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DeeJay
31st October 2007, 12:28 PM
In todays paper for those who missed it.:(

Ford's big car sale: Jaguar, Land Rover buyers shortlisted


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Mark Milner, London
October 31, 2007


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FORD is expected to draw up a shortlist of preferred bidders for Jaguar and Land Rover next month with six companies still in the race to buy two of Britain's most prestigious car marques.
The car maker said it hoped to reach a conclusion by the end of the year or by early next year. But it is becoming clear that deciding the future of Jaguar and Land Rover has proved more complex than expected.
The two companies, which are being sold together, are attracting attention from trade and private equity buyers.
India's Tata group, which bought the steel maker Corus this year, is one of the frontrunners, alongside the private equity groups One Equity, whose interest is led by the former global chief executive of Ford and chief executive of Ford Australia, Jac Nasser; Ripplewood and TPG.
Terra Firma and Cerberus, which bought Chrysler this year, are seen as being in the running, though industry sources have questioned whether Cerberus would be willing to take on two big automotive acquisitions so close together.
The Indian car company Mahindra & Mahindra, thought earlier to have been among the contenders for Jaguar and Land Rover, is said to have pulled out.
Ford is unlikely to make a decision simply on price. It is determined to maintain contracts to supply engines to Jaguar and Land Rover after the sale and may retain a stake in the brands, similar to its 10 per cent holding in Aston Martin after its sale this year.
Issues such as pension funds and European Union plans to apply statutory limits on vehicle carbon dioxide emissions also have to be tackled.
Even valuing the two brands is becoming complex.
Analysts had estimated they would be worth between $US1.3 billion and $US1.5 billion ($A1.41 billion and $A1.62 billion).
The timing of the announcement has yet to be confirmed as the company enters crucial talks with the United Auto Workers union, where it will be seeking significant cuts in operating costs.
GUARDIAN

cjc_td5
31st October 2007, 12:47 PM
Bring it on I say!:angel:
Maybe a new owner could give LR some decent exposure in regional OZ so we don't have to travel to a capital city to get any warrant work done. My my view it was a stupid decision by LR to close so many regional dealerships a couple of years ago. :mad:

HangOver
31st October 2007, 02:37 PM
worth between $US1.3 billion and $US1.5 billion ($A1.41 billion and $A1.62 billion).

Is that all?
I'll take them both ! :D


I think it would be a shame to see them go to an Indian company. No disrespect to the inhabitants of that country but they seem to be very good, (like China) at cutting costs, (read corners).
I just hope who ever buys it doesn't cut things back too much and start selling poorly made vehicles.

It would be sad to see two historical companies such and Jag and Land Rover to go to the dogs.

FenianEel
31st October 2007, 03:53 PM
I just hope who ever buys it doesn't cut things back too much and start selling poorly made vehicles.

What, like the previous owners? :wasntme::D

JDNSW
31st October 2007, 03:55 PM
It would be difficult for them to make a bigger mess of them than did Leyland, and that was without any foreign help at all!

John

mittadisco
31st October 2007, 04:29 PM
So what will happen - all LR beome Tatas - ie built on Tata design - heaven help us! or will all Tatas become LR, and all be built in India? Again - heaven help us..... I can see little good coming from a Tata ownership.

HangOver
31st October 2007, 05:10 PM
I just hope they say Ta-Ta to Tata :D:D:D:D

460cixy
31st October 2007, 05:36 PM
i say in less than 5 years there will be no more land rover

mcrover
31st October 2007, 05:42 PM
Ive never known anyone that has owned a Tata to not like it and think it was well made......:D








































































Ive only known 1 person who was stupid enough to buy one and he was an idiot before hand :wasntme:

Zute
31st October 2007, 05:42 PM
If Tata buys LR, does that mean I can fit Land Rover badges to my Maruti ?

mcrover
31st October 2007, 05:46 PM
The timing of the announcement has yet to be confirmed as the company enters crucial talks with the United Auto Workers union, where it will be seeking significant cuts in operating costs.

Thats the part that bothers me.....

How could they take anything out of a Defender to cut costs, maybe it wont come with a radio anymore, sliding door glass again, no power steer etc etc.


I cant see Tata making a good D3, Rangie Sport or Jaguar but I think the Defender they could handle but it will be made of 1/4 steel plate panels like their utes they make.

mcrover
31st October 2007, 05:48 PM
If Tata buys LR, does that mean I can fit Land Rover badges to my Maruti ?

Whats a Maruti?

And No......

FenianEel
31st October 2007, 05:54 PM
The timing of the announcement has yet to be confirmed as the company enters crucial talks with the United Auto Workers union, where it will be seeking significant cuts in operating costs.

Thats the part that bothers me.....

How could they take anything out of a Defender to cut costs, maybe it wont come with a radio anymore, sliding door glass again, no power steer etc etc.


I cant see Tata making a good D3, Rangie Sport or Jaguar but I think the Defender they could handle but it will be made of 1/4 steel plate panels like their utes they make.

Cost cutting hey?
Well, they may go back in time.....
Optional extras are things like roofs, doors etc

mittadisco
31st October 2007, 05:54 PM
Whats a Maruti?

And No......

A suzuki swift or thereabouts. You normally can fit a family of 6 Indians in them.

Frenchie
31st October 2007, 06:07 PM
I would imagine that cost cutting would mean moving production to India and closing Solihull, putting lots of Poms out of work.

Dunnie
31st October 2007, 07:01 PM
Rhino may offer a howdah for the roof bars. TATA for now.......

shorty943
31st October 2007, 10:02 PM
The timing of the announcement has yet to be confirmed as the company enters crucial talks with the United Auto Workers union, where it will be seeking significant cuts in operating costs.

Thats the part that bothers me.....

How could they take anything out of a Defender to cut costs, maybe it wont come with a radio anymore, sliding door glass again, no power steer etc etc.


I cant see Tata making a good D3, Rangie Sport or Jaguar but I think the Defender they could handle but it will be made of 1/4 steel plate panels like their utes they make.



Let's see now, the only kind of power steering the old S3 has is "Armstrong type", the wireless gave up years ago, what's wrong with sliding door glass?
And what was the last thing?
Oh yes, good sturdy construction, 1\4 steel plate?
Noice one, mate. Checker plated all over, mate.
:D:p:angel:


Edit.

That gives me an idea. I heard about some 1 mm Alloy checker plate, wanting a new home, the other day.
Nice shiny new all checker plate front guards, Hmmm. Checker plate, hmmm.
And door shells, and side panels, and bonnet, and,,,

HAK
1st November 2007, 10:16 AM
oh no noowned by LR will loose it status being owned by TATA I can imagine now come see the new RR sports at your nearest tata dealer :mad:

VladTepes
1st November 2007, 11:21 AM
Yeah I can;t see hoe the LR depreciatio issue is going to be helped by Tata !!! LOL.

And the maths - Tata has purchased a large STEEL company and now want to own LR. Kiss goodye to aluminium body panels. That'd make the Defender a touch heavier !!!

Lotz-A-Landies
1st November 2007, 12:08 PM
My my view it was a stupid decision by LR to close so many regional dealerships a couple of years ago. :mad:
It was an insulting decision - take Modern Motors in Dungog (Rundles Garage) they were one of the first Land Rover Dealers back in 1949 and maintained the faith until sacked.

How can they expect brand loyalty from customers when they don't respect loyalty from their dealers?

Take Trivett's Aston Martin
Bentley
BMW
Harley-Davidson
Honda
Jaguar
Land-Rover
Mini
Peugeot
Porsche
Rolls-Royce
Volvo
The same salesman can show you the BMW soft-roader, Volvo soft-roader, Honda soft-roader, Range-Rover, Discovery and Defender.

How can he be objective?

Diana

VladTepes
1st November 2007, 01:40 PM
It was an insulting decision - take Modern Motors in Dungog (Rundles Garage) they were one of the first Land Rover Dealers back in 1949 and maintained the faith until sacked.

How can they expect brand loyalty from customers when they don't respect loyalty from their dealers?

Take Trivett's

Aston Martin
Bentley
BMW
Harley-Davidson
Honda
Jaguar
Land-Rover
Mini
Peugeot
Porsche
Rolls-Royce
VolvoThe same salesman can show you the BMW soft-roader, Volvo soft-roader, Honda soft-roader, Range-Rover, Discovery and Defender.

How can he be objective?

Diana

Well said ! Yeah there are a lot of Landies around Dungog and most of them probably came new from Rundles,

Oh and the salesman probably tries to sell the one he gets the best cut on !

PAT303
1st November 2007, 08:01 PM
It's Rumble Land Rover not rundles.Last time I was there(timing belt)I ask Owen Rumble who was the first and he said Arthur Garthon beat him by a few months.That was in 50'-51'.Land Rover do not deserve our loyalty or the people that support them.Those guy's and many others kept them on the road long before the 'new managment' lot were born!!. Pat