School 1957 vs School 2007

[Cap]

Sad thing is that this isnt really exaggerating...

SCHOOL 1957 vs. SCHOOL 2007

Scenario: Jack goes quail hunting before school, pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack.
1957 - Vice principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his own shotgun to show Jack.
2007 - School goes into lockdown, the RCMP are called, Jack is hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors are called in to assist traumatized students and teachers.

Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.
1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2007 - Police are called, SWAT team arrives and arrests Johnny and Mark. They are charged with assault and both are expelled even though Johnny started it.

Scenario: Jeffrey won't sit still in class, disrupts other students.
1957 - Jeffrey is sent to the principal's office and given a good paddling. Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.
2007 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADD. School gets extra prov incial funding because Jeffrey has a disability.

Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his neighbour's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.
2007 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang . State psychologist tells Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has an affair with the psychologist.

Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some Aspirin to school.
1957 - Mark shares Aspirin with the school principal out on the smoking dock.
2007 - Police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations. His car is searched for drugs and weapons.

Scenario: Pedro fails high-school English.
1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.
2007 - Pedro's cause is taken up by local human rights group. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that making English a requirement for graduation is racist. Canadian Civil Liberties Asso ciation files class action lawsuit against provincial school system and Pedro's English teacher. English is banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.

Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover Canada Day firecrackers, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up an anthill.
1957 - Ants die.
2007 - Canadian Firearms Centre and the RCMP are called and Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. CSIS investigates parents, siblings are removed from the home, computers are confiscated, and Johnny's dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.

Scenario: Johnny falls during recess and scrapes his knee. His teacher, Mary, finds him crying, and gives him a hug to comfort him.
1957 - Johnny soon feels better and goes back to playing.
2007 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces three years in federal prison. Johnny unde rgoes five years of therapy.

[FenianEel]

Scenario: Pedro fails high-school English.
Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.

Pedro, is there something you didn't tell us?
I didn't know you were a Canadian mexican! :D

[Rovernaut]

I'm 48 now but when I was 18 years old before I got my car licence , I did this.
Went to Alcock and Pearce in Melbourne City, purchased Auot shot gun.
Purchased gun bag, left store, walked down Swanston street carrying gun to Flinders Street staion. got on train to Elsternwick.
Then on week end.
Took Shotgun on Tram to City, got on Train at Spencer Street carrying Shotgun in bag, travelled to Castlemaine, where I caught a taxi to Campbells Creek. Went Rabbit shooting and was picked up by the taxi I had organized to return at a certain time. And did the same trip home.
These days the ADF and the Police Swat team would have had me nailed at Flinders street.
I hate what our world is coming to:(

[Quiggers]

I don't remember too much of this time,

born in 1957, I had to wait a few days before enrolling:D:D:D

crawling to school, a sheep on the back, dragging the lame horse, and that was the easy part...

...getting grandad out of a south sydney pub at 6pm was a problem:D:D:D:D:D

GQ

[Outlaw]

:no2: too true (once you take the american/canadianism's with a pinch of salt)

[Pedro_The_Swift]

nothing like playing ice hockey wearing a sombrero:p

[Quarks]

When I was at school (last year), the science staffroom door had a ~30y.o. aerial photograph of the school - including the rifle range down the back!

...lucky buggers! :mad:

I notice responsibility has been dropped from the curriculum over 57-07 :angel:

[barryj]

I'm 48 now but when I was 18 years old before I got my car licence , I did this.
Went to Alcock and Pearce in Melbourne City, purchased Auot shot gun.
Purchased gun bag, left store, walked down Swanston street carrying gun to Flinders Street staion. got on train to Elsternwick.
Then on week end.
Took Shotgun on Tram to City, got on Train at Spencer Street carrying Shotgun in bag, travelled to Castlemaine, where I caught a taxi to Campbells Creek. Went Rabbit shooting and was picked up by the taxi I had organized to return at a certain time. And did the same trip home.
These days the ADF and the Police Swat team would have had me nailed at Flinders street.
I hate what our world is coming to:(

We are about the same age.

When I was attending TAFE as a student back in the mid '70's, I had to catch a train and bus to college as I was too young for a car license let alone being able to afford a car on apprentice wages.

I got off the train a Roma Street Station in Brisbane and followed a swaggie, yep a swaggie, up George street to the bus stop.

He had a swag over one shoulder and a .22 slung over the other with the bolt still in. Funny thing is that the main cop shop was just over the road from the train station and the bus stop was in front of the court house.

Plenty of cops and lawyers with those funny wigs just pushed past us on their way to work.

Just try that these days :angel:.

[Quiggers]

All this sounds like yesterday at my kids high school, the teachers were 'freaking out' due to another hail storm.

The school is 'very worried' about any form of litigation...

...the kids couldn't care less... the storm was secondary - their shrieking was due to the teachers response to an 'issue'.... or was that 'isssss youuuu':D:D:D

GQ

[JDNSW]

Hmn - 1957 I was in the High School rifle club - used to shoot at Long Bay. Carried Lee-Enfield (minus bolt) home from school on Friday before shoots, on public transport, then on Saturday across the entire metropolitan area and back, then back to school again on Monday.

No eyebrows raised. Occasionally we had sessions with .22 conversions at the miniature rifle range at the Lancer Barracks in Parramatta - 50m from the railway station.

John

[justinc]

Hey Stooge,

That was excellent, and unfortunately I can see it could happen!!!

Good one.

JC

[Killer]

I went to a High School in country Victoria, for sports on Friday we had both a Clay Pidgeon Club and a Small Bore Club. Rifles for the small bore we kept at the clubhouse, but the clay bird shooters carried their shotguns to school with them on the bus, we even had a reloading facility set up under the school.

Cheers, Mick.

[FenianEel]

All this sounds like yesterday at my kids high school, the teachers were 'freaking out' due to another hail storm.

The school is 'very worried' about any form of litigation...

...the kids couldn't care less... the storm was secondary - their shrieking was due to the teachers response to an 'issue'.... or was that 'isssss youuuu':D:D:D

GQ

They don't go to Summer Heights High do they Quiggers?

[barryj]

I remember clearly the first cadet parade I attended at Wynnum State High School.

We were read the riot act and then shown the 1917 era 303's that we would be parading with and using on bivouacs.

The guy out from put a steel can over the end of the rifle and fired off a blank. The can went sky high with the bottom blown out. This was to show us that blanks can kill.

Just try that in a residential area these days.

By the time I left school in grade 10 the rifles had the bolts welded up and the cadet unit degraded due to funding cuts. I guess the end of the Vietnam conflict had a lot to do with this.

[FenianEel]

I used to go through our farm and the cane fields at Bli Bli, shooting rabbits and foxes. Often making our way with .22's to Yandina for lunch at a takeaway in the main street. Or on the back of a cane tram through the main drag of Nambour.
We were probably 12 yo and dressed in 'greens', with an M7 bayonet and Machete hanging from our web belts:D
No one batted an eyelid, and that was only in the early 80s :D

[RonMcGr]

Ah, memories :)
My Brother and I used to go to the Rabbito and sell him the gutted rabbits that we had trapped in the morning, before going to School.

Up at 0600 checking the traps, catch the School bus at 0745, into Keith SA., by 0820, run down to the Rabbito and back by 0900 assembly.

It was good pocket money, 60 cents a pair (in todays money) :D

[JDNSW]

I think one of the big influences that is missing now, is that as a result of two world wars, up to the 1960s at least, everyone in any position of authority was either an ex-serviceman or had closely associated with them during the war, and understood and generally accepted discipline, as well as, for example, weapons handling.

This is no longer the case.

John

[Slunnie]

My school still has a rifle range and the students shoot regularly in the range and within sporting competitions. Its a great experience and over the last 175 years hasn't created any killers.

[Bigbjorn]

I think one of the big influences that is missing now, is that as a result of two world wars, up to the 1960s at least, everyone in any position of authority was either an ex-serviceman or had closely associated with them during the war, and understood and generally accepted discipline, as well as, for example, weapons handling.

This is no longer the case.

John

JD, you would remember that certain occupations were reserved for ex-servicemen, and many industries were obliged to give preference in employment to
ex-servicemen. I certainly remember in the 50's and 60's often seeing school cadets & rifle club members on public transport in Brisbane with weapons, and others carrying weapons to and from gunshops and gunsmiths. Our mini range was almost in the centre of Brisbane being in a brick building between St. James school and Centenary Place. School cadet corps stored .303 rifles, Bren guns, Vickers guns and mortars in buildings on the school grounds. Buildings that mostly could have been broken into with a tyre lever.

[barryj]

I think one of the big influences that is missing now, is that as a result of two world wars, up to the 1960s at least, everyone in any position of authority was either an ex-serviceman or had closely associated with them during the war, and understood and generally accepted discipline, as well as, for example, weapons handling.

