Park a few years ago, never was sure what type it was, but I am sure someone here will know. Is it a Dugite?

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/09/131.jpg

[Captain_Rightfoot]

I went to a talk on snakes Thursday, and the guy said the king brown was in fact more closely related to the black snake. He said it was a bad name and they were really a black snake.

[easo]

When I was just a tank driver, we just finished a battle run in MT Bundy and pulled up for a halt parade, as I went to climb down from the tank and put my foot down there was a rather angry snake with his tail under 44tons of steel.

On another battle run in Shoal Water Bay the tank in fronts driver was seen bailing out over the side while the tank was still in 40kph of motion. Turned out as they cliped a tree a snake was ejected from the tree into his lap and he wasen't hanging around for introductions. They never found the snake until the turret was lifted off a few mounths later.

Cheers Easo

[CraigE]

looks like a Dugite.

Came across a snake on a track in Cape Arid National Park a few years ago, never was sure what type it was, but I am sure someone here will know. Is it a Dugite?

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/09/131.jpg

[Bushie]

Got this pic off my dad i think he said it was somewere in northwest NSW,its got a sheep in its guts and stuck in a electric fence.

Greg

:burnrubber:☠

Hate to burst the balloon but,.......................

African Rock Python

http://www.bushveld.co.za/pictures-python.htm


Martyn

[Bushie]

Now this one was a real threat!!!!!!!!!!

Caught it crossing the office foyer

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/09/119.jpg

And thats a full size office wastepaper bin. :D:D



Martyn

[Lotz-A-Landies]

No thats right Diana. In the bush I have almost stepped on a sleeping red bellied black. It just looked at me and I just stepped over it and went on my way :D

The red bellied ones are nice! We have them in our hay shed, you pick up a bail and they will be underneath, we just put the bail back down and let them be. They keep the mice population in check. :):):)


but have never seen a red bellied black attack even when you are standing over them. (with a bail of hay)
Isn't that what I said???

Diana

[jik22]

Was the only time I have ever used the .22... 4 shots to get the thing...the first one went straight thru his neck...and didn't that make him angry :mad: But Mr 22 and I had the upper hand


Hmm...a snake with a .22 - rather you than me. That's what bloody big shotguns are for. ;)

[cartm58]

see this snake pulling a dead roo from water pond take somewhere in Kimberley region WA

[Relay]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/09/119.jpg


It's gorgeous...

Okay...that's my outburst for the day.

[shorty943]

Like the file name says. On the sink.jpg.

I came in from shopping, put the ecco friendly shopping bags on the sink, and came back down from the ceiling when my heart had calmed down.:)

My trusty walking stick got him. Whack whack, real fast. He never knew what hit him.
Snakes are Okay outside where they belong, but, not in my kitchen.

[p38arover]

We were on a trip some years ago and while driving along saw a snake crossing the road. Most of us just kept driving past,

We've come across them sunning themselves on the tracks, too. We just drive around them and leave them be.

Ron

[p38arover]

Dont worry , I have also lived between the two countries and the most common misonception is that we have to reluctantly coexist next to the worlds most dangerous creatures on daily basis....just not true, Ive seen three snakes my entire life, probably a couple of dozen red backs and never seen a shark.

Seen plenty of snakes. When I was a kid down at Hume Weir in the mid-Fifites, dad was often called upon to collect snakes that were in the backyards - I seem to recall they were often tigers. Also saw a lot as a kid when we used to run around and [play in the bush. Since I've become an adult, the frequency of seeing them has diminsihed. I saw a few inside the buildings when I worked at Ceduna (black) and Carnarvon (dugites). Also seen a few sea snakes when diving.

Redbacks - crikey, too many to even consider counting but never a funnelweb in the wild, only reptile parks, etc.

Sharks? Only when diving and only non-aggressive ones.

Ron

[CraigE]

Now thats a goodly sized Python.
:o:o

see this snake pulling a dead roo from water pond take somewhere in Kimberley region WA

[easo]

see this snake pulling a dead roo from water pond take somewhere in Kimberley region WA

Bugger, he'd blend in realy well with those rocks.

[DirtyDawg]

Out of the world top 25 venomous snakes we have 21 of them..
Your lucky Jeff "Western Tigers" can be very aggressive and deadly I don't know who took the picture but I'm surprised being cornered like that it did'nt make a run for the photographer..I hope you and your family are aware of current snake bite first aid..if not PM me.
I come across 3 or 4 every year on my job and protected or not my long handled shovel or Trowel takes the bitey bit away from the body:cool: They are deadly and I treat them with the respect they deserve.

