Air con options Defender

[Gillie]

Well we just got back from Melbourne. We left on Saturday in the 130 defender and it was hot. about 30 degrees. Not real hot but the first hot day we have had for some time. Sunday saw about 35 degrees I believe.
It bought back memories as a child with vinyl seats and red hot seat belts! However this is the 21st Century and we should all be living on the moon.
Therefore What are my options for AC in the 130 defender (98 model 300 TDI).

I know of the OME kit that you can get. Not sure if anyone knows prices? But what about the ones that sit on the roof? Sure there big and ugly and I have no doubt that it will cop abuse from branches up the back. Are they any good? Prices.
Cheers
Sheridan

[Vern]

theres a guy on ebay (user name 58biscayne) that has all sorts of different kits a good prices, probably could adapt something.

[Gillie]

theres a guy on ebay (user name 58biscayne) that has all sorts of different kits a good prices, probably could adapt something.

user name 58biscayne has only bought three items off ebay with the last one being 19 march 02.?? Have I got the right guy?

[ladas]

There is another option - where you use the standard compressor and condenser - but use a 'mini bus' type evaporator - mounted in the rear area above the back door - or just behind the rear seats of a crew cab

I will dig out a few pics of the type I have in mind and post them up

[ladas]

Sorry can't seem to attach any file to the message

If you still want to view the types of evaporators I am on about - PM me with your email and I'll send it that way.

Bloody strange

[ladas]

Solved - see attached

Ladas

[Blknight.aus]

have you tried the 2-3-60 units yet?

very very effecient.

[1103.9TDI]

Like this?..................works off the standard compressor, highly efficient - this one cools the interior down to 4deg C - on a 38deg C day in Cairns!, more than enough capacity for a tourist coach, let alone a Landy..........

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4610363)

..................costs lots........you might find one on a wrecked coach, or ask around....prices vary greatly.....

[Gillie]

There is another option - where you use the standard compressor and condenser - but use a 'mini bus' type evaporator - mounted in the rear area above the back door - or just behind the rear seats of a crew cab

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Maybe worth considering. Thanks for the idea.

[Gillie]

Like this?..................works off the standard compressor, highly efficient - this one cools the interior down to 4deg C - on a 38deg C day in Cairns!, more than enough capacity for a tourist coach, let alone a Landy..........

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4610363)

..................costs lots........you might find one on a wrecked coach, or ask around....prices vary greatly.....


Now your talking! Thats the go! Any more info? Any inside pics? I was looking at these http://www.denso.com.au/products/aftermarket_automotive_components/bus_a_c

Fairly slim line looking unit. How much is "lots" ?

[1103.9TDI]

Got it installed by an aircond place in Cairns that a mate worked for, the major components had been pre-ordered to go into a tourist coach operation that went broke. I offered them some cash, and my mate installed it cheap, total of about $1200. From memory, it is a 21000btu unit that operates from my standard compressor. It is very efficient and even on the warmest days in Cairns, we leave it on quarter strength, with the fan on two out of five, which means it takes very little power from the engine. The condenser sits on the roof above the driver/front pax, and air is forced up into it when moving forward, regardless of the two big thermo fans.
Inside it has a forward facing unit, mounted just below the roof lining, behind the rear pax seats, blowing cold air forward. Besides being a great air cond, it is also an excellent demister. I wouldn't know how much you'd pay now, but my mate reckons close to $4k, using your compressor!. He said look around the truck wreckers, sometimes trucks and machinery use this type of gear. My main reason for going this way was so I'd have room for a turbo......Another mate of mine runs an Isuzu County, and his standard aircond is ok - for the two people up front - just!......Now for a heater!!.

[EchiDna]

bit late I know... but I'm considering this type of unit:

pdf link - 52A current draw though!!!
http://www.delphidiavia.it/Uploads/Prodotti/Marketing/Ap_%20Speciali/CLIM/CLEVELAND.pdf

this one is 23A current draw...
http://www.delphidiavia.it/Uploads/Prodotti/Marketing/Ap_%20Speciali/CLIM/KIEV.pdf

geez they have a heap of em...
http://www.delphidiavia.it/Uploads/Prodotti/Marketing/Ap_%20Speciali/CLIM/LONDON.pdf

Ladas et al, any thoughts on the required cooling capacity to chill a defender properly? is 9kw sufficient?

[rick130]

I'm pretty sure someone on Outerlimits fitted a Red Dot unit in either a 110 or 'fender. Supposedly a lot more efficient than the original Oz fitted system.
The original 'fender system was made by AMC who are no longer in business. Just out of curiosities sake, anyone know who has made them for LRA in recent years ?

[Scouse]

The original 'fender system was made by AMC who are no longer in business. Just out of curiosities sake, anyone know who has made them for LRA in recent years ?Since AMC shut down, all the Defenders with A/C are factory fitted.
Factory fit A/C has the extended nose.

[isuzurover]

Like this?..................works off the standard compressor, highly efficient - this one cools the interior down to 4deg C - on a 38deg C day in Cairns!, more than enough capacity for a tourist coach, let alone a Landy..........

http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/1/2604290141.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4610363)

..................costs lots........you might find one on a wrecked coach, or ask around....prices vary greatly.....

How heavy is that thing Gerry? And how high?

[rick130]

Since AMC shut down, all the Defenders with A/C are factory fitted.
Factory fit A/C has the extended nose.


(sound of hand slapping forehead) makes sense :rolleyes:

[Vern]

user name 58biscayne has only bought three items off ebay with the last one being 19 march 02.?? Have I got the right guy?
Sorry stupid me, its 58biscayne4dr

[andrew e]

get a 2000W inverter and one of these.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Dometic-B3254-Motorhome-Bus-Roof-Top-Air-Conditioner_W0QQitemZ190164879581QQihZ009QQcategor yZ102703QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Andy

[rick130]

get a 2000W inverter and one of these.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Dometic-B3254-Motorhome-Bus-Roof-Top-Air-Conditioner_W0QQitemZ190164879581QQihZ009QQcategor yZ102703QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Andy

an inverter doesn't have a hope in hell of running that. ;)