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460cixy
7th November 2007, 12:15 AM
wireless stoped working today thought i would rip it out and have a look see and found this. pulled the tape off and the wires are just twitched up https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/11/269.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/11/270.jpg
stevo68
7th November 2007, 06:57 AM
wireless stoped working today Umm do you mean "radio"?? :eek:
Regards
Stevo
JDNSW
7th November 2007, 07:29 AM
Umm do you mean "radio"?? :eek:
Regards
Stevo
I assume he does - the words have had the same meaning for at least ninety years as abbreviations for Wireless Telegraphy (1904) and Radio-telegraphy (1915 US) (or telephony since the early 1920s).
The words were used interchangeably throughout the English speaking world at first, but radio became the dominant word in the US quite early, probably because the word was chosen as part of the name of one of the most successful US companies in the new technology (RCA), but wireless was used more commonly throughout the rest of the English speaking world until radio began to overtake it in the 1950s as a result of the spreading of US culture, largely with films and TV programmes. However, most people outside the US who learned to speak English before the end of the 20th century would be familiar with both words.
John
Quiggers
7th November 2007, 08:13 AM
Doesn't look to 'wireless' to me:D:D:D
GQ
29dinosaur
7th November 2007, 08:20 AM
Twitched up? Wots rong wth that? Was tht wch cawsed the wirelss to stp wrking?
jimbo110
7th November 2007, 08:43 AM
I assume he does - the words have had the same meaning for at least ninety years as abbreviations for Wireless Telegraphy (1904) and Radio-telegraphy (1915 US) (or telephony since the early 1920s).
The words were used interchangeably throughout the English speaking world at first, but radio became the dominant word in the US quite early, probably because the word was chosen as part of the name of one of the most successful US companies in the new technology (RCA), but wireless was used more commonly throughout the rest of the English speaking world until radio began to overtake it in the 1950s as a result of the spreading of US culture, largely with films and TV programmes. However, most people outside the US who learned to speak English before the end of the 20th century would be familiar with both words.
John
However, those of us that live in the 21st century would think of an internet/computer application of the phrase rather than a radio application :p
RonMcGr
7th November 2007, 08:49 AM
I assume he does - the words have had the same meaning for at least ninety years as abbreviations for Wireless Telegraphy (1904) and Radio-telegraphy (1915 US) (or telephony since the early 1920s).
The words were used interchangeably throughout the English speaking world at first, but radio became the dominant word in the US quite early, probably because the word was chosen as part of the name of one of the most successful US companies in the new technology (RCA), but wireless was used more commonly throughout the rest of the English speaking world until radio began to overtake it in the 1950s as a result of the spreading of US culture, largely with films and TV programmes. However, most people outside the US who learned to speak English before the end of the 20th century would be familiar with both words.
John
Reminds me, bit off topic. In the 70's when I was in Army Movements, we used to ring the Railway Stations to book space for passengers, and or, cargo. The old codgers on the other end often said, "No worries mate, just send me a wire".
What he meant was "Telex" used back in those days, however I could just imagine him tapping on the old Railway morse code line :D
JDNSW
7th November 2007, 11:07 AM
However, those of us that live in the 21st century would think of an internet/computer application of the phrase rather than a radio application :p
No, not quite - only those who are from the relatively small proportion of the population who are knowledgeable about up to date computer technology, but ignorant of recent history. (mind you, the largest proportion of the population is ignorant of both, even if they do live in the 21st century!)
John
stevo68
7th November 2007, 11:10 AM
However, those of us that live in the 21st century would think of an internet/computer application of the phrase rather than a radio application :p Im with you Jimbo, I was thinking "wireless connection". Im pretty sure I have heard the term "wireless" in one of those old black and white movies, pretty sure the movies came on some big reel thingamajig :D
Regards
Stevo
BigJon
7th November 2007, 11:18 AM
I am only 33 and I am quite happy understanding and using the term wireless to mean radio.
Lotz-A-Landies
7th November 2007, 11:41 AM
However, those of us that live in the 21st century would think of an internet/computer application of the phrase rather than a radio application :p
In the 21st century you can have a radio frequency network device to connect multiple computers together. They call it WiFi. Because instead of using network cables (or wires) they use radio frequency transmitters and receivers, but doesn't it upset the cordless telephone (or wireless telephone which uses radio frequency transceivers) or the wireless Audio Visual distribution box you have connected to the TV (which use radio frequency transceivers.)
