Why u dont buy Chinese car parts!

[landyfromanuthaland]

Was taking my chillen to school this morning when my beloved Fairlane developed a nasty nasty rumble from the front end, I thought a wheel bearing so once back home I jacker up and popped of the offending wheel, removed the outer bearing and noticed it was full of metal shavings, so off with the calliper and off with the disc, cleaned it out and h ad a good look, the outer bearing shell had totally disintergrated , all the case hardening had scrubbed off then the actual bearing steel was beginning to chew out, was a real mess, so upto REPCO and a new set of decent Jap bearings, the ones I took out were CMC brand made in China and these were fitted by a local servo not 6 months ago whom I shall be visiting shortly to vent my disliking at them using Supercheap Auto bits in my precious beloved Fairlane,

Hope the XXXXXX dont make Landrover parts, god willing they dont, even the Discs look to be Chinese as there is no channels cut into the inner hub so u can slip a small chisel down to bang out the races, these too were replaced when the bearings were done and cost a pretty penny, so u dont know what the mechanics are using in your cars.

[Scouse]

Hope the XXXXX dont make Landrover parts, I have some bad news for you......
:(:(:(


Seriously though, it's like anywhere - there's good parts & there's not so good parts.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

...removed the outer bearing and noticed it was full of metal shavings, so off with the calliper and off with the disc, cleaned it out and h ad a good look, the outer bearing shell had totally disintergrated , all the case hardening had scrubbed off then the actual bearing steel was beginning to chew out, was a real mess, ... ... the ones I took out were CMC brand made in China and these were fitted by a local servo not 6 months ago whom I shall be visiting shortly to vent my disliking at them using S****cheap ....
Have to agree with you there, last year I bought a second hand car trailer (more like a golf buggy trailer) and was a bit concerned about when the bearings had last been replaced. Saturday arvo, so went to the SC place that was the only local one open and bought a trailer bearing set by branded an by an Aussie trailer accessory company A**.

I fitted the bearings in Nowra drove up to Sydney and back once and thence to a friends place at Thornleigh. Parked in his driveway I noticed oil all over one wheel, removed the hub and inspected the bearing to find it had lost all its case hardening. Less than 500 Km and the bearing was stuffed. :mad::mad: Likewise bought sets of Japanese bearings and replaced both sides.

In terms of Land Rover parts, I recently got a set of gearbox bearings from a company in Melbourne famous for supplying parts for our Land Rovers (have dealt with them for 30 years). I asked them were they Japanese or English bearings they said yes without hesitating. When the kit arrived there are no maker markings on the bearings, just a number.

I hope they will be O.K. but I suspect they also didn't come from the Ol' Blighty or the "land o the rising sun"

Only time will tell!

Diana

[Xtreme]

One of our party on a recent trip had replaced his trailing arm bushes before the trip. Now although I don't know where they were manufactured, I have my suspicions as they disintegrated after less than 5,000kms and before we even got into the tough stuff of Madigans Line.

You must be very careful with replacement parts these days, especially non-genuine gear.

[Scouse]

You must be very careful with replacement parts these days, especially non-genuine gear.I have heard that one of the major LR parts importers has had a few parts made in China.

Let's just say that I think they have lost more money than they have made by cutting costs.

[101RRS]

Sorry to tell but the chinese make a landrover copy called the LandTiger - only sold in China I believe.

Garry

[landyfromanuthaland]

Its just not worth trying to save $5 bux on a bearing set by buying the SuperCheap Auto junk

You really dont save in the long run, in fact it costs u more when u have a catastrophic failure at an inopertune time

Chinese junk is everywhere now, even your veges u buy at Woolies are coming from China coz they can fill up a ship with it and float it here cheaper then they can buy the local product for, what does this tell u?

[George130]

Its just not worth trying to save $5 bux on a bearing set by buying the SuperCheap Auto junk

You really dont save in the long run, in fact it costs u more when u have a catastrophic failure at an inopertune time

Chinese junk is everywhere now, even your veges u buy at Woolies are coming from China coz they can fill up a ship with it and float it here cheaper then they can buy the local product for, what does this tell u?

They are taking over the world by stealth?

[mittadisco]

What if Tata (Indian) take ownership??

[George130]

What if Tata (Indian) take ownership??

Those wonderful Alloy panels will be made better with steel ones. Could see a 5 ton Defender 130 barely able to move:D

[mittadisco]

Those wonderful Alloy panels will be made better with steel ones. Could see a 5 ton Defender 130 barely able to move:D

You mean your next Landie will come from this:

as seen on google earth (http://googlesightseeing.com/maps?p=420&c=4175&ll=21.394329,72.189445&spn=0.040933,0.059034&t=k&hl=en)

[George130]

You mean your next Landie will come from this:

as seen on google earth (http://googlesightseeing.com/maps?p=420&c=4175&ll=21.394329,72.189445&spn=0.040933,0.059034&t=k&hl=en)
Yep. I'm testing the 2008 model:eek:.

[Quiggers]

I hope their tyres are better, I'm seriously considering a set of Mudstars:eek::twisted:;):o

GQ

[Lotz-A-Landies]

You mean your next Landie will come from this:

as seen on google earth (http://googlesightseeing.com/maps?p=420&c=4175&ll=21.394329,72.189445&spn=0.040933,0.059034&t=k&hl=en)
Where is the EPA when you need them - dig up all that beach pour a slab of concrete and paint it green, then lay some new beach sand on top.

Phew - Now we can be safe - after all we know that green is good and we will live healthier lives!

Diana

[SevPP]

I'm pretty sceptical of most Chinese made stuff, but it does seem to be getting better all the time.

A guy I know recently installed a Chinese 2.4 stroker kit into his Mitsubishi 4g63 (Gallant VR4 motor) and it made 510hp! So far it has held up well and he kicks **** out on the track with very few cars able to beat him in the sprints! (The motor is in an early 70's Lancer, rwd thing)

[Disco Steve]

[QUOTE=landyfromanuthaland;609388] beloved Fairlane

Now theres two words you dont see together often:wasntme:

[rovercare]

If one did have a five ton Fender what sort of engine would one need to have under the steel bonnet to pull the Fender around at road speed, If TATA take over Landy or that Mahindra mob that revamped the old willys with a puegot dieso that would be enuff to make me by an FJ holden and stick with it

We may have caned the nips into submission with an atom bomb to win the war but in the end they beat us with technology and cheap radios

As for the Chinese I blame this so called Global Economy for this situation and now we are infested with cheap **** that breaks 5 seconds after u buy it, mind u Paul Keating with his asian **** kissing didnt help the story much either

Mahindra are the largest tracotr manufacturers worldwide;)

[JohnE]

Gee there is a lot of dissention regarding, chinese made products from aussie companies, it is a fact of life these days.
Whilst I may be wrong with what I have been told, the quality from factories over there is as good as anything western made that we know.
We are so absorbed with consumerism, that unless a brand name we have grown up with is on something we buy, we immediately have our suspicions on the product.
A case in point is aldi products, they are rebadged products we already know, but I have heard so many times , ' oh its no good doesn;t taste like X brand.where it probably is X brand.'

While I am not beating the drum for chinese products, the peasant over there buys the same sort of machinery that they sell here, they don't have the yuen /dollars that we have so things have to last. So shoddy is not in their best interests. The same for what rovercare said about mahindra tractors.


john

[Quiggers]

That $100 compressor I bought from superjoint 3 years back still goes, but all the fittings gave up in the first year and had to be replaced.

2 boxes of aldi brekky cereal had more weevils than tucker...

the samsung washing machine is rusting after 5 years...

...every computer monitor (all Asian, but with apple stickers) I've acquired new has given up within a year...

the jug in the kitchen (chinese) gets replaced every six months or so under warranty - up to the fourth one - which has the same prob as the previous three...

now see my rant about an ethernet switcher

GQ

[landyfromanuthaland]

the 200 buck genset I bought ran for 3 hours, farted and stopped and never ran again. just another thing in the shed to trip over. The stuff while manufactured cheaply has no real quality, ok u may get some good stuff here and there but on the hole its mass produced junk, I look at what we buy the boys for xmas and look at whats in the trailer broken, they would be hard pushed to find anything fromlast year that has made it, and everything uses that rotten little AA battery, u can buy them in packs of 60 now but I bet half of em are flat.