This is no longer the case.

John

Spot on comment! The majority of men who were leaders in clubs and organisations that I been involved with had been in the services. I was going to say ex-servicemen but they always displayed examples of leadership and commitment so I refer to them with respect.

Self control and dedication to the task is what I see lacking in society. It annoys me that the current generation have the tag of generation Y (why).

A lot of these young people think they have the right to question everything. Sometimes they would be better off just doing what has been tried and tested.

[mike_beecham]

All l am going to say about education is this:

"Parents who think their child is NEVER wrong" + "Prinicpals running scared who sides with mental parents through fear of A Current Affair rolling in the school gates." = Teachers who just give up.

One gets sick of being slandered, defamed and threatened by parents who have noo idea what their ******** of kid is REALLY like!!!



Rant Over.


Beechy

[JDNSW]

......School cadet corps stored .303 rifles, Bren guns, Vickers guns and mortars in buildings on the school grounds. Buildings that mostly could have been broken into with a tyre lever.

From memory the school I went to stored around a hundred Lee-Enfields, one Vickers and two Brens. In my view the store would actually have been rather difficult to break into - and it never was while I was there anyway.

As a commentary on present society, when I visited the school recently I noted that it was deemed necessary to provide the computer room with 2cm steel bars on all the windows and the door replaced with one (in a steel frame) made of double 6mm steel, and fitted with a safe type combination lock with all round bolting. This in addition to motion detectors in the corridors and bars barred doors added inside the outside doors. The school library is walled off from the rest of the school by a barrier and door of 25mm bars 10cm apart from floor to ceiling. Nothing more than an ordinary padbolt while I was there except for the armory.

John

[Slunnie]

All l am going to say about education is this:

"Parents who think their child is NEVER wrong" + "Prinicpals running scared who sides with mental parents through fear of A Current Affair rolling in the school gates." = Teachers who just give up.

One gets sick of being slandered, defamed and threatened by parents who have noo idea what their ******** of kid is REALLY like!!!



Rant Over.


Beechy
The other thing that I've noticed, is that when a school is trying to point a kid down the straight and narrow and there is not support from the parents (perhaps trying to be the kids friend, rather than providing whats best needed), the kid almost always comes unstuck. Parents and schools that work together generally get it right.

I saw this time and time again.

[Hymie]

All this sounds like yesterday at my kids high school, the teachers were 'freaking out' due to another hail storm.

The school is 'very worried' about any form of litigation...

...the kids couldn't care less... the storm was secondary - their shrieking was due to the teachers response to an 'issue'.... or was that 'isssss youuuu':D:D:D

GQ

I absolutely despise the modern use of the word, issue.
Iprefer to use the word, Problem
Issues are just something to talk about, problems are something to fix.
Politicians and Social Workers waffle on a bout issues when they need to be fixing problems.

My rant bit for today....

[Tank]

From memory the school I went to stored around a hundred Lee-Enfields, one Vickers and two Brens. In my view the store would actually have been rather difficult to break into - and it never was while I was there anyway.

As a commentary on present society, when I visited the school recently I noted that it was deemed necessary to provide the computer room with 2cm steel bars on all the windows and the door replaced with one (in a steel frame) made of double 6mm steel, and fitted with a safe type combination lock with all round bolting. This in addition to motion detectors in the corridors and bars barred doors added inside the outside doors. The school library is walled off from the rest of the school by a barrier and door of 25mm bars 10cm apart from floor to ceiling. Nothing more than an ordinary padbolt while I was there except for the armory.

John
John, was it Fort Street Boys high in Petersham, sounds very familar, same sort of setup, we had range rifles, which were lee Enfields 303's with .22 cal. barrels and we had a range in the school grounds (playground). We (Army Cadets) used to take our 303's home, minus bolt, on public transport, this was around 1960, a few years later I used to ride my bike from Balmain to Long Bay rifle range and the SSAA range at Baulkham Hills with my Lee Enfield no.4 slung over my back, hard work but good fun, Regards Frank.

[JDNSW]

John, was it Fort Street Boys high in Petersham, ..........

Nope - Parramatta High.

John

[mike_beecham]

Slunnie you are a wise man!


Hit the nail on the head.....

[Bigbjorn]

I remember clearly the first cadet parade I attended at Wynnum State High School.

We were read the riot act and then shown the 1917 era 303's that we would be parading with and using on bivouacs.