The interesting thing is that while they call it wireless technology, there are still wires going from the Wireless access point to the network hub.
Dont get carried away on this new millennium 21st century deal. It is all 20th century technology.
I am happy to accept either radio or wireless as a valid term.
The problem is that the RF spectrum is getting soooooo cluttered with fad technology.
What is worse, I was checking my WiFi router configuration recently and found someone was hyjacking my cable internet connection. (My flat mate turned off the Mac address filtering to connect another fad device.)
Diana
graceysdad
7th November 2007, 12:26 PM
Such excellent wiring technique, must have been a pro!
GrahamH
7th November 2007, 01:52 PM
The word "Wireless" does invoke a certain sense of nostalgia which WiFi lacks completely.
The photo below comes from a series of shots encapsulated in a PowerPoint slide show titled "Telecommunications Cable Practices in Beirut". I use it in my training sessions for Broadcast Techs to relieve the tedium. Clearly this is the antithesis of "Wireless".
(The whole presentation is 220KB so if you wish I could , perhaps, send it to Inc to make available on the "Files Link". The whole thing is very funny but how could anyone work like this?)
barryj
7th November 2007, 03:05 PM
I think it is wireless, especially when no current passes through the wires due to dodgy brothers installation :angel:.
rovercare
7th November 2007, 03:12 PM
I am only 33 and I am quite happy understanding and using the term wireless to mean radio.
I've just turned 24 and knew what he was on about:eek:
Good ol' twitch n tape:D
stevo68
7th November 2007, 03:29 PM
Just for the record I did know that wireless in this instance was referring to a radio, just moreso it has been a long time since I have heard that term in respect to a radio,
Regards
Stevo
jik22
7th November 2007, 04:17 PM
Haven't heard the term "wireless" to mean radio for years...these days, I'd think 802.11 or WiMAX automatically! :)
BigJon
7th November 2007, 04:58 PM
Haven't heard the term "wireless" to mean radio for years...these days, I'd think 802.11 or WiMAX automatically! :)
I used wireless referring to the radio today. I was on it :cool:, not talking Land Rovers though :mad:.
RonMcGr
7th November 2007, 05:22 PM
Oh boy!
I must be really old.
The term "Wireless" brings to mind an old wooden box with a valve radio in it.
Turn it on, wait for the valves to heat up and sound. No sound, check valves and see which one is dead :D
Modern radio is "Tansistor" :lol2::lol2:
cookiesa
7th November 2007, 06:06 PM
Oh boy!
I must be really old.
The term "Wireless" brings to mind an old wooden box with a valve radio in it.
Turn it on, wait for the valves to heat up and sound. No sound, check valves and see which one is dead :D
Modern radio is "Tansistor" :lol2::lol2:
Saw one of them once....... In a MUSEUM from memory! LOL
I had expected to be reading of IT issue's too, but am well aware of the older use of the term wireless. Sometime around the radiogram wasn't it??? LOL
jik22
7th November 2007, 06:17 PM
Modern radio is "Tansistor" :lol2::lol2:
Can't remember the last time I saw an actual transistor either...whether in a radio or not. Reminds me of high school electronics that! :)
dirtdawg
7th November 2007, 07:14 PM
thats why i always fit my own stereo's
460cixy
7th November 2007, 07:17 PM
well i dident think this thread would turn to this prety funny stuff. its rare that i use the term radio wireless is just old school and i like old school so this weekend will be spent fitting the heater and re wireing the wireless:cool:
googe
7th November 2007, 07:29 PM
Im with you Jimbo, I was thinking "wireless connection". Im pretty sure I have heard the term "wireless" in one of those old black and white movies, pretty sure the movies came on some big reel thingamajig :D
Regards
Stevo
:Rolling:
JohnE
8th November 2007, 05:54 AM
interesting sort of looks like the result of a radio instal i did in my first car when i was 17. except i used black tape,
till my neighbour the installer got hold of it and showed me the right way( back in the 70's)
john
BigJon
8th November 2007, 10:00 AM
[quote=stevo68;633390I have heard the term "wireless" in one of those old black and white movies, pretty sure the movies came on some big reel thingamajig :D
[/quote]
black and white movies? Oh, you mean a talking picture. Ah the "talkies". How times change...:p
DEFENDERZOOK
8th November 2007, 10:26 AM
pretty soon all this talk will turn towards vinyl.......
78.....45......33 1/3............
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