Crazy John....dies age 42

[stevo68]

Hey All,

Was watching news last night and saw that "Crazy John" died of a heart attack at age 42, one of Australia's wealthiest men from very humble beginnings, 4 children and a wife he leaves behind. Was heavily involved in charities and fund raising. Apparently a fit bugger..............but smoked very heavily.

What surprises me is that you have a bloke who was pretty well known who hardly rates a bleep, if at all on this forum or some of the others I frequent. But if a footyplayer is hit up for a drug bust or allegedly carks it due to drugs, it is interesting the different response :angel:.

Do we admire lairy, drug taking footballers over people successful in other fields? Most likely and sadly, me thinks,

Regards

Stevo

[Redback]

Hey All,

Was watching news last night and saw that "Crazy John" died of a heart attack at age 42, one of Australia's wealthiest men from very humble beginnings, 4 children and a wife he leaves behind. Was heavily involved in charities and fund raising. Apparently a fit bugger..............but smoked very heavily.

What surprises me is that you have a bloke who was pretty well known who hardly rates a bleep, if at all on this forum or some of the others I frequent. But if a footyplayer is hit up for a drug bust or allegedly carks it due to drugs, it is interesting the different response :angel:.

Do we admire lairy, drug taking footballers over people successful in other fields? Most likely and sadly, me thinks,

Regards

Stevo

Never heard of him, but then again, never heard of most of the footballers that have been in the news lately either.

What does that say about me:angel:

Baz.

[BigJon]

I too noted his passing.

I wasn't aware that he was a smoker, surely "a fit bugger ........... bu smoked very heavily" is an oxymoron of sorts.

Maybe people like him aren't so blatantly in the public eye, hence don't get the same attention as footballers, etc.

[stevo68]

Never heard of him, but then again, never heard of most of the footballers that have been in the news lately either.

What does that say about me:angel:

Baz. Says nothing bar you hadnt heard of him :D, but chances are you know of Crazy Johns Mobile Phones and if you ever watched the league they had that mascot,

Regards

Stevo

[Redback]

Says nothing bar you hadnt heard of him :D, but chances are you know of Crazy Johns Mobile Phones and if you ever watched the league they had that mascot,

Regards

Stevo

Still don't know him, might be the fact that i don't watch the league:no2:

I was thinking of bringing up the grammar and spelling mistakes, but i'll leave that up to you;)

To young too die though:(

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Still don't know him, might be the fact that i don't watch the league:no2:

or bought a mobile in the southern states,,,

[Redback]

or bought a mobile in the southern states,,,

Got my last mobile from Grace Bros/Myer:p

[ak]

Anyone that passes away leaving a young family behind, it's terrible regardless of them being wealthy or not.

[Greylandy]

What surprises me is that you have a bloke who was pretty well known who hardly rates a bleep, if at all on this forum or some of the others I frequent. But if a footyplayer is hit up for a drug bust or allegedly carks it due to drugs, it is interesting the different response :angel:.

Do we admire lairy, drug taking footballers over people successful in other fields? Most likely and sadly, me thinks,

Regards

Stevo

Football players are more interesting, or at least are perceived to have more interesting jobs/lives. Nobody wants to read or hear about an executive who made another million .. boring! That is why you don't see "American Executive" or "Clean Jobs" on Discovery Channel ;)

People who perform in the entertainment industry will always enjoy the admiration of the masses. Personally, the whole concept of one person idolising another is wrong. Role models are as far as it should go!

[scrambler]

Heard last night on the ABC radio financial report. The "investment advice" that followed was basically "money ain't everything." Great to see a success story, a real pity he didn;t live to enjoy it, and a greater pity that his family won't have him around.

[Greylandy]

The news rarely carries anything about good things that happen...its predominantly about BAD news, which is why being busted for drugs gets mentioned but donating a cool million to allergy research does not :mad:


I agree, BAD news gets more coverage but donating to a charity should be done under the radar. If people only give for the sake of getting noticed, rewarded, tax breaks .. they should not bother!

[BigJon]

If people only give for the sake of getting noticed, rewarded, tax breaks .. they should not bother!

I bet the charities don't see it that way! Especially when it is large sums of money. Surely they are better off with the donations than without them.

[stevo68]

I agree, BAD news gets more coverage but donating to a charity should be done under the radar. If people only give for the sake of getting noticed, rewarded, tax breaks .. they should not bother! What a negative comment, firstly if you noted in NM's post
which is why being busted for drugs gets mentioned but donating a cool million to allergy research does not :angry:. I also have heard the same sort of comment when Bill Gates was donating millions upon millions to some charity/ medical cause. They were also using Microsoft and there was an underlying attitude that the $$$ should be given with/ without the requirement for using MS products. As BigJon posted
I bet the charities don't see it that way! Especially when it is large sums of money. Surely they are better off with the donations than without them.

Anyhow the main reason for the post was a) someone at age 42 dies of a heart attack, I'm 39 and just quit the smokes, it makes me think.Then b) just the difference between a well known footballer ( not to everyone) dies of suspected drug OD, the forums light up. A well known ( again not to everyone) business man and philanthropist dies of a sudden heart attack and zip, bar on the news. Just thought interesting,

Regards

Stevo

P.S Hope that is better for you Redback :2up::tease:

[loanrangie]

Anyone that passes away leaving a young family behind, it's terrible regardless of them being wealthy or not.

Very true, he was capaigning not long ago to get more funding for childrens disease's , 1 of his daughters has a severe food alergy to nuts etc.

[Quiggers]

Crazy John, from what little I saw of him as his business is not represented in this region, was not a self seeking media tart.

I believe his energies went into the business.

There are many other very rich individuals who are publicity shy, and for good reason.

Footballers and the like are in the public gaze, due to their career. People follow 'football' and as a consequence, follow players and are interested in them, for whatever reason. Some players don't overly help themselves either, by seeking 'publicity'.

There are many magazines with vast circulations that pander to an eager, awaiting readership.

(Some) people want sensational gossip - I'm constantly asked to run gossip in the local paper I run, but I don't, which I think disappoints some readers...

GQ

[landyfromanuthaland]

Cant rubbish the footy boys coz I like cricket but ol Warney gets in enough strife he can share some among those that need a top up of there bad things to do list.
Always sad when anyone dies, successful or not, if you smoke you are really playing with fire, you can be fit as a malley bull and die jogging, or you can smoke and drink and live until you are 80 or a bus can get you anytime, you never know when the big fella wants you to join him. Sorry for Crazys family am sure he was a good bloke.

[Greylandy]

What a negative comment, firstly if you noted in NM's post . I also have heard the same sort of comment when Bill Gates was donating millions upon millions to some charity/ medical cause. They were also using Microsoft and there was an underlying attitude that the $$$ should be given with/ without the requirement for using MS products.

Anyhow the main reason for the post was a) someone at age 42 dies of a heart attack, I'm 39 and just quit the smokes, it makes me think.Then b) just the difference between a well known footballer ( not to everyone) dies of suspected drug OD, the forums light up. A well known ( again not to everyone) business man and philanthropist dies of a sudden heart attack and zip, bar on the news. Just thought interesting,


I don't see why my comment was negative. I said: "If people only give for the sake of getting noticed, rewarded, tax breaks .. they should not bother!" (Note the word in bold .. just in case you miss it again!)

Giving to charity to get free publicity or to flog your products is ... IMHO .. a business transaction and should be referred to as one. Yes, both parties benefit and I don't have a problem with that (insert Bill Gates example) but when people genuinely offer a donation in empathy of another human being or whatever cause, without expecting anyting in return there is no reason why it shouldn't be done anonymously. That is my point.

... and yes Stevo, we did get the main reason of your post ... see my first reply.

[BigJon]

"If people only give for the sake of getting noticed, rewarded, tax breaks .. they should not bother!" (Note the word in bold .. just in case you miss it again!)


Because what you are advocating still means the charities would miss out.

[Greylandy]

I bet the charities don't see it that way! Especially when it is large sums of money. Surely they are better off with the donations than without them.

Agree 100% Jon .. charities will not and should not reject such a donation but when a charity can offer some benefits to the large company donating millions .. is it still a charity donation or does it become a business partnership where both parties benefit?

Going back to my reply to Stevo, if giving is ONLY done to benefit oneself .. my personal view is .. you don't have a charitable heart and should not bother.

