Hi-Lift Jack mounting....

[Barra1]

Hi Fellas,

I need some advice regarding the mounting of my hi-lift jack.

I own the longer version of the hi-lift - and it is damned heavy.

It is currently mounted on the ARB Roof Rack with one of those Kaymar Jack/shovel holders.

I'm a little concerned regarding the weight - and I reckon it may be the cause for the rear sliding window leaking/rattling.

That's my theory anyway:angel:

I'm towing the boat up to the Territory - leaving Friday - and will be doing more than a few K's on dirt roads = corrugations etc.

My question - if I bolted the Kaymar brackets to the frame of the boat trailer (dual axle) and put the jack there - using two 9.5mm high tensile bolts on each bracket - do you think it would be secure enough. To stop the RHS "pulling in" I intend to use a length of flat iron on the opposite side of the Kaymar mounts.

What do you think.....I don't have much time, flat-out at work, can't/won't weld and would not have time to arrange for someone to weld so...........do you reckon my "brainwave idea" is ok or just forget and leave the damned thing at home.

And thanks for your assistance/opinions;)

[Disco300Tdi]

Leave it at home, unless you are going to be doing some rescue work for OTHER 4WDs'

[DeeJay]

Two Hi Tensile bolts that size will be heaps. Do you think you will need it?
Of course if you do leave it at home, then you will need it, and if you take it you wont need it:eek:

[Sly]

Leave it at home,unless your breaking new ground and might get badly stuck.The last two trips into the bush our highlift just got in the way, ended up using the exhaust jack and or the hydraulic jack with some good mounting blocks.

[chosen]

Well The bolts will hold it no worries... as for your idea "To stop the RHS 'pulling in' I intend to use a length of flat iron on the opposite side of the Kaymar mounts" this sounds pretty good too... can't comment further unless I know the dimensions of the RHS though. Oh and use Nylocks on ya bolts to hold it ;-)

Another good idea is to make a bag to stop the dust and stuff covering your hi-lift.

Chosen

[Rosco]

Hi Fellas,

... To stop the RHS "pulling in" I intend to use a length of flat iron on the opposite side of the Kaymar mounts.



The usual solution is to drill oversize holes and insert a length of tube around the bolts. The tube should be a gnat's hair shorter than the length across the RHS.

Other than that I can't see a problem. Just make sure the location doesn't result in excessive weakening of the RHS.

Bon voyage

[tobes-b]

On my m8s 90 he made up a bracket that sat behind his spare wheel bolts patruding from the center of the wheel. held in place by the wheel nuts.

Wow that was a mouthful, kinda hard to explain but next time im round there ill take a photo.

Just imagine end product to be high lift jack sitting strait down the center of your spare (located on back door).

may be an easier way but seems to fit nicely and work for him.

[Snapper]

Mine sits across the rear under the door.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Barra1]

Mine sits across the rear under the door.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

That looks fantastic and very practical.

But mate, where is your cargo barrier - sorry to get on my soap box.......but.........

It is hard to be intelligent and have no cargo barrier at the same time. :wasntme:

I know, I'm alive ... and I'm lucky to be so after a rollover.... mate, please fit a cargo barrier.;)

[Snapper]

I'm still saving my coins.

[p38arover]

Vertical mount, LHS rear behind little window where the ladder is sometimes mounted- that's common on Defenders. I'll try to scan and post some pics tonight.

Ron

[jik22]

I've been looking at tghe same thing - right now, mine is under the rear seat (Though it's the shorter version) and I'm going to try and mount it upright at the rear, to the right of the door, using the 4xRAC (http://www.paddockspares.com/pp/OFF_ROAD/Jacks/Hi-Lift_4XRAC_Mounting_Kit.html) mounting kit and standing the thing on some bumperettes (http://www.paddockspares.com/pp/DEFENDER/Accessories/Rear_Bumperettes_(pr).html) to take the load of the bolts.

[Barra1]

Vertical mount, LHS rear behind little window where the ladder is sometimes mounted- that's common on Defenders. I'll try to scan and post some pics tonight.

