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pawl
4th November 2007, 03:40 PM
After reading Rosco's thread about his sick batteries it led me to the question of, will the pulse devices like Megapulse, etc. bring back or extend the life of his batteries from sulphation? Do they work? Anyone have any knowledge or experience with these?

RonMcGr
4th November 2007, 05:02 PM
After reading Rosco's thread about his sick batteries it led me to the question of, will the pulse devices like Megapulse, etc. bring back or extend the life of his batteries from sulphation? Do they work? Anyone have any knowledge or experience with these?

Apparently they do.
I was going to get a portable 12 volt one, but fell over the $120.00 purchase price :eek:

Blknight.aus
4th November 2007, 05:46 PM
Ive got one thats a Jaycar kit model modded slightly so that it can also hang off of a 500ma charger to keep the battery topped up if needed during the zapping process...

so far its 3 for 5 at ressurecting batteries the other 2 batteries It might have been able to save given enough time and effort but IMHO if your not getting a reasonable improvement in a fortnight turf the battery.


IME if the battery isnt tooo stuffed they work The main battery in big red was a 600CCa unit that was testing at 300 odd CCA before dropping below the acceptable voltage. But it was still starting big red OK. 3 days (8 hrs per day) on the zapper got it up to 500 and 3 more days got it to 550+ admitedly each day after 8 hours on the zapper I hit it with the 20a charger to top it back up But in my book thats a win.

abaddonxi
5th November 2007, 09:07 AM
Dan reckons they're alright.
http://www.google.com/custom?q=desulfator&sa=search+dan%27s+data&sitesearch=dansdata.com&client=pub-2970415349381864&forid=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&cof=GALT%3A%23008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3B VLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3 A336699%3BALC%3A0000FF%3BLC%3A0000FF%3BT%3A000000% 3BGFNT%3A0000FF%3BGIMP%3A0000FF%3BFORID%3A1&hl=en

and a couple of links:
http://www.theworkshop.ca/energy/desulf/desulf.htm
http://home.comcast.net/~ddenhardt201263/desulfator/desulf.htm

Cheers
Simon

HangOver
5th November 2007, 06:00 PM
I dont think this is a hijack given the thread title?
I have a good size spare battery of unknown age i keep it charged but wondered about that battery reconditioner stuff from supercheap, worth it?

or maybe try to get the acid refilled?

Tank
5th November 2007, 07:20 PM
I dont think this is a hijack given the thread title?
I have a good size spare battery of unknown age i keep it charged but wondered about that battery reconditioner stuff from supercheap, worth it?

or maybe try to get the acid refilled?
Inox has a battery conditioner (desulphates lead plates in battery), I used it on a battery that I replaced a few years ago because it wouldn't hold a charge, it sat around for a year and was only reading around 6 volts. I used a small bottle of Inox battery conditioner, put it on charge and it is still working now, no problems, I have used it on other batteries as well, it prolongs standard battery life, Regards Frank.

HangOver
5th November 2007, 08:46 PM
hmmm ta I might get some and chuck it in as long as it wont do any harm.
Just thinking where does the sulphate go? does it just disolve?


What do you think about replacing the acid?
I have about 20L of sulfuric out back.

cookiesa
5th November 2007, 09:06 PM
I used the inox about two weeks ago... battery now wont hold a charge, it is nearly three years old so not bad anyway. They do warn it may kill the battery on the box

Blknight.aus
5th November 2007, 09:08 PM
the sulphate comes off of the plates and sinks to the bottom of the battery....

some of it is resorbed and redeposited and the rest just sits there

HangOver
5th November 2007, 11:33 PM
not a good idea then unless the battery is on it's way out.... kill or cure?

Just thinking out loud but what if inox was used then the battery flushed and new acid added?
It's theoretical anyhow as my batteries are OK, (for now) I was just thinking about the future.

When I kill a battery I'll try it and let you know.

Blknight.aus
6th November 2007, 12:17 AM
well the battery that Ive zapped back to life (well almost its now doing 550CCa out of 600) while it still makes good cranking its RC is down some 15% and I dont think its going to get that back.

Its not a kill and its not a cure... ummm how about its a treatment that lets it live a little longer.

More regular "zapping" or treating with the sulphate breakers like the inox product mentioned might have a more lasting effect. but thats a WAG.

Tank
6th November 2007, 01:30 AM
not a good idea then unless the battery is on it's way out.... kill or cure?

Just thinking out loud but what if inox was used then the battery flushed and new acid added?
It's theoretical anyhow as my batteries are OK, (for now) I was just thinking about the future.

When I kill a battery I'll try it and let you know.
Batteries "sulphate" up over time and it can cause premature death of your battery, the Inox is designed to desulphate the plates so as they can absorb a full charge. If a battery is dead or dying and desulphating won't revive it then Inox will not help, nothing will, Inox will revive a sulphated battery, I use it regularly as part of battery maintenance. I dont know what replacing battery acid will do, but I beleive a battery with damaged or collapsing lead plates is not going to be saved by new acid, but it may help a salvagable battery, it would pay to check first with a battery expert or manufacturer, Regards Frank.

QSDT
6th November 2007, 03:35 PM
I've got 4 of the old series 1 mega-pulses and have fixed many batteries with them use them all joined together so that it works faster. Also have used the inox but of cause it can't be used on the new sealed type batteries. They do work.

HangOver
6th November 2007, 05:56 PM
I use it regularly as part of battery maintenance.


So it hasn't killed any of your batteries
Would you tell me

How often do you use it?
How long have you used it?

Thanks

Tank
7th November 2007, 01:58 AM
So it hasn't killed any of your batteries
Would you tell me

How often do you use it?
How long have you used it?

Thanks
I have used Inox for several years now and I give all my batteries a dose every 12 months, looks like I'll be getting 4 or more years out of a standard battery which is about twice the life I used to get before using Inox. I have a battery still in service that I took out of my Disco 2 years ago because it wasn't holding a charge and eventually wouldn't take a charge. After sitting for a couple of months in the shed (not on concrete floor) I dosed it with Inox, put it on charge for a couple of days and it has been working well ever since, Regards Frank.Regards Frank.