4.11s

[discopete]

Thought it might be a good idea to change the diff ratios when I put the locker in. Just wondering where to buy them from and if reverse cut gears are a good or bad thing. Are some 4.11 sets better than others and what should I expect to pay, I notice LRA are $660 per end. And, is it worth pegging the diffs to run 33s. Any feedback appreciated.

Cheers,
Pete

[walker]

I got mine direct from Ashcroft in the UK, you can buy them online. I think this is the cheapest way. I paid $850 for the pair landed.

Reverse cut are good, it means they will run quieter and from memory they are stronger. Ashcroft dont use reverse cut but they seem fine.

Just be aware of the difference between 4.1 and 4.11. Most of the gears from the US are 4.1 and are much weaker and easier to break.


I would not think you would need to worry about pegging if running 33's. I have not done it to run 35's.

[rovercare]

The reverse cut gears are ONLY for the front;)

I've had my KAM gears in for 4 years, unpegged, with 35 simex, It hasn't done many kays:eek: But they've been fair ****in abused:angel:...2 county CV's worth:D without issue

[cal415]

The reverse cut gears are ONLY for the front;)

I've had my KAM gears in for 4 years, unpegged, with 35 simex, It hasn't done many kays:eek: But they've been fair ****in abused:angel:...2 county CV's worth:D without issue
I am looking at doing the same thing, what are the KAM 4.11s worth, do they ahve a reverse cut for the fronts as well and does anyone know how they compare to the ashcroft ones?

[discopete]

I got mine direct from Ashcroft in the UK, you can buy them online. I think this is the cheapest way. I paid $850 for the pair landed.

Reverse cut are good, it means they will run quieter and from memory they are stronger. Ashcroft dont use reverse cut but they seem fine.

Just be aware of the difference between 4.1 and 4.11. Most of the gears from the US are 4.1 and are much weaker and easier to break.


I would not think you would need to worry about pegging if running 33's. I have not done it to run 35's.

Adam,
when did you buy yours, the site lists then at 195 pounds per set which is about $890 without freight, and did that include anything else like setup shims and seals? I got a price from Great Basin Rovers including reverse cut fronts for a bit over a $1000 landed. They also have a heavy duty set about $1200 landed. Either set 4.11s not 4.1s.

Cheers,
Pete

[rovercare]

I am looking at doing the same thing, what are the KAM 4.11s worth, do they ahve a reverse cut for the fronts as well and does anyone know how they compare to the ashcroft ones?

Yea, reverse cut front, I paid about 600 for the front new, as I had a 9" rear at the time, then got a second hande rear at a later date:eek:

[walker]

I bought mine about 2 years ago.
But thinking about it now, I organised a group buy and we bought 5 sets which is why we got such a good price

The expensive part is getting them installed.

If you can get them from US then it will be cheaper because of the exchange rate. Just make sure they are 4.11's. When I enquired 2 years ago GBR could only supply 4.1's.

[discowhite]

The expensive part is getting them installed.

$80 to set up a diff propper aint the expensive;)

cheers phil

[rovercare]

$80 to set up a diff propper aint the expensive;)

cheers phil

2hrs labour, but include 250 for bearings and oil seal aswell;)

Setting up pinions is not as simple as setting up crown wheels, its something you need to get right, you also need the gear......Jig and known measured spacers and feeler gauges......and shims

[dungarover]

I bought mine from the states although I did pay more for mine since they're a hardened set (about $1080 landed). I havet yet to fit them as I am at a crossroads weather to keep pouring money into a Rangie that is slowly starting to fall apart or move on and spend it on something decent :(

Got 'em anyway so fitting them will be in due course.

Trav

[rovercare]

I bought mine from the states although I did pay more for mine since they're a hardened set (about $1080 landed). I havet yet to fit them as I am at a crossroads weather to keep pouring money into a Rangie that is slowly starting to fall apart or move on and spend it on something decent :(

Got 'em anyway so fitting them will be in due course.

Trav

Something decent:eek:

[dungarover]

Something decent:eek:

Still a Land Rover (couldn't buy anything but) and I will be taking all my maxi's with me as well as the tyres, etc... if I decide to move on.


Like I mentioned, I have til late Jan to make my decision (rego is due then).

Trav

[discowhite]

2hrs labour, but include 250 for bearings and oil seal aswell;)

Setting up pinions is not as simple as setting up crown wheels, its something you need to get right, you also need the gear......Jig and known measured spacers and feeler gauges......and shims

$80 was to replace all bearings re fit new ones do preload bla bla bla, the whole lot. (not oil) i give my diff bloke my diff and bearings/gears and seal and $80. he gives me a finished center to install.
timkin bearing set for rover center cost me $80...

cheers phil;)

[walker]

Hmmmm.

I'm not saying what I paid!

[rovercare]

$80 was to replace all bearings re fit new ones do preload bla bla bla, the whole lot. (not oil) i give my diff bloke my diff and bearings/gears and seal and $80. he gives me a finished center to install.
timkin bearing set for rover center cost me $80...

cheers phil;)

Replacing bearings and setting up a NEW pinion in a different housing is alot more time consuming;)

Replacing the pinion bearings is pizz easy, as you dont (shouldn't) affect pinion height due to bearing manufacturing tolerances being such a high standard, but when you actually have to alter the height, its assemble, fit jig, check, disassemble knock out bearing cup, change shim, assemble, fit jig............etc till its dot on

Edit: $80 for all 4 bearings and cups?? where and what, 'cause that's cheap and would be handy to know

[rovercare]

Hmmmm.

I'm not saying what I paid!

:angel::angel::angel:

Sorry Walker:eek:

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php't=80892&start=0

[Bush65]

I just looked up my account transactions.

I bought a pair of 1:4.11 r&p from Ashcrofts in Sept 2006. Cost including shipping to my door, was 510 UK pounds and with exchange rate at the time, came out to A$1295.

Remember prices on their web site include VAT which does not apply to us.

[discopete]

I bought mine from the states although I did pay more for mine since they're a hardened set (about $1080 landed). I havet yet to fit them as I am at a crossroads weather to keep pouring money into a Rangie that is slowly starting to fall apart or move on and spend it on something decent :(

Got 'em anyway so fitting them will be in due course.

Trav

Trav,
did you buy from GBRs?

Pete

[discopete]

I just looked up my account transactions.

I bought a pair of 1:4.11 r&p from Ashcrofts in Sept 2006. Cost including shipping to my door, was 510 UK pounds and with exchange rate at the time, came out to A$1295.

Remember prices on their web site include VAT which does not apply to us.

Thanks John,
forgot about VAT.

Pete

[DeeJay]

So Jack McNamara does'nt have them ??
He was still into Landies last I saw of him - about a year ago.

[discowhite]

Edit: $80 for all 4 bearings and cups?? where and what, 'cause that's cheap and would be handy to know

CBC here in revesby.
though i use IBS a block away now due to the fact their rep comes to see me. (scratch my back and all that:cool:)

cheers phil

[dungarover]

Trav,
did you buy from GBRs?

Pete

Yep, I bought mine along with stikman on the forum and we were able to get a discount, but even without the price was okay :).

But I never like paying full price, I have to haggle :twisted::twisted:

Trav