[Greylandy]

Because what you are advocating still means the charities would miss out.

Good point ...

[stevo68]

I don't see why my comment was negative. I said: "If people only give for the sake of getting noticed, rewarded, tax breaks .. they should not bother!" (Note the word in bold .. just in case you miss it again!)

Giving to charity to get free publicity or to flog your products is ... IMHO .. a business transaction and should be referred to as one. Yes, both parties benefit and I don't have a problem with that (insert Bill Gates example) but when people genuinely offer a donation in empathy of another human being or whatever cause, without expecting anyting in return there is no reason why it shouldn't be done anonymously. That is my point.

... and yes Stevo, we did get the main reason of your post ... see my first reply. Aside from the fact that SWMBO says that since giving up the smokes I have turned into a grumpy old ***** who is up for a barney at a moments notice :D, I think in relation to the "theme" of the thread it was negative. In other words it wasn't relevant or needed to be bought up.

And yes people should bother, no matter what the motive is. There is always a motivation and feeling of "self goodness" in helping out those less fortunate, whether that is known or anonymous. As long as the funds are being donated.....who care's. Isn't the end result more important?? Anyhoo starting to get off point now :angel:

Regards

Stevo

[dirtdawg]

i used to donate around 10k a year to charity as a tax break and so wat it its good for me the way i see it its better in their pocket than the tax man and if i have to give it to someone i would rather it was them

[Redback]

What a negative comment, firstly if you noted in NM's post . I also have heard the same sort of comment when Bill Gates was donating millions upon millions to some charity/ medical cause. They were also using Microsoft and there was an underlying attitude that the $$$ should be given with/ without the requirement for using MS products. As BigJon posted

Anyhow the main reason for the post was a) someone at age 42 dies of a heart attack, I'm 39 and just quit the smokes, it makes me think.Then b) just the difference between a well known footballer ( not to everyone) dies of suspected drug OD, the forums light up. A well known ( again not to everyone) business man and philanthropist dies of a sudden heart attack and zip, bar on the news. Just thought interesting,

Regards

Stevo

P.S Hope that is better for you Redback :2up::tease:

:Rolling:

Baz.

[dobbo]

Are you sure he was drug free? From memory he was financing some chick on drug charges a couple of year ago.

But I'm just assuming 1 + 1 = 3

[Wazza]

Are you sure he was drug free? From memory he was financing some chick on drug charges a couple of year ago.

But I'm just assuming 1 + 1 = 3

I could be wrong but i thought that was Crazy Ron.....and shepelle corby.

[dobbo]

I could be wrong but i thought that was Crazy Ron.....and shepelle corby.


I am sorry, you are right.



I am wrong

[DeeJay]

Interestingly there were only two death notices in the "Age" today, one from the National Bank and one from St Catherines, a poshy Toorak girls school.
Whilst he died yesterday morning around 7 am it was hushed up so employees etc could be notified. I'm sure there will be heaps of notices tomorrow. It does bug me though when a high profile person dies and companies/ schools put in a death notice that is almost an advertisement. The public schools here absolutely make it laughable. If someone went there for even a month and hated it I bet they would put in a notice and B/S on.
I guess that the combination of a stressfull business life and smoking took its toll here. It seemed to me that he simply couldnt slow down. A lot of colleagues quoted him as being driven. Very sad for those left without him.

[DirtyDawg]

The news rarely carries anything about good things that happen...its predominantly about BAD news, which is why being busted for drugs gets mentioned but donating a cool million to allergy research does not :mad:

Young for a heart attack but then, a lot more heart attacks are happening in young people these days. Our high stress, high convenience, fast lifestyle maybe?

I can think of 300,000,000 ways of why he wouldn't be stressed..
Its just fate, when your number is up it is up.
I have had several 'Should have been dead accidents" in my life, lucky for me it wasn't my time yet.

[Loaded]

I can think of 300,000,000 ways of why he wouldn't be stressed..
Its just fate, when your number is up it is up.
I have had several 'Should have been dead accidents" in my life, lucky for me it wasn't my time yet.

Yep I agree its going to happen when it happens and that's it.

I saw a show on Crazy John the night before then the next day I walk into the servo and his listed dead on the front page of the paper.
All very weired and just looks like fate.