The point to all this is we have manufacturing in Australia and build some fairly high quality stuff, yet the restraints put on buisness in the way of taxes, red tape, insurances etc is what forces the off shore products to be bought in, the chinese work for bugger all and work hard, the Aussie wants good money 10 mins every hour for a smoke, one hour lunch, good safe work conditions, holiday pay and sick pay blah blah blah the list goes on, chinese dont have that.

This is not just a problem is Oz it happens through out the world, the yank aftermarket for there cars has a huge market for chinese made stuff, so we aint the only ones propping up another countrys economy and china is booming big time

It pains me to see industry here going to rack and ruin coz we dont support our own products, the plight of fruit and vege farmers should ring bells here, big companys like woolys and coles can buy fruit and veg in frozen form from overseas for nothing and ship it here and still beat the local guy, this is all dollar driven, they have no loyalty to local producers, thepoor buggers have to bury there fruit they cant sell, its all wrong but it seems to be the way the world is travelling and there is really bugger all we can do about it

[Scouse]

the 200 buck genset I bought ran for 3 hours, farted and stopped and never ran again. It's not out of fuel is it ?
:p

[landyfromanuthaland]

Who was flinging poo at my beloved Fairlane, that was u young Disco Steve, are u insinuating that Fairlanes are unloveable? or even unreliable perhaps? go and wash your mouth out with soap, my old 78 Fairlane is bueatifully preserved and in fine condition it will be around 50 years after my AU has dropped into the ground.

[landyfromanuthaland]

Nah its got fuel, its got a new plug, the damn thing just wont fire, i threw the thing up the putty and then plonked it in the shed, what I usually do, I have an expensive temper

[barryj]

[quote=landyfromanuthaland;609388] beloved Fairlane

Now theres two words you dont see together often:wasntme:


"Dearly beloved, we are gathered here today in memory of ........." (you know the rest :angel:).

[barryj]

That $100 compressor I bought from superjoint 3 years back still goes, but all the fittings gave up in the first year and had to be replaced.

2 boxes of aldi brekky cereal had more weevils than tucker...

the samsung washing machine is rusting after 5 years...

...every computer monitor (all Asian, but with apple stickers) I've acquired new has given up within a year...

the jug in the kitchen (chinese) gets replaced every six months or so under warranty - up to the fourth one - which has the same prob as the previous three...

now see my rant about an ethernet switcher

GQ


At lease we'll be OK when the sea levels rise due to global warming. Just keep piling up the landfill sites higher and higher :o.

[mcrover]

Mahindra are the largest tracotr manufacturers worldwide;)

Kyoto recon they are, Deadong, Branson and Kyoto as well as parts and engines for Kubota and Komatsu (small earth moving stuff).

But I havnt seen any numbers to proove it, just a pamphlet that came with a quote for a tractor recently so I dont know how much truthe there is in that.

Mahindra are building Yanmar stuff these days as well arnt they?

[Disco Steve]

Who was flinging poo at my beloved Fairlane, that was u young Disco Steve, are u insinuating that Fairlanes are unloveable? or even unreliable perhaps? go and wash your mouth out with soap, my old 78 Fairlane is bueatifully preserved and in fine condition it will be around 50 years after my AU has dropped into the ground.

It's not hard to "out last" an AU though:D


Note to self...DUCK

[Discobunny]

That $100 compressor I bought from superjoint 3 years back still goes, but all the fittings gave up in the first year and had to be replaced.

2 boxes of aldi brekky cereal had more weevils than tucker...

the samsung washing machine is rusting after 5 years...

...every computer monitor (all Asian, but with apple stickers) I've acquired new has given up within a year...

the jug in the kitchen (chinese) gets replaced every six months or so under warranty - up to the fourth one - which has the same prob as the previous three...

now see my rant about an ethernet switcher

GQ
Hey GQ, have you been hanging out with Ron:twisted::twisted::Rolling::p

[mcrover]

Gee there is a lot of dissention regarding, chinese made products from aussie companies, it is a fact of life these days.
Whilst I may be wrong with what I have been told, the quality from factories over there is as good as anything western made that we know.
We are so absorbed with consumerism, that unless a brand name we have grown up with is on something we buy, we immediately have our suspicions on the product.
A case in point is aldi products, they are rebadged products we already know, but I have heard so many times , ' oh its no good doesn;t taste like X brand.where it probably is X brand.'

