My wheels won't come off

[Rayngie]

I've bought a spare set of road wheels and tyres for my D2, went to take the muddies off and swap them over, rear's came off fine, new wheels went on fine, old front wheels would'nt budge, all wheel nuts off etc, stayed there like it was welded.
Any idea's?, don't want to run around with two different size tyres front and back, traction control is confused!
How do i get the damn things off?

[CapeLandy]

If alloys be carefull not to use too much force. I would try spraying some Wirth Release Spray behind the rims and wait 30 minutes to do it's majic and try again. If steel rim you could use a 4lb hammer gently to help persuade them off.
Good luck.

[lewy]

my disco had the same thing with the rears. they were just stuck.had to squirt lots of panther p.... around then get under and tap the rim outwards whilst slowly turning the rim the wheel will need to come off square or it will stick. if they are alloys be very carefull how hard you hit the rim.use a rubber mallet if possible.dont rely on the jack to hold the vehicle up use chocks

[loanrangie]

Refit the nuts loosely and drive forward slowly.

[Quiggers]

Rayngie, do not run different size rubber, the centre diff will go bang. Happened to a bloke I know, was running a Volvo XC 90, very expensive.



Cheers, GQ

[spudboy]

Yeah - I was going to say similar to LoanRangie: have the nuts on loosely and use the power steering to go left and right on the spot. The twisting action should break the seal.
David

[Rayngie]

i tried the loose nut, turn wheel, drive backwards, forwards slowly thing, no difference.
Will try putting a spray of some kind under it,

cheers,

[stevo]

also before putting the wheels back on clean up the center on the hub with a bit of sand paper and I use a little bit of anti seize aswell,I have had that problem in the past

[Rayngie]

Would love to be in a position to be able to put the wheels back on!!!

[4bee]

I read here sometime ago that someone had slackened the nuts & gone for a short drive. Seemed to work for him.

[cal415]

Hi Ray,
It must be a sign! Leave the muddies on! :)

It has done that to me in the past, a bit of WD40 and a rubber mallet always did the trick, just tap it around the inside of the wheel in different spots it will come loose.

[Rayngie]

It's all about preserving the muddies for when they are actually in mud, not much of that between Manly and Camperdown!, they have to come off!

[davros]

with about 5mm play in all the nuts. I had to be a bit violent with twisting the whee. It'll definitely get em off eventually!

Dave

[Rayngie]

Right, am off to try it, will report back, that's if i don't kill the car on the way home!

[Quiggers]

I read here sometime ago that someone had slackened the nuts & gone for a short drive. Seemed to work for him.

That might have been me, as we had this prob with the Futura...the (front) alloy wheels wouldn't budge...

...loosened the nuts a turn and drove it (slowly) for a few minutes... then 'CRACK!'

problem solved.

GQ

[Utemad]

Our F250 used to do this. I put the bottle jack between the inner wheel arch (on the tray) and the tyre (with a block of wood) and started jacking.

[DEFENDERZOOK]

at work......this was a common occurance with alloys on the steel hubs......a tiny bit of surface rust and they are seized on......

we used to just hit the back of the tyre outwards with a lump hammer......this used to work almost everytime.....
with the really severe cases......we would have to actually hit the rim......CAREFULLY.......



driving on loose wheels is not recommended......it can damage the rim or even snap off the studs......if the wheel doesnt fall off first......

[crump]

so your intention was to get the wheels off until the wheels fell off that plan??:D;)

[lokka]

Best o luck ray them buggeres would bestuck on with medowie mud and that stuff sets like concreat :D:D:D:D


Tho id go the loose nut theroy but at low speeds as like tony said studs can snap i have broken plenty in the past no big rover ones tho ;););)

[Blknight.aus]

just jack it up and belt the bottom of the sidewall as hard as you can with the biggest knockometer that youve got while someone slowly spins the wheel it'll come off.

[Quiggers]

Tho id go the loose nut theroy but at low speeds as like tony said studs can snap i have broken plenty in the past no big rover ones tho ;););)

I've done this procedure without any probs.

No studs were killed during the course of this movement.

Slow is the keyword here.

The car in question was weaved like one would do a warm up lap for a F1/V8S type race.

problem solved...

GQ

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Did we get a result??:o

[rovercare]

just jack it up and belt the bottom of the sidewall as hard as you can with the biggest knockometer that youve got while someone slowly spins the wheel it'll come off.

^^^^^my chosen method;)

[waynep]

When you do get them off, try and change your rims over every couple of months or so, even if you don't need to. It will avoid this problem happening again, also gives you a chance to give everything behind there a proper clean.

hmm having said that i haven't had my muddies on steels on for about 4 months .....must be turning into a townie :( :D

[tombraider]

Refit the nuts loosely and drive forward slowly.

So simple isnt it... Everyone looks for the hard way for some reason! :cool:

[DEFENDERZOOK]

^^^^^my chosen method;)




i wouldnt do that........


i would remove the wheel nuts before hitting it with a hammer......
it greatly improves your success rate......







trust me.......

[rovercare]

i wouldnt do that........


i would remove the wheel nuts before hitting it with a hammer......
it greatly improves your success rate......







trust me.......