Ron

Thanks Ron :)

I'm pressed for time to get this right though. I really don't want to leave it at home - it was really needed on a previous trip - and it is the only "winch" I have - if required for that purpose.

Has anyone ever mounted a hi-lift onto the top of an ARB bullbar. There are two "light/aerial" brackets welded there - and the jack could be bolted to these.

Feasible?

[Rosco]

Mine sits across the rear under the door.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=3896&d=1188808933

Good spot ... but does it impact on departure angle. The lifting platform part appears to hang down a tad.

Cheers

[Redback]

I almost owned a Hi-lift:(

[Bushie]

Mine hangs off a bracket on the rear wheel carrier, also hang the shovel there as well

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/10/257.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/app/showphoto.php/photo/5159)


Martyn

[1103.9TDI]

I had one on the bullbar of a previous (sub-standard) 4WD, I drilled holes through the top tube of the bar, and welded nuts so that the bolts went inside the bar. I made sure the bolt head size was the same as the wheel nuts, you only need one size if you get a flat. It all worked well, but that was 20 odd years ago in the Territory- when I'd drive 'round with rifles mounted on a rack in the rear window of the ute:eek:. I'd suggest a hilift on the bullbar would not be legal in any state/territory and may cause difficulty in opening the bonnet/working on the engine, etc.
Of course, owning Landy's, we never work on our engines, only servicing is occasionally required:D:D:D:D.

[slug_burner]

A slight caution with the mounting of anything including the spare wheel on the genuine spare wheel carrier. The back door on Defenders is made of coke cans and it is not uncommon for the doors to crack. Take your spare off the door and don't put anything else on it your door will last longer and you will get less dust entering via the rear seals.

[Snapper]

Good spot ... but does it impact on departure angle. The lifting platform part appears to hang down a tad.

Cheers

It does sit down about 30mm. I is protected by the tow bar and wont get caught up on anything unless your really unlucky.
I can also turn it around and flip it over so it is pointing up but then it will rub on the rear panels.

Snap.

[Bushie]

Mine hangs off a bracket on the rear wheel carrier, also hang the shovel there as well

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/10/257.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/app/showphoto.php/photo/5159)


Martyn

I suppose I should have mentioned, because its not easily seen in the pic. The wheel carrier is an after market Kaymar. As stated above the rear door is not all that strong to hang extras off.

Martyn

[Larry]

Has anyone ever mounted a hi-lift onto the top of an ARB bullbar. There are two "light/aerial" brackets welded there - and the jack could be bolted to these.

Feasible?

Feasible, yes, legal in NSW, no.:nazibanned:

Classed as a pedestrian hazard.:angel:

Larry.

[p38arover]

Has anyone ever mounted a hi-lift onto the top of an ARB bullbar. There are two "light/aerial" brackets welded there - and the jack could be bolted to these.


Here's how I did it on my previous RR The link tells how to do it and gives pics):

http://members.optusnet.com.au/thebecketts/rover/rovermod.htm#hilift

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/10/249.jpg

I never had anyone tell me it was a problem.

[isuzu110]

I did this

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/06/1018.jpghttps://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/06/1019.jpg

Two lengths of threaded rod into the front of the rear footwell, secure with split washers and wingnuts. Keeps it clean. Not sure if yours will be too long

[p38arover]

Here's some pics I took at the 50th Anniversary in Cooma:

[Bushie]

Here's how I did it on my previous RR The link tells how to do it and gives pics):

http://members.optusnet.com.au/thebecketts/rover/rovermod.htm#hilift

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/10/249.jpg

I never had anyone tell me it was a problem.

Could result in a defect now though.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/downloads/vehicinspe_dl1.html

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/images/vehicindex_g1.gif

Martyn

[p38arover]

Could result in a defect now though.

Oh, I agree.

What I did later was to fit the hilift to the bar once we got to the playing fields. On the way there, it was carried in the back.

Ron

[Barra1]

Jack fitted to the trailer as a last resort - will review the situation in the coming weeks/months.

Thanks, you blokes for your assistance.;)