Wheel Size

[cookiesa]

Hoping someone might be able to help

I am working on a trailer (originally for a boat)

Currently it has a 4 stud hub on it with the following;

Tyres 145/70/R12
Hubs TOPY 9.82 4-Jx12T-(2.6?) W

Ideally I would like to put a 16" rim on.

Hoping someone may know what vehicle (if possible) I can go get rims from the wreckers from that will fit the stud pattern (Yes I know pushing it now!) I'm hoping perhaps a camira or VK type rim might work.

The "IDEAL" would be if the rim could take a 225/75/R16.........

As I have no idea about what all this means (Other than the basics of tyre size!) I'm hoping there is someone out there with the knowledge to save me pulling every 4 stud off and trying it! (If I can find any)

Thanks in advance.

[JDNSW]

Hoping someone might be able to help

I am working on a trailer (originally for a boat)

Currently it has a 4 stud hub on it with the following;

Tyres 145/70/R12
Hubs TOPY 9.82 4-Jx12T-(2.6?) W

Ideally I would like to put a 16" rim on.

Hoping someone may know what vehicle (if possible) I can go get rims from the wreckers from that will fit the stud pattern (Yes I know pushing it now!) I'm hoping perhaps a camira or VK type rim might work.

The "IDEAL" would be if the rim could take a 225/75/R16.........

As I have no idea about what all this means (Other than the basics of tyre size!) I'm hoping there is someone out there with the knowledge to save me pulling every 4 stud off and trying it! (If I can find any)

Thanks in advance.

Offhand I can't think of ANY four stud sixteen inch wheels, so you may have a problem.

John

[cookiesa]

I was afraid of that!

Any suggestions for 15" maybe.......... (Basically I would like to increase the height off of the road as being a boat trailer the axle doesn't have a lot of clearance.

The axle also curves down through the centre, I was thinking of rotating it to help increase clearance, any idea of if this might be an issue?

Thanks again

[loanrangie]

If it had 12" rims they are probably mini or dato/toyo pattern so 16" is way out of the question.

[Utemad]

Unbraked axles aren't too pricey assuming it isn't braked as brakes for 12in wheels probably would do diddly for 16in wheels.
Get one made up to suit with Landy 5 stud.

VK commodore were 5 stud. Only the 4cyl Commodores were 4 stud (VC-VH only I think)

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Hoping someone might be able to help

I am working on a trailer (originally for a boat)

Currently it has a 4 stud hub on it with the following;

... Thanks in advance.
Cookie

You know that the majority of trailers use Holden, Ford or Land Cruiser bearings these days. The stud pattern (PCD) is merely drilled for whichever particular rim they decide to use. Many boat trailers used a 4 stud cast alloy rim about 12" but the bearings were Holden. (An axle with Holden bearings has a 1000Kg load rating, Ford slimline bearings 1450Kg)

If that is the case for less than $100 you can get a pair of Al-Ko hubs in Land Rover Series/Defender PCD to which you can then fit the Land Rover rims of your choice.

Remember if the anticipated load of the trailer will go above 750Kg you will need to fit brakes.

Diana

[cookiesa]

Thanks for all the replies so far, I have been away for a few days with the trailer and all went well. The hubs do have brakes (hydraulic which aren't connected yet as I need to get a new hose made up) but as it has them I would like to keep them.

I'll try some of the rims mentioned or perhaps try for the Alco hubs.... Thought they would cost more than that catch is matching them I guess. Then I could run a larger diameter tyre in a more common size (plus I have 2 16" Coopers sitting in the shed...)

[mcrover]

More than likely the rims will be 120y or dato 1200 or even toyo KE10 as these are about the only cars around I can think of that came out with 12" rims that were comon.

If they are toyo or dato then they will be 110mm centre between the holes and the bigest you could fit would be 14" off a 200b or corona depending on the pff set you want.

the other option is a bit dodgy but I have seen it sone and it works quite well, spacers that are either bolted or welded onto the existing hubs.

The only drama with this is the offset on the rims + the offset from the spacers as well as the bearings only being built to handle 12" wheels normally would mean that wheel bearings will chop out pretty quick.

But like I said I have seen it but on farm machinery as well as 1 caravan but the whole van was built bodgy.

[cookiesa]

I'll give them a measure tomorrow, thanks for that!

[BMKal]

Hi Cookiesa.

Recently had similar problems with my camper trailer - was in Whyalla with it not long ago. Had a wheel bearing fail not far out of Ceduna and snapped the draw bar in Tassie. Was originally built by father-in-law on Mini Minor suspension & wheels.

I'm just about finished re-building the bottom end. Now has new chassis rails, new and longer draw bar, solid axles with Ford 14" wheels & bearings. I've got some 15's in the yard as well, but they make the trailer way too high, so will stick with the 14's.

It didn't cost much at all to buy the solid axle, springs and hubs - might be a way to go for you. If you've already got hydraulic brakes set up on the trailer, it shouldn't cost too much to fit new brake assemblies with the new axle / hubs, and connect into existing lines etc. I've cheated and haven't put brakes on at the moment, but will probably go to electrics if I keep the trailer much longer.

Cheers .............. BM

[cookiesa]

finally got arond to measuring them.... 110mm centre's, Thanks McRover at least know I know what to look for!

Thanks everyone else too for your help.

[Bigbjorn]

Hillman Imp and FordEscort Mk.1 had 12" rims. For interest, the Imp rims fit minis which had 10" rims.