I wondered why it took so much bashing:confused:

[Blknight.aus]

i wouldnt do that........


i would remove the wheel nuts before hitting it with a hammer......
it greatly improves your success rate......







trust me.......

picky bugger aintcha.

[Slunnie]

When you do get them off, try and change your rims over every couple of months or so, even if you don't need to. It will avoid this problem happening again, also gives you a chance to give everything behind there a proper clean.

hmm having said that i haven't had my muddies on steels on for about 4 months .....must be turning into a townie :( :D
Yeah, I think it has a lot to do with mud and grit getting into the spiggot area on the hub causing the wheel to lock on. Mine have always jiggled off though. It's probably good practice to clean the spiggot with a brush and particularly at the very bottom where it meets the wheel mating surface.

[DEFENDERZOOK]

how long you gonna be in sydney for.....?

[rovercare]

Yeah, I think it has a lot to do with mud and grit getting into the spiggot area on the hub causing the wheel to lock on. Mine have always jiggled off though. It's probably good practice to clean the spiggot with a brush and particularly at the very bottom where it meets the wheel mating surface.

Oxidisation having the alloy and steel hubs together;)

[Rayngie]

Allright, i know you all had sleepless nights in wonderment, loose nuts, small drive, got them off..only thing killed was 1 x lock nut & 1 x socket used to get said lock nut off when it stripped the little stupid round locking pin thingo's, then needed said socket bashed onto stuffed lock nut to get that off.

Why could'nt land rover design a lock nut key and lock nut with square pins so they don't round off?

thanks for the tips, all sorted now!

Ray

[waynep]

loose nuts, small drive,


yeah ...can be a problem ...

[Redback]

It's all about preserving the muddies for when they are actually in mud, not much of that between Manly and Camperdown!, they have to come off!

I dunno about that, you can have it sprayed on in Mosman:p:p

Oh BTW toss those bloody lock nuts too buggery, bloody mongrels of things they are:twisted:

Baz.

[Rayngie]

I dunno about that, you can have it sprayed on in Mosman:p:p


I always thought it was a 'crystal car wash' place, now that i think of it, i have seen cars go in clean and come out dirty.....

[Slunnie]

Oxidisation having the alloy and steel hubs together;)
Perhaps and that also. ;)

[Bigbjorn]

Clean the mating surfaces, studs, and nuts and apply a good coating of Loctite anti-seize to them all before reinstalling. Don't use copper base anti-seize on aluminium, use silver or nickel base.

[stevo]

I ditched the lock nuts after getting a flat in the bush and trying to get the lock nut off it rounded off,not a very good design lucky I had a pair of vice grips to get it off

[gorby]

I dunno about that, you can have it sprayed on in Mosman:p:p

Baz.
Hey!!!!!!:censored::banban:

Well you're probably right. I think I have the only proper muddy 4x4 in Mosman. Well I assume that's what the funny looks are for.:(

[Quiggers]

Hey!!!!!!:censored::banban:

Well you're probably right. I think I have the only proper muddy 4x4 in Mosman. Well I assume that's what the funny looks are for.:(


Ah, Mosman, my former home.

Very few real 4wds there, can't see 'em for all the X5s, Touraegs, Cayennes, Benzes and Audis:D:D:D

Military Road is pretty nuts these days, gorby...

GQ

[Rayngie]

I drive Military Rd each way everyday, during the week it's fine, it's the damn weekend where is goes belly up, i swear it's worse at midday on a saturday than an point during the week.

[953]

When you do get them off, try and change your rims over every couple of months or so, even if you don't need to. It will avoid this problem happening again, also gives you a chance to give everything behind there a proper clean.

hmm having said that i haven't had my muddies on steels on for about 4 months .....must be turning into a townie :( :D

If u dont at least do this , sell the muddies, u dont need them:wasntme:.
Cheers Dean.

[DEFENDERZOOK]

thats because everyone is going to see all the animals......

[Redback]

Hey!!!!!!:censored::banban:

Well you're probably right. I think I have the only proper muddy 4x4 in Mosman. Well I assume that's what the funny looks are for.:(

Done my fair share of drivin Military Rd as a bus driver out of Nth Sydney depot at Neutral Bay for 15yrs:twisted:

[JohnE]

biggest 'knockometer' that .

every post is a learning experience, and we get to find out new words for things.
this one is gooood.



john

[DEFENDERZOOK]

if you want to know the torque specs for your head bolts.......
you tighten it till it snaps......then back it off half a turn......

[rovercare]

every post is a learning experience, and we get to find out new words for things.
this one is gooood.



john

You never heard Knockometer/tapometer before:eek:

Where you been living:angel::D

[Blknight.aus]

Its also known as

purcusive adjusting tool
acoustical force applicator
persuader
Point loading device
Technical adjusting device.

[Bigbjorn]

Its also known as

purcusive adjusting tool
acoustical force applicator
persuader
Point loading device
Technical adjusting device.

Or in less politically correct times as an Irish (Maori, Kaffir, Italian, Polish, etc.) screwdriver.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

if you want to know the torque specs for your head bolts.......
you tighten it till it snaps......then back it off half a turn......


now thats just cruel---
:lol2: