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Outback 1
18th October 2007, 09:21 AM
so as not to hijack another thread i thought i would staet here,over the past few days a lot has been said in the media on this subject.in my opinion what they say in regards to tax cuts only driving interest rates up seems correct ,so i thought i would take a poll and see what others thought......after all who want's higher interest rates!

loanrangie
18th October 2007, 11:08 AM
I voted for infrastructure but a balance of both would be good:D

harro
18th October 2007, 11:37 AM
I voted for infrastructure but a balance of both would be good:D

And that is about what I expect the other side to offer.;)

Cheers:twobeers:

JDNSW
18th October 2007, 11:57 AM
Like loanrangie, I don't think the best answer is either/or. Also needs to be pointed out that a substantial part of the tax cuts (as with previous ones) are not in fact tax cuts at all, but restoration of the status quo before bracket creep.

John

Quiggers
18th October 2007, 12:00 PM
$34 billion in tax cuts, over the five years as suggested by the prime minister, is about $7b a year... not much...

I'd like to see it put into infrastructure etc, but, I have a trust problem...

Prior to the 1993 election, (then) PM Keating said, Pacific Hwy dual carriageway by year 2000.
He was elected, but that project didn't happen...

(he did however note climate change and the inland being unusable for farming within 30 years, but did nothing).

14 years after that election, only a third of the Pac Hwy is dual...

and maybe another 20 years before its done, if ever....

$7billion a year wont go far...too may demands on our dilapidated roads, hospitals, schools etc...

sadly, no pollie or party have any real long term visions for Australia

3 years is the long term these days...

GQ

weeds
18th October 2007, 12:11 PM
I voted tax cuts so that I have more to spend on my infrastructure needs, house reno's etc

loanrangie
18th October 2007, 12:51 PM
I voted tax cuts so that I have more to spend on my infrastructure needs, house reno's etc

I like that except the bstards will just increase interest rates so that the tax cuts will have nil effect.

cookiesa
18th October 2007, 01:00 PM
Let's spend some now on infrastructure so we don't have to pay more tax later on when it completely falls apart and we are driving around potholes in our highways...... OK more than we do now! LOL

Quiggers
18th October 2007, 01:09 PM
Let's spend some now on infrastructure so we don't have to pay more tax later on when it completely falls apart and we are driving around potholes in our highways...... OK more than we do now! LOL

More reason to drive a Landy:D:D:D

GQ

DeeJay
18th October 2007, 01:39 PM
According to this article, we are'nt getting any tax cuts:nazilock:

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/10/17/1192300855733.html

Outback 1
18th October 2007, 01:42 PM
at least our cars won't be bothered too much by potholes:D my only concern is that for starters if we get the cuts and they drive interest rates up the poor old battlers will be worse off than they are now!also it's only a promise not a guarantee!;)

DaveS3
18th October 2007, 02:10 PM
Infrastructure deterioration rates is a fantastic topic. The modeling that can be achieved now is incredible but basically once the deterioration of certain types of infrastructure has begun, the damage (Cost) VS time rises exponentially. Obviously this is dependant on materials, climate, soil types, type & level of use.

I would love to see tax cut money for (higher income earners, low income earners can keep their much needed tax cuts) spent on infrastructure.

If a an effective maintenance program is achieved, the overall life costs of the infrastructure will be less to the public, than if it is neglected as most public (non influential) assets are.

But as said, this style of tax/income spend doesn't appeal to the average person and is therefore not seen as a benefit in comparison to the population receiving 0.01% of nothing back in their pockets.

I would love more tax $$$ in my pocket, but at the end of the day humans are greedy, money will never voluntarily be given to infrastructure development from the population. I am happy to see it be spent in infrastructure.

Although i am biased, this style of Government spending will suit my future career :D

Dave.

cookiesa
18th October 2007, 07:22 PM
at least our cars won't be bothered too much by potholes:D my only concern is that for starters if we get the cuts and they drive interest rates up the poor old battlers will be worse off than they are now!also it's only a promise not a guarantee!;)

Would that be a "core" promise LOL

Agree with you though, for a country that is experiencing "good" times there are far too many struggling

inside
18th October 2007, 07:33 PM
I don't care much for the tax cuts. What I do care for is my family is looked after if they need to go to hospital, my kids get good schooling and when they grow up they may be able to buy a house. I'd sacrifice $20 a week if a goverment could guarantee this.

Slunnie
18th October 2007, 08:21 PM
I voted for the funds to go back into infrastructure. What I would object to though, is that infrastructure being sold off in the future which seems to have become the trend.

Truthfully, the tax break is probably a marketing device for the upcoming election only.

BTW, I was also interested in the comment that long term means 3 years. Sadly it's probably too true and perhaps the tax break could be spent producing an Australian vision for the future and installing leadership to provide this which is binding to any party that becomes elected.

rick130
19th October 2007, 06:41 AM
an economist was asked how the tax cuts would affect the economy..

"the govt has it's foot on the accelerator and the Reserve Bank has it's foot on the brake. No wonder Australia is smoking"

Outback 1
19th October 2007, 10:22 AM
an economist was asked how the tax cuts would affect the economy..

"the govt has it's foot on the accelerator and the Reserve Bank has it's foot on the brake. No wonder Australia is smoking"
i would like to see our kids being able to afford to buy {and pay for }a house. The way it's going now the only way they will get one is to inherit it!:eek:

LRHybrid100
19th October 2007, 12:04 PM
if we get more tax cuts - fine in the short term, but no good in the long term, typical pollies!!!

more income more increases spending, increases inflation, increases borrowing - SO we will be paying for it in the future.

Just my 10c worth

LRH

LRHybrid100
19th October 2007, 12:06 PM
and would prefer to have free Doctors appointments, better public education, improved roads / trains etc

LRH

mns488
19th October 2007, 12:41 PM
i would like to see our kids being able to afford to buy {and pay for }a house. The way it's going now the only way they will get one is to inherit it!:eek:

Better than Japan, there you don't just inherit the house but also the mortgage:eek:.

LRHybrid100
19th October 2007, 01:18 PM
ahh but in Japan interest rates are vvvvvery low

LRH

HangOver
19th October 2007, 01:24 PM
there's no option for neither !

I think they should spend the surplus on police and emergency services, hospitals and schools.
These services have been crying out for funds for years.

failing that cut the duty paid on imported spirits :twisted: