Essential Kit

[leeds]

Hi Folks, I am now seriously beginning to think about getting my 110 ready for shipping out to Oz from the UK for a 6 months trip.

It is reasonably well equipped for Scandinavia and Europe trips, BUT what is right for long trips in Europe is not necessarily right for Australia.


So what would you suggest is essential for a 110 to do some of your long tracks out in Australia

Regards


Brendan

[Zute]

Long range fuel tanks. Water tanks. Two spare tyres. Steel bull bar (ARB )
Spares: Radiator hoses(fit new ones and keep old ones as spare if in good condition.)
Fan belts.
Spare filters.
Spare shocks and bushes.
Snatch strap, tow rope, rated shackles.
Tarp for covering radiator grill. and lieing on.
UHF radio, Sat phone, emergency beacon.
Hat with corks(must have):angel:
Blue Cattle dog.
Hemi Maps.
Tools.

[Blknight.aus]

in addition to that ^^ lot


tubes for the wheels
air compressor
chains
rope
food
puncture kit
hi lift jack
exhaust bag jack
tyrepliers
First aid kit

more water (at least 5l per person per day)

[weeds]

I did the simpson desert 2 years ago and had the following setup, each to there own but I think it was a good balance, I did the desert in three days and this is what I had on board leaving birdsville

- well serviced rig
- six brand new tyres on rims
- 2 tubes
- puncture repair kit
- uhf radio
- sat phone
- spare parts kits for a local repairer (clutch master kit was handy)
- engine oil and diff oil and brake fluid
- tool bag
- long rang fuel tank 120L (only used approx 80L)
- two jerries diesel
- one water jerry
- 72L water tank
- food for 12 days
- beer
- hi lift jack
- bull dar
- roof rack
- awaning off the side of the roof rack (real handy)if I had the $$$ a hanibal self supporting awaning wouild be the go... No poles or ropes
- long handled shovel
- compressor
- self recovery??? No winch or hand winch on boardN travelling by myself I probably should have had either one, I have twin diff locks not used bit would be handy on some situations

PM camellandy he brought his 110 over from the UK

[DirtyDawg]

Lots of Water Lots of fuel, Sat Phone, EPIRB and GPS..
We lose tourists all the time up the Northwest..even Bear Grylls (Man vs Wild) had to drink his own pizz here and that was in the wet season:D:D:D

[Vern]

beer fridge:p

[leeds]

Hi Folks, thank for your input.

My 110 is pretty well set up for Europe long trips. It is equipped with 2 spares,full underbody protection, front and rear Warn winches, larger intercooler, Engel fidge and normally carry a reasonably comprehensive spares kit. Must admit here I am a mechanical numpity BUT the 110 is well maintained and serviced by a competent 4 x 4 garage.


Anyway a few questions.

Please assume the longest trail in Aus

How much fuel to carry

How much water for 2 people

Exhaust bag jack?

What is EPRIB?

UHF Radio and sat phone. Buy or rent and if so who from? Web addresses useful

Why a tarp for covering radiator

What is the best GPS system to use?

I am sure I will have lots more questions to ask. Hope they do not appear to trival, but I believe in using other peoples experience


Regards


Leeds

[JDNSW]

It depends where you are talking about in Australia, and the suggestions above are pretty good. Major points are:-

1. Distances between towns are far greater than anywhere in Europe - range is essential, and particularly in sand the fuel consumption will be a lot higher than you expect.

2. In many places, particularly in summer your survival time without water is less than 24hours. This is not a joke! Broken down or bogged travellers have and do die. It is absolutely essential to carry plenty of water.

3. It gets a lot hotter and is more consistently hot than
anywhere in Europe. While not essential, good working airconditioning makes life more comfortable.

4. In many parts of Australia, even on the bitumen (and even IN the national capital), kangaroos are a serious hazard, and a strong bullbar is a very good idea.

5. Any mechanical problems may find you a couple of thousand kilometres from the nearest dealer, and nearly as far from anyone who is prepared to lay a spanner on a Landrover, so you need to ensure that your vehicle is in top condition, and you have the tools and parts to deal with any likely problems, as mentioned by others. Be as self sufficient as possible, any breakdown is likely to be a long way from help, and it may be a long time before anyone comes past.

6. In most of the country your mobile phone won't work. The alternatives are either a satellite phone (or HF radio), or have a detailed plan and timetable you leave with someone trustworthy to raise the alarm when you disappear - and stick to it. In either case a locator beacon is a good idea.

7. Carrying adequate water is essential. Carrying food is also a good idea, although most people these days could go a few weeks without food and be the better for it. A refrigerator is useful, but not essential, and needs a lot of extra gear to keep it going if stopping more than overnight. Particularly if you have a refrigerator, but a good idea even if you don't, is either a dual battery setup or a small portable generator for battery charging (or both).

Hope all this helps, and emphasising again the need to carry water.

John

[weeds]

GPS..

oops had one of these as well


beer fridge:p

had two fridges with 5 x 30 packs packed

[weeds]

see comments in red


Hi Folks, thank for your input.

My 110 is pretty well set up for Europe long trips. It is equipped with 2 spares,full underbody protection, front and rear Warn winches, larger intercooler, Engel fidge and normally carry a reasonably comprehensive spares kit. Must admit here I am a mechanical numpity BUT the 110 is well maintained and serviced by a competent 4 x 4 garage.


Anyway a few questions.

Please assume the longest trail in Aus grab a map of aus and give us an idea of what tracks you plan to do

How much fuel to carry the longest tracks here you need to arrange fuel drops

How much water for 2 people you can never have two much, once again depends which track you take

Exhaust bag jack? this would be last on my list to purchase http://www.bushranger.com.au/exhaust_jack.php

What is EPRIB? real handy for when the ***** hits the fan, last resort only http://www.gme.net.au/marine/PDFs/EPIRB_fact_sheet.pdf (http://www.gme.net.au/marine/PDFs/EPIRB_fact_sheet.pdf)

UHF Radio and sat phone. Buy or rent and if so who from? Web addresses useful you can hire a sat phone http://www.landwide.com.au/hire_telstra_mobile_sat_rental.asp might be cheaper to buy one at those rates...probably best buying a uhf http://www.gme.net.au/land/transceivers/tx3220.php i have one of these, does the job..i have a 6db antenna

Why a tarp for covering radiator water crossings, can also be used under a swag, wind break, shade, handy for working under the car

What is the best GPS system to use? i brought a basic garmin etrex $150 to use with maps (if you decide to do the simpson you get a map as part of your desert parks pass)

I am sure I will have lots more questions to ask. Hope they do not appear to trival, but I believe in using other peoples experience ask away


Regards


Leeds

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Please assume the longest trail in Aus


Regards


Leeds


This is a good question!!

any nominations?

[leeds]

This is a good question!!

any nominations?

Be gentle with me. Remember I am a Pom :D



At the moment the actual route is very loosely defined. So forgive me if I am a bit vague about route. The route will have the Australian coastlines as its boundaries.

Regards

Leeds

[barryj]

I did the simpson desert 2 years ago and had the following setup, each to there own but I think it was a good balance, I did the desert in three days and this is what I had on board leaving birdsville

- well serviced rig
- six brand new tyres on rims
- 2 tubes
- puncture repair kit
- uhf radio
- sat phone
- spare parts kits for a local repairer (clutch master kit was handy)
- engine oil and diff oil and brake fluid
- tool bag
- long rang fuel tank 120L (only used approx 80L)
- two jerries diesel
- one water jerry
- 72L water tank
- food for 12 days
- beer
- hi lift jack
- bull dar
- roof rack
- awaning off the side of the roof rack (real handy)if I had the $$$ a hanibal self supporting awaning wouild be the go... No poles or ropes
- long handled shovel
- compressor
- self recovery??? No winch or hand winch on boardN travelling by myself I probably should have had either one, I have twin diff locks not used bit would be handy on some situations

PM camellandy he brought his 110 over from the UK


And where would the mechanic sit :rolleyes:?

[cookiesa]

A comprehensive first aid kit and either the skills or a reference book fo using it.

The EPIRB (Emergency Positioning Indicator Radio Beacon) transmits a radio frequency which can be picked up by all commercial aircraft and used to locate you. Only for use when life is in immediate danger. It alerts rescuers that you need immediate assistance and roughly where you are, locating the position and actually finding you can still take several hours depending on where you are.

Be aware that in Australia there are 2 types currently being sold and depending on when you plan to travel the old system may no longer be in use. It is being phased out and replaced with a satelite version which will be more accurate, faster and has the ability to give rescuers more information about what/who they are looking for. (These need to be registered with your details)

However keep in mind neither of these offer two way communication they are purely a last resort to allow emergency services to find you.

