Should Prisons Seperate Ofenders or all in one zone

[DirtyDawg]

Further to my controversial questions another has raised its head in the shed outta of the rain.

Why should child sex offenders be separated from other prisoners..Shouldn't the fear of being in general population be a punishment addition.
Eg there is a Copper in Perth who has been in gaol for 9 years for Sex with a minor(13yr step daughter), He has had two jury trials and found guilty on both. Why should he have spent 10years of segregation..I say throw him in with the rest and let the hammer fall whichever way it does. If there is a death in custody..frees up some Tax dollars for a hospital bed or new school;)
It would be good to have a prison officers input here as when My brother was one he said he should of had a maids uniform for that job as it was always about the prisoner?

[dobbo]

Death is too good and too quick for them sick b45tards, **** them with some razor wire and let them **** in a bag for the rest of their days. No sell them as a whore for a kinky crew of a freighter. Scientific experiments maybe?



Remember "The Running Man" that scenerio would be good to see.

[incisor]

sigh... you bored dawg?

havent you got a twin overhead flashing red light you need to fit to that fender before you lift it?

[JMAN]

This copper in W.A would most definitly be flogged to within an inch of his life just for being a cop in gaol. Add on that he is a sex offender and things just get better for him.
Separation is for the benefit of these monsters. They would be killed if held within the general population. We as tax payers would have to cover the costs of the sex offenders funeral, and the investigation into the prison, sending the in-mates to court. If the sex offender is just flogged then he would whinge and whine about his treatment and want those blokes charged! More money would be waisted on the sex offender.

I also reckon they should be put in with the general population too and for all the right reasons. These animals should be tortured until the end of time...

[JMAN]

I heard about one bloke who invited a troubled youth to his house, put on a record or should I say a single of Del Shannon's "Runway" and played this repeatedly for hours before he....

[loanrangie]

I heard about one bloke who invited a troubled youth to his house, put on a record or should I say a single of Del Shannon's "Runway" and played this repeatedly for hours before he....

Sent him to sleep with lousy music taste ?

[pete]

All the rock spiders are housed in protection away from the main stream crims if anybody touchs them thay will sue your **** off so quick and the judicial system will definately look after them better than their victims don't forget alot of judges and polititions are rockies.If the kiddie fiddler dies they go on a witch hunt of the staff so the department doesn't get sued.

[landyfromanuthaland]

If I had my way there would be a prison smack bang in the middle of the simmo desert with no aircon for the scum bags, there they would work, I am all for the death penalty of sex offenders, rapists, murderers and the likes of Ivan milat and that idiot martin bryant would be zapped, if u take a life why should u be allowed to keep yours? certian allowances of course, I would also like to see a jail on one of the remote islands of Australias coast somewhere, these places would house all the real nasty buggers leaving the local gaols for blue and white collar crims who really dont need to be subjected to the goings on in mainstream gaols. Child sex offenders really should be shot not once but twice and then fired out of a cannon

[dobbo]

If I had my way there would be a prison smack bang in the middle of the simmo desert with no aircon for the scum bags, there they would work, I am all for the death penalty of sex offenders, rapists, murderers and the likes of Ivan milat and that idiot martin bryant would be zapped, if u take a life why should u be allowed to keep yours? certian allowances of course, I would also like to see a jail on one of the remote islands of Australias coast somewhere, these places would house all the real nasty buggers leaving the local gaols for blue and white collar crims who really dont need to be subjected to the goings on in mainstream gaols. Child sex offenders really should be shot not once but twice and then fired out of a cannon



"There's one smoking a joint,
And another with spots!
If I had my way,
I'd have all of you shot!"

[cartm58]

In Victoria Sale Prison was reserved for all kiddie offenders coppers and prsion warders so they wouldnt end up bashed and dead by the general population.

Personally l think you have responsibility to protect people in custody of the state so no l dont think they should be mixed in with general population prisoners

But l dont agree with moddling prisoners and no l dont beleive in reform and rehabiliation either

So l think cells should be bare as possible no radio no tv no newspaper no visitors it should be bleak and soul destroying

[JMAN]

i also heard that a bloke was sent to 5 years jail for bashing his step son who was only 3 years old. This animal left the boy bruised from head to toe, broke bones, bruised his penis by squeezing and pinching it and would butt his cigs out on him.
When he was in gaol, he was put in a room with some of the toughest crims. The screws locked and guarded the door, and left these blokes to punish him big time. I like that alot..:D

[Pedro_The_Swift]

what , if anything,, has this to do with Landrovers????

[JMAN]

not much really, just think of it as a chat around a camp fire....

[Quarks]

or in the kitchen,

since the Dawg's been doing some stirring lately!