The guy out from put a steel can over the end of the rifle and fired off a blank. The can went sky high with the bottom blown out. This was to show us that blanks can kill.

Just try that in a residential area these days.

By the time I left school in grade 10 the rifles had the bolts welded up and the cadet unit degraded due to funding cuts. I guess the end of the Vietnam conflict had a lot to do with this.

Would not have been surprised to find teachers at Wynnum high were "carrying".

[Disco Steve]

Maybe they were the ones leaving the "presents" on the special ed room's carpet :eek::Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:

:wasntme:

[barryj]

Would not have been surprised to find teachers at Wynnum high were "carrying".

It was a rough school indeed. A lot of the students I knew are either dead or in jail.

On my first day in grade 8 I went to school in full uniform. Long socks, tie and felt hat. Billy Roebottom and his gang soon sorted that out :bat:.

I was glad to leave at the end of grade 10.

Funny thing is that we lived in Joffre Street which is only about 300m from Wynnum North High where the smart kids went.

I guess Mum and Dad wanted to toughen me up ready for the real world :angel:.

It certainly prepared me for an apprenticeship in cabinetmaking where initiations were the norm :(.

[Bigbjorn]

It was a rough school indeed. A lot of the students I knew are either dead or in jail.

On my first day in grade 8 I went to school in full uniform. Long socks, tie and felt hat. Billy Roebottom and his gang soon sorted that out :bat:.

I:(.

Wynumm was and is a rough district. Land values will eventually gentrify the suburb as the old residents die or move, as has happened elsewhere. I know Willy Rowbotham professionally. He looks pretty battered these days, drugs and booze and hidings, and he has had a few "holidays" on the Govt. purse. Last I saw Willy, he was helping his stepfather get through a dozen longnecks of XXXX heavy. They had got through most of the carton before 11.00am without even bothering to put it in the rerigerator, just left it on the kitchen table.

[barryj]

Wynumm was and is a rough district. Land values will eventually gentrify the suburb as the old residents die or move, as has happened elsewhere. I know Willy Rowbotham professionally. He looks pretty battered these days, drugs and booze and hidings, and he has had a few "holidays" on the Govt. purse. Last I saw Willy, he was helping his stepfather get through a dozen longnecks of XXXX heavy. They had got through most of the carton before 11.00am without even bothering to put it in the rerigerator, just left it on the kitchen table.


Thanks for telling me his real name.

As a school lad I thought he was Billy, well when you are being urinated on things get a little hazy :o.

I think he left school to work at the abattoir so one guy I worked for told me.

30 years ago I never would have even contemplated living at Hemmant, but here we are.

Housing prices and especially rents have sent a lot of the undesirable folk away.

There are still a few 'choice families' here but the cops are giving them the message.

[Quiggers]

I think one of the big influences that is missing now, is that as a result of two world wars, up to the 1960s at least, everyone in any position of authority was either an ex-serviceman or had closely associated with them during the war, and understood and generally accepted discipline, as well as, for example, weapons handling.

This is no longer the case.

John

Indeed, John.

I did high school from 1970 to 1974. Many of our teachers were ex WWII and they were the best, John Duire, our English master, was apparently a WWII spy!
He was fabulous!

North Ryde Primary: The primary teachers (1964-1969) were even more fascinating, one had been a tail end charlie in a lanc, the guv was ex Whitehall, Mr Svans (my 4th year) ran across Europe during WWII from Latvia. There was a mysteriously elegant femme from Estonia, who taught us about that world and its recent history in our 6th year...

I'd love to see the kids these days, who consume so much information, spend time with those who were my 'teachers'.

That said, teachers these days must have an enormously difficult job...

GQ

[Quiggers]

I absolutely despise the modern use of the word, issue.
Iprefer to use the word, Problem
Issues are just something to talk about, problems are something to fix.
Politicians and Social Workers waffle on a bout issues when they need to be fixing problems.

My rant bit for today....

Got an 'issyoo', hymie?:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Some of the uni lecturing mob I sometimes work with do it with a lisp - and that's the females:D:D;)

Newspeak annoys me. As does SCOSE, since when has a country north of us been known as Indow-kneeessss-ia?

I get myself in some trouble with those so called keepers of the lingo. :D:D:D;)

[100I]

1957 - Jeffrey is sent to the principal's office and given a good paddling. Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.
2007 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADD. School gets extra prov incial funding because Jeffrey has a disability.