[crump]

Out of the world top 25 venomous snakes we have 21 of them..
Your lucky Jeff "Western Tigers" can be very aggressive and deadly I don't know who took the picture but I'm surprised being cornered like that it did'nt make a run for the photographer..I hope you and your family are aware of current snake bite first aid..if not PM me.
I come across 3 or 4 every year on my job and protected or not my long handled shovel or Trowel takes the bitey bit away from the body:cool: They are deadly and I treat them with the respect they deserve.

we also have an average of 5 snake bite fatalities per year, most of them drunk yobbos or proffessional handlers, more people die from bee stings and a lot more from horses. The whole snake thing is overated, it is a hangover from our colonial and biblical past (the evil serpent), our fear of snakes is irrational and heriditary, if your terrified of them I bet your parents were to.I would be interested to know how many of us on the site actually have been bitten and hospitalised or even know someone that has, so why the paranoia??? They are a part of the landscape and every one you kill just creates a new ecological niche for the next one to slide into, a waste of time and you put yourself at unnecessary risk.I think we should all recognise them as part of living in this country and get over the ridiculous Irwinesque hype about how dangerous they are.My 2c worth.

[p38arover]

if your terrified of them I bet your parents were to.

As noted earlier, my father used to catch them so I'm not terrified but I treat them with the respect they deserve. Certainly I wouldn't pick one up unless assured by an expert that the snake was harmless

The only snakes my children and I have handled have been pythons and other non-venomous species - they have such a lovely feel.

I remember the horror some people expressed when they saw pics of my kids (then 12 and 6 yo) with a python draped around their shoulders and arms - and even greater horror at the pic of my 6-yo near a sea snake on the beach.

Most snakes, like most sharks, are beautiful creatures - and I mean visually.

Ron

[MacMan]

they can be very agressive mongrels and will chase you down ...

This "chase" thing is bit of a myth.

Plenty of people will tell you about old Farmer Brown who was chased from one side of a paddock to the other but it's not really possible.

Snakes are profoundly stupid and they DON'T know what humans are any more than they know calculus. They can be aggressive but they are NOT malicious. They see movement and react to it in one of two ways.

Small movement = food.

Big movement = threat.

I used to be snake phobic but that was resolved when I was lucky enough to meet a snake handler who handled browns, tigers, copperheads and red bellied blacks on the floor of a community hall IN BARE FEET.

He demonstrated something very interesting with one of the bigger nasties to prove that snakes are stupid. Holding it by the tail he gave it a few complete rotations, put it on the ground and froze. He had arched his foot so that his big toe and heel were the only bits touching the ground. The snake wasn't happy but it merely slithered along to try and hide under his foot.

His words of advice if you see ANY kind of snake? As soon as you see it, FREEZE. If you are not moving you don't register as anything more than a part of the landscape. If you have spooked the snake it will move on. It might take 2 minutes to happen, but it will happen. If not, just look to move anywhere the snake isn't.

He also said that one of the best ways to get bitten is to try to move or kill a snake.

Never actually had to kill a snake, but I used to be of the "terminate with extreme prejudice" mindset. Now I am happy to leave them be.

[p38arover]

Never actually had to kill a snake, but I used to be of the "terminate with extreme prejudice" mindset. Now I am happy to leave them be.

I've never had to kill one but, in the past, I have. Now I'm of the same opinion as you, I leave them be.

However, we don't get them in our backyard.

Ron

[crump]

as to the chase myth, top speedster in the Aussie snake community is the Black Whip Snake, around 7kmh flat out,if he chased you you would outrun him at fast walking pace.

[Bush65]

I used to do a lot of trout fishing in the Fish River around Oberon in summer and believe me the Tigers are aggressive little buggers...
Apart from the reptile park, the most snakes I've seen in a morning was while fishing along the Fish River near Honeysuckle Falls. And nastie types too.

It was lousy with them. My mate went back to the camp site and didn't fish any more that weekend.

I've heard that ducks and geese keep snakes away from the house. Can anyone substantiate, or add to that.

[crump]

as with most poultry they will attract mice, which will in turn attract snakes, another fallacy.

[Mick-Kelly]

Me (in the grey shirt) playing catch the sleepy pythons down in Mt Barney gorge many years and kilos ago. I used to catch brown snakes as well and bring them home in buckets. Biggest ive ever seen was an olive python out in the Isa. He crawled into the catching bag by himself easiest one ive ever caught he would have gone 2.5 metres.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/09/94.jpg