If you back these up with a UHF then chances are (I am sure someone will correct me if wrong) in the event of a flyover from searches you may be able to establish communications and advise them of exactly what assistance is required.

These save lives but be aware a massive search and rescue effort will be undertaken and depending on why it was activated you can be charged for misuse and costs.

NO 1 RULE DO NOT LEAVE THE VEHICLE, searches in outback area's are almost exclusively done by air and it is very hard to find someone, much easier to find a vehicle especially if you have stayed on the track. An emergency V distress sheet is also worth carrying to strap to the roof or lay on the ground, (same as used by boaties) highly visable from the air.

Another item (ideally a couple of medium sized ones) is fire extinguishers, a vehicle fire can take out all your emergency gear very quickly and does happen regularly. Also worth thinking about when you pack is how easily/quickly you can grab your epirb/sat phone and some water if the worst happens.

Also maybe consider where ever possible to hook up with others so your not travelling alone.

[JDNSW]

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If you back these up with a UHF then chances are (I am sure someone will correct me if wrong) in the event of a flyover from searches you may be able to establish communications and advise them of exactly what assistance is required........


May is about right. Some, but very few*, aircraft are equipped with UHF, and while contact may sometimes be possible don't plan on it.

John

* In my experience most ultralights have UHF, but these are exactly NOT the class of aircraft likely to be used in searches.

And a note on EPIRBs - developed originally to locate downed pilots in Vietnam, they transmit on emergency civil (121.5) and military (243) frequencies. These frequencies are monitored by all commercial aircraft, but also by satellites that can pinpoint the transmission reasonably well. The satellites are being decommissioned as the EPIRBS are being replaced by a newer type (operating on an exclusive frequency), that is more frequency stable and hence can be located much more accurately by a new generation of satellites. As mentioned, they also transmit a unique code, and all are supposed to be registered to the user, so it is known who is missing. But the older type will still be detected and can be located by aircraft, as the emergency frequencies have not changed.

[cookiesa]

"But the oder type will still be detected and can be located by aircraft, as the emergency frequencies have not changed."

Well and good for "locating" you but they have to know it has been activated first.

When talking about remote travel you are then relying on being under a flight path and so not 100% coverage, as a fallback for a life threatening situation I personally wouldn't want to trust my families lives to a maybe. Great as a back up, bit like the older AM CB units if you have got it it is worth a shot but you don't rely on it being able to get you help.

kinda defeats the purpose for carrying one for me.

If you travel only close to cities then maybe.... But they are being phased out anyway so why bother buying one new when a new, better system can be used.

[JDNSW]

"But the oder type will still be detected and can be located by aircraft, as the emergency frequencies have not changed."

Well and good for "locating" you but they have to know it has been activated first.

When talking about remote travel you are then relying on being under a flight path and so not 100% coverage, as a fallback for a life threatening situation I personally wouldn't want to trust my families lives to a maybe. Great as a back up, bit like the older AM CB units if you have got it it is worth a shot but you don't rely on it being able to get you help.

kinda defeats the purpose for carrying one for me.

If you travel only close to cities then maybe.... But they are being phased out anyway so why bother buying one new when a new, better system can be used.

Coverage is not quite 100%, but would be pretty close to it - the width of track "seen" by an airliner at a typical altitude of 35000ft is over 700km, so you do not need to be anywhere near directly under the aircraft. There are few areas in Australia that would not be covered at least once a day - about the only one that comes to mind is the Canning Stock Route.

But as you comment the newer type is preferable. The major difference of course is cost.

Commercial aircraft are required to have a spare VHF radio, and this is normally tuned to 121.5, and is kept turned up, as it is used as a calling channel. Any distinctive emergency tone would be reported immediately.
John

[dobbo]

.even Bear Grylls (Man vs Wild) had to drink his own pizz here and that was in the wet season:D:D:D

P155 poor hotel service if he had to BYO, bet he was glad for the helicopter ride back to his shelter after shocking service like that.

[p38arover]

If you are travelling with a companion, buy a hand-held UHF CB as well (they are quite cheap).

It's not unknown for people to go into the bush for a toilet stop and not be able to find their way back to the car. If they have a radio, at least they can talk to the person in the car.

I recall one occasion where club members had a toilet stop and one went into the bush. They then packed up and left - each car thinking the person who went into the bush was travelling in the other car.

It's also useful when you need a spotter to direct you along a bad section of track.