I don't remember 1957 :D
but they're all sadly close to the mark.

The one that gets me is this outrageous ADD phenomenon. I don't buy into it. Of all my friends & colleagues kids I've met who were hyperactive, every single one of them was strung out on junk food/softdrink/cordial/lollies/etc. Not one of them ate decent food. Pumped full of uppers to 'cure' them but the 50/50 mix red cordial couldn't be the culprit!
When I was a kid it was pretty simple; sugary foods sent kids around the bend & when the crash came kids were 'difficult'.
Do people just not understand this now or don't they look at the side of the carton?

And no, for the record I don't have kids, but when I do they will be adorable little angels won't they?


:Rolling:

[Redback]

I don't remember too much of this time,

born in 1957, I had to wait a few days before enrolling:D:D:D

crawling to school, a sheep on the back, dragging the lame horse, and that was the easy part...

...getting grandad out of a south sydney pub at 6pm was a problem:D:D:D:D:D

GQ

I did that 2 years earlier, except it was the Imperial hotel in Moree:D:D

Baz.

[Bigbjorn]

I think he left school to work at the abattoir so one guy I worked for told me.

30 years ago I never would have even contemplated living at Hemmant, but here we are.

.

Willy has done precious little work in the last twenty odd years, being either in gaol, or on the rock'n roll.

I know what you mean about Hemmant. When I first worked at Wynnum, Hemmant was referred to as "the shacks in the swamp". As to Wynnum also, when I first went to the job there, my old mum asked me if Wynnum was still "where all the poor people lived". Both suburbs have changed a good bit in the last twenty years.

[UncleHo]

G'day Folks :)

When the new Balmoral State High School began in 1958, the students were quite proud of the fact that in their 1st year they had broken Qld's (including Wynnum High's) Pregnancy record and the number of Expellsions :) first expellsion was for somebody bringing a pistol to school and going down to "Tahiti" at lunch time and shooting ducks :D most of these wonderfull students were drawn from Bulimba, Morningside, Norman Park,CannonHill, and Hemmant, a lot of their parents were meatworkers,stockmen,wharfies,or tradesmen,a real working class area, those that grew up in that area will remember that the "Star" theatre was burnt down by some ejected patrons in the late 50's :eek: "Bodgies" what Bodgies?? I didn;t see anything! ;)

BUT there were no Drugs, but most of could chugg a Tallie by 17:D

cheers

BTW. I am not a big Beer drinker now, wonder why:angel:

[barryj]

Willy has done precious little work in the last twenty odd years, being either in gaol, or on the rock'n roll.

I know what you mean about Hemmant. When I first worked at Wynnum, Hemmant was referred to as "the shacks in the swamp". As to Wynnum also, when I first went to the job there, my old mum asked me if Wynnum was still "where all the poor people lived". Both suburbs have changed a good bit in the last twenty years.

I don't think it has rained as hard as it used to. Maybe our place will be swamp bound when it does rain :o:(.

At least the industry smells have gone, and the mozzies have left mostly for other areas.

[JDNSW]

.......and the mozzies have left mostly for other areas.

Wait until the rain returns......

John

[Bigbjorn]

G'day Folks :)

When the new Balmoral State High School began in 1958, the students were quite proud of the fact that in their 1st year they had broken Qld's (including Wynnum High's) Pregnancy record and the number of Expellsions :) first expellsion was for somebody bringing a pistol to school and going down to "Tahiti" at lunch time and shooting ducks :D most of these wonderfull students were drawn from Bulimba, Morningside, Norman Park,CannonHill, and Hemmant, a lot of their parents were meatworkers,stockmen,wharfies,or tradesmen,a real working class area, those that grew up in that area will remember that the "Star" theatre was burnt down by some ejected patrons in the late 50's :eek: "Bodgies" what Bodgies?? I didn;t see anything! ;)

BUT there were no Drugs, but most of could chugg a Tallie by 17:D

cheers

BTW. I am not a big Beer drinker now, wonder why:angel:

Hi Ho. You forgot to mention the Painters and Dockers who held sway at the Shafston and the Balmoral pubs. Their deeds would make a good book. What happened to "Tahiti"? Did it get filled in and built over? I had almost forgot about it. Bal High is still a pretty rough school. Where was the Star cinema? I can recall the Hawthorne, Avro, Astra, Norman Park, Mowbray Park, Triumph, Roxy, and Planet in the district but not the Star. What high school pregnancies were you involved in?