While I am not beating the drum for chinese products, the peasant over there buys the same sort of machinery that they sell here, they don't have the yuen /dollars that we have so things have to last. So shoddy is not in their best interests. The same for what rovercare said about mahindra tractors.


john

You are right to a point John, the only thing that is stopping the good Chinese stuff from getting known is that not many Aussie manufacturers will buy it in when it is only 1/2 the price of the item they are buying now and down the road from the 1/2 price factory there is a 1/4 price factory which pumps out a product that looks nearly the same.

I use 3 bearing suppliers, 1 which wont supply chinese stuff at all as they tried and got lobbed with law suits and warrenty returns from customers that were less than happy, 1 that will supply some chinese stuff but is stricked on their quality control off shore in china and another that I only use for wheel barrow and trolly bearings as they sell cheap cheap stuff which is the chinese crap.

I have had similar stories as other people with chinese made bearings and other parts but I have to say that in general, I have a lot of chinese built stuff in the house and I have had very little trouble with any of it.

It will end up the same as Japan, as their economy gets larger and more money starts flowing through the place, all the safety and work practices will come into play as will the quality control and then China will have to move over for another elcheapo country for the Supercheap auto products as there will allways be 1.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Did we all hear about the safety recall on Chinese made propane tanks. The 9Kg ones you see on special at the Bu**@*%# warehouse. I can't find the recall notice on the Government site but read the story in the SMH or ABC online recently.

The valve opens O.K. but when you go to close the valve the spindle screws out of the valve body and the propane escapes, causing explosion, fire and injury risks.

Diana

[mtwilli]

Hope the ****** dont make Landrover parts, god willing they dont, even the Discs look to be Chinese as there is no channels cut into the inner hub so u can slip a small chisel down to bang out the races, these too were replaced when the bearings were done and cost a pretty penny, so u dont know what the mechanics are using in your cars.[/quote]


I have to say that it is not that they are made in china but it is the old adagge that you get what you pay for.
90% of all electronics are now made in china for all the major brands with excellent quality control, the same goes for most other items.
But we have to remember that not all wheel bearings are the same, stick to well known brands that have stood the test of time like.

[loanrangie]

Who was flinging poo at my beloved Fairlane, that was u young Disco Steve, are u insinuating that Fairlanes are unloveable? or even unreliable perhaps? go and wash your mouth out with soap, my old 78 Fairlane is bueatifully preserved and in fine condition it will be around 50 years after my AU has dropped into the ground.

Now if it was a nice ZA-ZD fairlane we could forgive you !

[landyfromanuthaland]

Its a classic none the less, I did have an even nice 63 Compact Fairlane I sold last year, was gorgeous, merino white with red and white trim, nice 302 windsor and updated front end, thats a Fairlane I tell u!

[dobbo]

I owned a ZH Fairlane


and sold it for a case of beer

the beer was the only decent thing to ever come out of that car.

[sclarke]

Thats why you buy Genuine... Saves you $$$ in the long run

[dobbo]

Thats why you buy Genuine... Saves you $$$ in the long run


Tend to agree IMHO everytime in the past I have swung to save a dollar it has cost me in the long run. Nowadays I prefer genuine products, therefore in theory avoid any of the niggling issues associated with sticking cheap bits into my engine and/or body.

[p38arover]

"Dearly beloved, we are gathered here today in memory of ........." (you know the rest :angel:).

Usually someone we didn't care much about.

Ron

[p38arover]

Hey GQ, have you been hanging out with Ron:twisted::twisted::Rolling::p

We are brothers? :eek:

Ron

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Kyoto recon they are, Deadong, Branson and Kyoto as well as parts and engines for Kubota and Komatsu (small earth moving stuff)....
Deadong that would be Daedong

We have one of those, a 50 hp one, previously we always had Massey-Ferguson, International or Ford but this Korean one was only 2/3 of the price of a Massey Ferguson and dad reckons it's great always starts first time, it'll see him out.

Diana

[DeeJay]

Personally, I just love the day and age we live in when it comes to buying gear.
Who says we have to buy the cheaper stuff anyway??
I usually make an informed choice.
My shed is full of gear that I would have never been able to afford 20-30 years ago. I have a concrete mixer - under $300 a tube bender, mig welder automatic arc welder goggles, just heaps and heaps of stuff that gets occasional use.
I buy good stuff if I think it will get a proper workout ( Generator for example - he he lrfanl) Even then I have a rethink choice. I was giving the Bosch sander a good workout on my weatherboard shed(s) and was using packets of Bosch papers at something like $15.00 per 8 as it kept tearing other brands.
I actually bought a $17.00 one that came with more papers and happily uses the cheaper papers without tearing them and it has practically replaced the Bosch unit as I am happy to use it more. I just used it for two hours last week and if it throws in the towell tomorrow I will get another one under warranty.;)
Happy days , I say...

[mcrover]

Deadong that would be Daedong

We have one of those, a 50 hp one, previously we always had Massey-Ferguson, International or Ford but this Korean one was only 2/3 of the price of a Massey Ferguson and dad reckons it's great always starts first time, it'll see him out.

Diana

Yeah sorry, fingers going faster than the brain.

We have the DK551 which is a 50hp with a 4 in 1 loader assy on it on turf tyres and the only main problems we have had (on a golf course you see all the problems that can happen) has been the syncro on the shuttle shift split from them shuttling with out coming to a complete stop, the front tyres werent strong enough to handle the loader assembly and a few switches as well as the air con which Ladas helped me sort out.

Other than that it has been terrific, nice big cabin with aircon/heater and good stezza for those long hours in creeper scarifying fairways etc is great and like you said, starts first time every time.

The only complaint with Daedong is there spares are damn expensive, a fuel filter was $140 and only available from them so Im changing the whole assembly for one off a mazda truck which is about $40 for the filter and $120 for the mount.

It isnt the same build quality as the Kubota L4330 that we got at the same time which was $15000 dearer and only 40hp but I find it more comfy and easier to operate though we cant drive it over the greens and thus the Kubota.

[mcrover]

Maktek angle grinders are just the previous model Makita products that are produced in China in red plastic casings instead of blue and Ive given mine a hiding and is still kicking and was only $59.

The Makita of the same type was $200+ and to repair the old one was going to be $100+ so I bought the Maktek.

There are good Chinese stuff around but you just have to be aware that some of it may be bodgy like the Super cheap compressor, 4 times luck now lol but its still going at the moment.

3 of them did the pressure switch and wouldnt shut off and just blew the relief and burn out the motors as it is kept in a shed behind the clubhouse and I only noticed it wasnt working when there was no air.

Instead of just replacing the pressure switch and motor they just replace the whole machine.

2 year warrenty so Im happy to keep taking it back every few months.

[Quiggers]

I had a ZC Fairlane years ago, with a 351, went well but various bits of wiring would occasionally catch fire:eek::eek:

GQ

[Pedro_The_Swift]

I had a ZA? twin round headlights?
was a POS,, but towed that race car effortlessly.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I had a ZC Fairlane ... ... but various bits of wiring would occasionally catch fire:eek::eek: GQ I didn't know that Lucas made wiring harness for Ford Fairlanes? :confused:

Diana

[George130]

I have an NL fairlane that will be looking for a new home soon.
As for the cheap tools it is a case of pay attention. The ultra cheap tend to break but a lot of the cheaper tools are quite good. Also with cheap tools your more happy to make it work harder.

[landyfromanuthaland]

I dont think Lucas supplied components to Ford, in the early years Ford was using alot of Westinghouse stuff, but u do see the odd Lucas coil and headlites, Ford generally built there own harnesses in the early years, everything these days is subbied out. The problem of fires aint un common with Fords. Regarding chinese tools when I had my wrecking yard i was a big fan of cheap tools as we were always leaving tools in cars and I would rather lose a 2 buck spanner the a 30 dollar snap on job.