Ron

[JDNSW]

If you are treavelling with a companion, buy a hand-held UHF CB as well. Also useful when you need a spotter to direct you along a bad section of track.

Also, it's not unknown for people to go into the bush for a toilet stop and not be able to find their way back to the car. If they have a radio, at least they can talk to the person in the car.

I recall one occasion where club members had a toilet stop and one went into the bush. They then packed up and left - each car thinking the person who went into the bush was travelling in the other car.

Ron

Reminds me a bit of a trip up through the centre in 1963 - we camped about 100m off the road about 200 miles sout of Alice. Next morning there was a sandstorm with visibility only 50m and all tracks having disappeared in the night. Needed a compass to find the road. (And needed to remember which side we had pulled off!)

John

[p38arover]

Lovely! :eek:

[revor]

"Hat with corks(must have)"

Serious? I understand the reason but is it true these days with that wonderful DEET?

I think I'd go nuts wearing one.. Course maybe I already am! I do own a Landy!

[p38arover]

I've never actually seen one except in cartoons.

Ron

[cookiesa]

most camping/$2 shops sell nets that fit over the Akubra to keep the flies off. In short yes they are getting that way! The flies through the centre seem to eat repellant!

[p38arover]

Yes, I've seen the nets. I've not been in the real outback in summer but I've heard it's hard to eat a meal with or without the net but for different reasons. :D

[barryj]

Hi Folks, I am now seriously beginning to think about getting my 110 ready for shipping out to Oz from the UK for a 6 months trip.

It is reasonably well equipped for Scandinavia and Europe trips, BUT what is right for long trips in Europe is not necessarily right for Australia.


So what would you suggest is essential for a 110 to do some of your long tracks out in Australia

Regards


Brendan

G'day Brendan,

I see there are heaps of people giving their suggestions. One thing that would help is what "long tracks" do you plan to tackle?

I don't now if you have been to Australia before but there are sealed roads that people call long tracks.

There are also real long tracks like the Simpson Desert, Canning Stock Route, Cape York, Gibb River Road, Gun Barrel Highway, and the list goes on.

If you could define where you plan to travel, and how many persons will be in your vehicle, we could refine the list of equipment suggested.

If you were to take all the equipment suggested you would probably overload your vehicle. Taking a trailer is an option but this brings a new dimension as to where you can go safely.

Please don't take me the wrong way but if you have emergency equipment for saving lives and good communications you might be just as well off as taking more than you need.

You would be ill advised to tackle the remote tracks on your own as many have an not survived.

Hope you plans go well, there's a lot to see in this big Island.

[p38arover]

You may not need the Arctic heater. :D

At least, by driving a Defender, you won't die because you didn't know to lock the front hubs and so got bogged.

'Tis true, sadly. It has happened with tourists who have hired Land Cruiser Troop Carriers. They've bogged in 2WD, selected 4WD but it's made no difference because the hubs were free.

Others have died because they didn't know to drop tyre pressures in sand and have bogged. The police have come along in both cases and either locked the hubs and/or lowered pressures and driven the cars out.

Usually the tourists have tried to walk for help. That has been their downfall. They have died whilst those that stayed with the cars have lived.

If you put me in Scandanavia or Britain in winter and I'd probably perish. I've never driven in snow, I don't own cold weather clothing. I don't own an umbrella. I haven't even taken my raincoat out of my briefcase since I put it in there 6 years ago.

Ron

[Reads90]

Hi Folks, thank for your input.

My 110 is pretty well set up for Europe long trips. It is equipped with 2 spares,full underbody protection, front and rear Warn winches, larger intercooler, Engel fidge and normally carry a reasonably comprehensive spares kit. Must admit here I am a mechanical numpity BUT the 110 is well maintained and serviced by a competent 4 x 4 garage.


Anyway a few questions.