[Grizzly_Adams]

What high school pregnancies were you involved in?

:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling::Rolling::Rolling::Roll ing::Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:

[UncleHo]

G'day Brian Hjelm :)

The "Star" was at Wynnum:) a few of the boys and girls got thrown out and it burnt down Mysteriously :angel: then they would catch the train up to the Astra at M/side or the Flea Pit at Norman Park, lost a couple of front teeth there one Sat night:( my introduction to the NEW Family size Coke bottles (glass) but I heard his jaw crack when I hit him with the Tyre lever that was down in my boot;) Then "Hendo" Sgt. from Morningside turned up (6ft6in 18+stone with size 13 BOOTS:eek: &%#**&# they hurt :Thump:

but I was a nice boy from Norman Park and didn't do anything wrong:angel:

Tahiti is now part of Colmslie recreation area. as both the Abbitoirs & Borthwicks as well as KR.Darling Downs even AJ Bush & Co, are long gone, remember KR's old KB international Hanger wagons in the Igloo on top of the hill on the oppisite side and not far from where Courier Mail is now.

cheers

[Tank]

I don't remember 1957 :D
but they're all sadly close to the mark.

The one that gets me is this outrageous ADD phenomenon. I don't buy into it. Of all my friends & colleagues kids I've met who were hyperactive, every single one of them was strung out on junk food/softdrink/cordial/lollies/etc. Not one of them ate decent food. Pumped full of uppers to 'cure' them but the 50/50 mix red cordial couldn't be the culprit!
When I was a kid it was pretty simple; sugary foods sent kids around the bend & when the crash came kids were 'difficult'.
Do people just not understand this now or don't they look at the side of the carton?

And no, for the record I don't have kids, but when I do they will be adorable little angels won't they?


:Rolling:
You really have no Idea of what you are talking about, do you?
Unless you have raised a kid with genuine ADHD you cant know the problems these kids have, I suppose you think Autism is Bull$h!t as well, get the facts before you start solving the problem of ADHD, Regards Frank.

[Bigbjorn]

G'day Brian Hjelm :)

The "Star" was at Wynnum:) a few of the boys and girls got thrown out and it burnt down Mysteriously :angel: then they would catch the train up to the Astra at M/side of the Flea Pit at Norman Park, lost a couple of front teeth there one Sat night:( my introduction to the NEW Family size Coke bottles (glass) but I heard his jaw crack when I hit him with the Tyre lever that was down in my boot;) Then "Hendo" Sgt. from Morningside turned up (6ft6in 18+stone with size 13 BOOTS:eek: &%#**&# they hurt :Thump:

but I was a nice boy from Norman Park and didn't do anything wrong:angel:
Tahiti is now part of Colmslie recreation area. as both the Abbitoirs & Borthwicks as well as KR.Darling Downs even AJ Bush & Co, are long gone, remember KR's old KB international Hanger wagons in the Igloo on top of the hill on the oppisite side and not far from where Courier Mail is now.

cheers

Ho, you did not fully answer the question.

[100I]

You really have no Idea of what you are talking about, do you?
Unless you have raised a kid with genuine ADHD you cant know the problems these kids have, I suppose you think Autism is Bull$h!t as well, get the facts before you start solving the problem of ADHD, Regards Frank.

I had to expect an opposing view, but I am not retracting mine.
I am saying I have not met one kid yet where it was a genuine where all the other obvious contributing factors had been removed. While there will be some genuine cases, the trend to label all troublesome kids has got completely out of hand.

On the flipside of that, I had a collegue about 12yrs ago who's 5yr old boy was severely autistic, I've seen how much heartache that can cause.
I also have good friends who's boy is over 2 years old and does not speak a word, he only squeals.
This can be an early sign of autism. I am really hoping for all their sakes he is a late bloomer.

[dirtdawg]

apparantly the can now test for autism at 6 months old, saw it on thenews last night

[stevo68]

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I don't remember 1957 :D
but they're all sadly close to the mark.

The one that gets me is this outrageous ADD phenomenon. I don't buy into it. Of all my friends & colleagues kids I've met who were hyperactive, every single one of them was strung out on junk food/softdrink/cordial/lollies/etc. Not one of them ate decent food. Pumped full of uppers to 'cure' them but the 50/50 mix red cordial couldn't be the culprit!
When I was a kid it was pretty simple; sugary foods sent kids around the bend & when the crash came kids were 'difficult'.
Do people just not understand this now or don't they look at the side of the carton?