:D

(I must be tired)

[pete]

The thing about giving crims tv, radio, newspapers etc is that they are a very good management tools that means alot to them when you take them off them.In a certain remand centre there a hell of a lot of inocent people who have been stitched up by coppers or have been in the wrong place with the wrong people and have to wait up to 2 years to go to trial, also it has been proven that people can be stitched up using DNA there are some pretty shady people in there I know it's hard to believe

[landyfromanuthaland]

yeah back to England would be good, or that place New Zealand maybe

[CraigE]

Its the minor offenders that should be segregated not the real crims. Keep the relativally low level crims away from the serious, so they do not become harder crims.

[mudmouse]

They have to segregate them because they have a duty of care. They would, oh what a pity, be minced meat in general circulation and because that is a known factor they have to be protected.... It's just pathetic they don't consider the life long trauma these maggots have inflicted on their victims.

I reckon they can be chucked in the bin and play 'the Momma and the Pappa' all night long:eek:

[pete]

A lot of the so called petty criminals start of coming thru juvenile justice which is a joke it is like a holiday home and they can get away with everything and are not held responsible for their actions they all have a real attitude problem and when they come into big jail they ***** themselves.If they really want to drop crime they should adopt the broken windows principle,as they say 80% of the crime is commited by 20% of the people

[JohnE]

The thing about giving crims tv, radio, newspapers etc is that they are a very good management tools that means alot to them when you take them off them.In a certain remand centre there a hell of a lot of inocent people who have been stitched up by coppers or have been in the wrong place with the wrong people and have to wait up to 2 years to go to trial, also it has been proven that people can be stitched up using DNA there are some pretty shady people in there I know it's hard to believe



Stitched up you say,
in this day and age with the burdens of proof you make a statement like that, sounds like what everyone that gets locked up says.
You have proof of this?


john

[mudmouse]

NO ONE is on remand for two years before trial, it just doesn't happen here. Refusing bail is only granted to ensure the peanut turns up to court and as far as being 'stitched up' with DNA evidence, thats from the TV because securing DNA evidence is a very small part of an investigation. It can be compelling but if not much else supports it or it doesn't support the other evidence, it'll sink that line of enquiry.

[pete]

Actually I have got a very idea as I have worked in maximum security for years.I do personally know of a bloke who had 2 high end jewlery shops and a restraunt who got dragged into conspiracy to import by phone taps because some machinery he ordered was in the same shipment as the drugs.After 16months the dpp admitted they had nothing on him and told him if he'd sign paperwork to say he wouldn't sue they would let him out if not they would drag it out to trial and he woud still not get anything.He was married with 2 kids and a stunner of a wife, he was butt ugly and his bussiness was going broke. What would you do? he signed. Most serious cases ie. capital cases ,supply com quantity do take 2+ years to get from being locked up to getting sentenced.

[DirtyDawg]

sigh... you bored dawg?

havent you got a twin overhead flashing red light you need to fit to that fender before you lift it?
Too dumb Dave, you lost me..I thought red lights were for hookers?:D:D

Funny enough bordom is playin apart..been home all week:(

[pete]

One more thing a lot of people only get bail because the jails are full to capacity some crims have to sit in police cells for a couple of days because there are no cells in jails vacant.That IS why a lot of crooks get parole as well. Jails are definately a growth industry.People kill to get inside.

[JohnE]

Actually I have got a very idea as I have worked in maximum security for years.I do personally know of a bloke who had 2 high end jewlery shops and a restraunt who got dragged into conspiracy to import by phone taps because some machinery he ordered was in the same shipment as the drugs.After 16months the dpp admitted they had nothing on him and told him if he'd sign paperwork to say he wouldn't sue they would let him out if not they would drag it out to trial and he woud still not get anything.He was married with 2 kids and a stunner of a wife, he was butt ugly and his bussiness was going broke. What would you do? he signed. Most serious cases ie. capital cases ,supply com quantity do take 2+ years to get from being locked up to getting sentenced.


Thats a bit different to your comment on getting stitched up.
I worked on the other end for years locking them up. It doesn;t happen!
What you described is a federal brief, either customs or afp.
Unless you read the full brief of evidence I find it hard to believe someone would sign off on a non prosecution, you can't make the charges go away, and once listed at court those records too have to be dealt with, usually by offering no evidence with explanation.
Ran it by a mate of mine who is a barrister , who called yesterday, he laughed, didn;t believe it, reckoned it wouldn;t happen. You don;t sign away no suing rights, where charges have been preferred.




john

[DirtyDawg]

We could just put all the crims on ships and send them to another country :D

:mad:Didnt the friggin Poms do that 200yrs ago:(