Please assume the longest trail in Aus

How much fuel to carry. I had a max of 110 ltrs in the 90 and that was fine for all the tracks that i did. The tamini , Great central track, the svanaha way and up to the cape

How much water for 2 people
I took two jerry cans

Exhaust bag jack?
Hi-lift

What is EPRIB?
HELP when you need it , Hire one , I did not take one as the track you are going along someone with come along but may ber a few days so make sure you have food and water and you will be fine

UHF Radio and sat phone. Buy or rent and if so who from? Web addresses useful
UHF Buy one

Why a tarp for covering radiator
Don't bother never done it myself, just use the usual land rover over roading driving tech. Aussie tell you to use a tarp in front of the rad but they are as used to us as the water crossings:D Tarp is more needed in a V8 than a diesel

What is the best GPS system to use?
I used a laptop and GPS mouse

I am sure I will have lots more questions to ask. Hope they do not appear to trival, but I believe in using other peoples experience


Regards


Leeds

Hoe this helps

[Reads90]

To give you an idea of tracks. The great central track from Linora to Ayres rock. Is a track that is the same as going from Southampton to Inverness all by track. When we did it we saw only 2 cars go the other way :D:D

[leeds]

Thanks for all your input.

At the moment I am concentrating on getting the 110 right for the conditions likely to be met in Aus

Whilst not pretending to be an expert driver but neither am I a novice Land Rover driver. There again I am going to work on the premises that I will be a novice in Aus as conditions and lengths of trails are different to what I have experienced in Scandinavia and Eastern Europe.


Yes I would like to tackle routes such as the Simpson Desert, Canning Stock Route, Cape York, Gibb River Road, Gun Barrel Highway. Whilst it is only one vehicle coming out from the UK for this trip I hope to be able to team up with other LR owners to do some of the harder/longer trails.

At the moment the planning is in very early stages which is why I may sound a bit vague about actual plans. I would rather ask lots of what maybe basic questions for Aus drivers BUT I would rather sound foolish by asking simple questions then prove I am a complete idiot by getting into serious difficulties because I dont know/have basic stuff required by Aus conditions.

Regards

Brendan

[barryj]

Thanks for all your input.

At the moment I am concentrating on getting the 110 right for the conditions likely to be met in Aus

Whilst not pretending to be an expert driver but neither am I a novice Land Rover driver. There again I am going to work on the premises that I will be a novice in Aus as conditions and lengths of trails are different to what I have experienced in Scandinavia and Eastern Europe.


Yes I would like to tackle routes such as the Simpson Desert, Canning Stock Route, Cape York, Gibb River Road, Gun Barrel Highway. Whilst it is only one vehicle coming out from the UK for this trip I hope to be able to team up with other LR owners to do some of the harder/longer trails.

At the moment the planning is in very early stages which is why I may sound a bit vague about actual plans. I would rather ask lots of what maybe basic questions for Aus drivers BUT I would rather sound foolish by asking simple questions then prove I am a complete idiot by getting into serious difficulties because I dont know/have basic stuff required by Aus conditions.

Regards

Brendan


Sounds like a good plan. Keep in touch with the forum and I'm sure you will meet up with some of us along the way.

And remember, there are few silly questions but there are more silly answers :D.

[Reads90]

Leeds
Get surpension and ARB bumpers and stuff fitted to the truck when you get here. This is what we did with the 90 as it is cheaper than in the UK.
Same with long range tank on the 110. We got the 90 one (long range tank) in the uk as they don't do them in Aus
Same with the engal stuff but i think you said you already had one of them :)

[flagg]

Make sure you bring patience, a good sense of humor and a smile.

I did a lot of Australia in a stock defender, with some basic spares, recovery gear and couple of jerry cans. Had a ball and took my time. Only got stuck once, never broke down.

- Have good maps. Know how to read them. Know how to fold them. A GPS will only take you so far.

- Talk to people. Remember that most will talk things up.

- Don't ever be afraid to drive around a problem.

- If you do get stuck. Make sure you have a cup of tea before attempting recovery.

[landyfromanuthaland]

Offlanders under estimate our harsh enviroment, the outback is a formidable enviroment and has claimed many unprepared people, even locals come unstuck, they come unstuck in two ways as a rule, one they never carry enuff water, too much is not enuff, secondly the vehicle fails for what ever reason and they attempt to walk out, STAY with the vehicle, the vehcile is always found but the owners are found dead if at all, common sense must always prevail,

a good first aid kit which u are best to buy here cause it will have whatu need, electrics these days are great with epirb beacons and gps u can go anywhere, golden rule stop at the local police stations and get there advice on conditons ahead, and let them know who u are and how long u expect to be and where u expect to go, gives them some help in case u have a drama and they must look for u,

it5s all well and good to have all the stuff in the car but if u go a walking and have strife, break a leg or get lost what use is your epirb if itsi n the car, u must have a personal kit u must carry when away from the vehicle this would hold a whistle, basic first aid kit, matches, signal mirror, a back pack hydrator is well worth the money,,