And no, for the record I don't have kids, but when I do they will be adorable little angels won't they?


:Rolling:

You really have no Idea of what you are talking about, do you?
Unless you have raised a kid with genuine ADHD you cant know the problems these kids have, I suppose you think Autism is Bull$h!t as well, get the facts before you start solving the problem of ADHD, Regards Frank.
Now Im not going to claim to be an expert of any kind and sticking purely to this whole ADD/ ADHD issue, 9/10 times I would concur with 1001. I am a parent, I grew up as a child....obviously, and I have known many many adults. I have come across the ADD/ADHD, even having a doctor at one stage saying my daughter had it.

Now growing up, children back then who were painful brats with a lack of discipline would be called ADD today, but still nothing compared to what one see's today at times. My daughter didnt have ADD, I told the doctor he was a ****, it turned out she was advanced and was bored at "pre school", once they put her into a higher grade she was fine. She wasn't rude or disruptive, as she has always been a well mannered and I must admit disciplined child, she would just get bored easily.

Now no doubt that perhaps some of these kids do have a chemical imbalance, but not at the level some seem to think. I have seen some of these kids, the way their parents are and the cure from my day and with my children was a smack across the bum. So yes for sure there are genuine cases, but for many it is a quick lable in place of discipline and what sort of crap the child is eating,

Regards

Stevo

[Tank]

Bit harsh Frank.

I agree...ADD is overrated. Like many problems it is actually over-diagnosed so that schools get funding for having a percentage of "special" needs children. I believe, like 1001, that diet is a HUGE factor in children's behaviour. It's been proven. I sympathise with anyone rearing difficult children...I would hate to be in their shoes...HOWEVER...I still believe many are wrongly diagnosed and medicated. Just think, simple diet change could be all that is needed in some cases :(
NM, I don't think it is harsh, making wide sweeping statements and saying that most ADHD people are not ADHD is totally ignorant of the facts. I have lived with a child and now adult with ADHD and I have seen the difference, ADHD is not confined to children, it is carried on through to adult life as well, so it blows the naughty kid and red soft drink theory out of the water. How do you think an ADHD PERSON would feel reading these comments ridiculing them. All I ask is people think about who they might hurt when they make uninformed statements and label all with the one brush, I know there are Quack doctors and there are people who have been diagnosed incorrectly, but that's no excuse for Labelling all, Regards Frank.

[UncleHo]

G'day Brian Hjelm :)

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Bung -Tiddley

[87County]

good one stooge - its not too exaggerated

at Sydney Tech HIgh (2FLT ATC) we had a school armory which as well as rfiles & bayonets, included a Bren & Thompson.

how would that go down today??

[Cap]

I think the problem now days is that sometimes a balance hasnt been struck. When I was at school, I used to 'cop the strap' or '6 of the best' on the palms of our hands with a 1" by 10" rubber strap. The teachers would make you put your hand out, and would then strike your hands with this 6 times. I remember once that a student ended up with blistered and bleeding hands. Thankfully that doesnt occur anymore, but now I think students have too many rights and teachers not enough. I know teachers who get sworn at, chairs thrown at and threatened daily, yet they are powerless to do anything.

[Bigbjorn]

G'day Brian Hjelm :)

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Bung -Tiddley

Where at Wynnum was the Star? I remember a cinema on the Esplanade which I think was called the Imperial. Until I went to work down there, I think I had been to Wynnum only to play or watch Rugby League. We inner suburbs boys, from the Valley and New Farm regarded anywhere past a tram terminus as another country. Girls from the outer provinces were generally passed over unless they were particularly good sorts or known to be very friendly.

[barryj]

Where at Wynnum was the Star? I remember a cinema on the Esplanade which I think was called the Imperial. Until I went to work down there, I think I had been to Wynnum only to play or watch Rugby League. We inner suburbs boys, from the Valley and New Farm regarded anywhere past a tram terminus as another country. Girls from the outer provinces were generally passed over unless they were particularly good sorts or known to be very friendly.

Google found this,

http://www.gpa.uq.edu.au/courses/PLAN/2003/READING%20MATERIAL/Wynnum%20FINAL_PRINT_LR%20(3).pdf

From page 3 of the report;

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/11/395.jpg

Another site that mentions the Imperial Cinema;

http://www.wynnummanly.com.au/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=88

Imperial and Star Theatres

Although there are no longer movie theatres within the local area, the past demonstrates that during the early half of the nineteenth century they were a sought after form of entertainment. One of the most successful was the Star Theatre. Originally an open-air theatre built in 1915 the Star was later built in and went on to enjoy success during the heyday of cinema during the 30s. Tragically however, a fire that had originated in a neighbour's fish and chip shop spread to the Star Theatre, destroying the building. Even more devastating were the deaths of sub-station officer Herbert George Lees and station officer Sidney William Brown, firefighters killed when the theatre projection room collapsed and buried them under debris. The Imperial Theatre also saw success during the 1930s when it was customary for the theatre to accept 300 reservations a day. The Imperial did not suffer such a tragic fate as the Star but slowly lost business over time and eventually takings were too minimal to continue.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/11/396.jpg

[JohnE]

All very memoric ( is that a word) stuff, from the cadets at school, I was a CUO, did I ever tell anyone? after some of the afternoon parades, i used to take the keys to the armoury home with me, had them once for a week, the armoury was next to the canteen, away from all the buildings and one chubb lock on the door, had about 80 rifles and a dozen brens.
yep used to walk home with a 303 over my shoulder for the early start for the annual camp. Not bad for the eastern suburbs best surfing beach.
Even the teachers , all characters and story tellers, various ages, ww11 vets and one ex vietnam in high school. One even married an ex student and he was old( these days you'd get locked up for it)

There were the surfies, away from the beaches were the sharpies, and the leftovers the hippies, there were a few around the uni at kingsford, there were wine bars, comfortable places , you could sit on a lounge and chat to strangers. The best was the Decline at Kingsford.
a deal bag was the size of a loaf of bread and cost $20
litigation was unheard of, if someone didn;t like you , they would declare in front of all and sundry that they would have you 'on' after school. Had many a fight, and never lost one, and stayed mates after wards,
except the one where some teeth got knocked out, but I was over 18 at the time and was only trying to break one up.

There was a theatre at Maroubra junction and I vaguely remember the trams that used to go along anzac parade.
The high school classes were divided into the A's ( really smart) B's the average ones) the C's ( not that bright) and the odd D ( they usually left in third form, don't think they could spell very well.)

We all started going to the pub at 15-16 ( days of long hair and during the 70's everyone looked old enough.)
so I guess I can say I did all my growing up in the 70's, almost as good as the 60's, if you know what I mean,

its all been said before, things were simpler, not every house had a phone, if you wanted to have a long distance relationship you wrote letters in a neat hand.
the list goes on.

For some, getting older is the time to remember being younger.

thats enough waffle for now.


john

[JohnE]

Brings a smile to the face, remembering how things were!!!!!!!!!!



john

[HangOver]

dunno about 57' I went to school about 20 odd years ago and it was more like the 57' you suggest rather than the 2007,
it's gone a bit mental.......

ooops can I say that now?

[HangOver]

I know teachers who get sworn at, chairs thrown at and threatened daily, yet they are powerless to do anything.

wait till no one is around an give em' a slap ;)

:wasntme:

[FenianEel]

dunno about 57' I went to school about 20 odd years ago and it was more like the 57' you suggest rather than the 2007,
it's gone a bit mental.......

ooops can I say that now?

Actually, intellectually challenged or logically disadvantaged would be more appropriate and less discriminatory or offensive.

Thank you

PC Plod :p

[crash]

In the 80's and in Canada, me and a mate use to go hunting at lunch time. Most males had a rifle of some sort on a gun rack in their ute during hunting season, parked in the school yard.

[UncleHo]

G'day JohnE:)

You would remember that cute little blonde chick(16?) that had a couple of hit songs that came from Maroubra ;) and that wonderfull car factory at Pagewood that had the Paddy-Wagon parked outside every night when nightshift was running:D and the Cross when it was full of hippie chicks in see through kaftans:eek::D:banana:and those well spoken Bikies that used to gather up there every night:angel:

Any more than $10 for a matchbox-full and you were RIPPED OFFFFFF! :cool:

Aah! and the R & R Yanks $5000 to spend in 7 days:D:thumbsup: they were the days before HARD Drugs and Hand Guns:(

cheers

[Bigbjorn]

G'day Brian Hjelm :)

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Bung -Tiddley
do you mean you missed out?

[shorty943]

Sad state of affairs isn't it.

Of course I don't actually remember what school was like in 1957, I didn't start school until 1959.:D

I do remember not even being allowed to think, we could be allowed to get away with the defiance, and the rude challenges that kids issue today.