I have seen eggs and bacon cooked on the bonnet of a landy in the Northern Territory afternoon sun, remember your own skin, cover yourself up, heros wear shorts and singlets in the Aussie sun then they die of skin cancer, people often pack the wrong food for extended voyages specially if they carry a emergency kit, there are a myriad of sites that will give u survival tips for our enviroment, read up, water is a must, forget the beer been so many instances where guys have toddled off away from there vehicles leaving the water behind but taking only the beer in the esky, beer is not hydration niether is wine or soft drinks, staminade powder is worth carrying and if u drink any water from local river sources boil it first or use sterilizing tabs,

vehicle spares is common sense point less having tyre tubes if u have no way of breaking the tyre beads or u forgot the tyre levers and mallet, hand winches are fine but a hi lift jack doubles as a winch I dont trust exhaust jacks, never venture under a jacked vehicle on sand without stands of some description, the canvas sheet is used to cover the grille when crossing rivers in an aid to keep water from the fan and killing your electrics in case of electronic ignition, our deserts and outback tracks will sort the girls from the boys,

remember the Army 7 Ps, prior planning and preparation prevents **** poor perfromance, above all have fun and go mad with the camera

[p38arover]

Leeds
Get surpension and ARB bumpers and stuff fitted to the truck when you get here. This is what we did with the 90 as it is cheaper than in the UK.
Same with long range tank on the 110. We got the 90 one (long range tank) in the uk as they don't do them in Aus
Same with the engal stuff but i think you said you already had one of them :)


I wonder if one can get it GST (VAT) free as it will be exported with the vehicle?

Ron

[easo]

above all have fun and go mad with the camera

And rember we thrive on pics here at AULRO :rulez::rulez:

Easo

[landyfromanuthaland]

As Numptys missus is often saying, it didnt happen without pics

[landyfromanuthaland]

***** that would mean I actually did get married! there are pictures and I thought I was dreaming

[chosen]

Well there have been heaps of great advice thus far...

It is always hard to refine a list of what to take with you on a big Oz trip... some people have gone overboard with the spares list (you are more likely to need a spare if you are carrying so many due to the weight) - you know your vehicles condition re running gear... it is more the specific stuff like temperature, vibration, aggravation (dust) related problems that might be different over hear.

First Aid Kit is a big must... and take loads of those springy bandages as they are useful for treating snake/funnel web spider bites. May I suggest taking an Aussie First aid course.

Water - take lots as if you work hard to try and get unstuck you'll need it! Oh, use several containers for housing it too never put all your eggs in one basket!!

Fire Extinguishers - Now I carry a couple of the larger ones (it is surprising how quickly they last) Make sure to carry ones that have hoses attached for under your vehicle - many don't work upside-down.

A long handled shovel (dah!!)

Hi-lift, as mentioned previously

Axe is useful as is a chainsaw with a short bar

TARP IS USEFULL for water crossings - even for a diesel, if you cross any muddy water (perhaps behind another vehicle) it can cake up the radiator!!!


This is just some necessary guff that I reckon should be added to what SOME others have mentioned... BTW I take youth groups 4x4ing so I always gotta be prepared for the worst!

Hope this helps,

Chosen.

[Reads90]

- Talk to people. Remember that most will talk things up.

- Don't ever be afraid to drive around a problem.

- If you do get stuck. Make sure you have a cup of tea before attempting recovery.

Good advice

There is no need to try and drive though a big muddy puddle and damage somthing when you have plenty of space to drive around it

Also you are right had many stories about tracks and stuff to ony get there and find it was noting like i was told.

[JDNSW]

As a last comment - remember that many if not most vehicle failures, accidents, and getting stuck are at least partly the result of overloading!

John

[weeds]

Also you are right had many stories about tracks and stuff to ony get there and find it was noting like i was told.

yep some of the stories i read about the simpson were over the top...i cruised across in high range on 80L of dieso

[JDNSW]

yep some of the stories i read about the simpson were over the top...i cruised across in high range on 80L of dieso

I drove all over the Simpson forty years ago in a 2a diesel with no modifications or special equipment except a water tank and radial tyres. So this does not surprise me!

Most places you are likely to go the major problems will be distance and isolation, nothing else, although corrugations can be a real killer on some roads.
But unless you do silly things like trying to drive through the wet season, the actual travelling is not usually very difficult.

John