Disco 93, What's the Upgrade differences??

[Tank]

I have a 93 Disco Date of Build June 1993, it originally had the 3.5 EFI V8 and Auto, single coil, electronic ignition (Dissy), no Catalytic Conv.
Can anyone tell me the differences between Pre-Upgrade models and Upgraded Models, mechanically and cosmetic, inside and out, would be much obliged, Regards Frank.

[agrojnr]

Dash, gearbox, front end (lights grill etc), air bags, 7 seat option, dual control air con and heating, newer looking buttons (windows etc), better seating and fabric, 3.9L or 300tdi, R380 box, different air box etc etc etc.

The list is alot but if you look at a 95 model you can see the diff.

Adam

[101RRS]

Just be aware that between the Update model and the model you have there is an interim model that only sold for about 5 or 6 months from the end of 1993 to May 1994 when the update became available in the showrooms.

This interim model had the same basic body options and interior as the earlier pre update. The petrol engine was the 3.9 but with different ancillaries (basically the 3.5 stuff) - most obviously diffent aircleaner and had various fanbelts rather than the serpentine belt of the later 3.9. I believe the 200tdi was the same as the earlier 200 tdi but I am not sure.

The other changes was that this interim model had the antiroll suspension of the Update models with roll bars.

Gearboxes were the same as the earlier models and I think they still ran 10 spline diffs rather than the updates 24 spline.

The most obvious extenal difference in the V8 models with this interim model was the bright orange 3.9i decals on the guards - no other versions has these.

Garry

[trobbo]

Just be aware that between the Update model and the model you have there is an interim model that only sold for about 5 or 6 months from the end of 1993 to May 1994 when the update became available in the showrooms.

This interim model had the same basic body options and interior as the earlier pre update. The petrol engine was the 3.9 but with different ancillaries (basically the 3.5 stuff) - most obviously diffent aircleaner and had various fanbelts rather than the serpentine belt of the later 3.9. I believe the 200tdi was the same as the earlier 200 tdi but I am not sure.

The other changes was that this interim model had the antiroll suspension of the Update models with roll bars.

Gearboxes were the same as the earlier models and I think they still ran 10 spline diffs rather than the updates 24 spline.

The most obvious extenal difference in the V8 models with this interim model was the bright orange 3.9i decals on the guards - no other versions has these.

Garry

repeat after me
I am a F - R - E - A - K :wasntme:

[Utemad]

To add to the list:

MY95 has lights in the rear bumper and a high mount brake light.

Auto and transfer are the same (transfer has updates though, auto probably does too).

MY95 has ABS option.

Different brake master cylinders.

MY95 has options of grey or tan interior.

MY95 has sway bars and 24 spline axles.

Later MY95 have one shot grease filled swivels. Later models also have an on glass radio antenna on the driver's side cargo area window.

Basically they look the same from a distance but they are very different looking up close.

[101RRS]

repeat after me
I am a F - R - E - A - K :wasntme:

???

[trobbo]

for a model variant that was around for 5 months over 10 years ago you know waaaay tooooo much about that car (that's in a nice sort of way).

[Utemad]

for a model variant that was around for 5 months over 10 years ago you know waaaay tooooo much about a car that in a nice sort of way.


Past
1957 Series 1 88" - what a great car
1971 Series 3
1994 V8 3.9 Disco 1
1994 V8 Disco 1 Update
1957 Series 1 88" ex Military

It helps that he used to own one ;)

Besides.....who didn't know that? :p

[Scouse]

7 seat option7 seat was an option (dealer fit or post sale) from day one.


I believe the 200tdi was the same as the earlier 200 tdi but I am not sure.

Gearboxes were the same as the earlier models and I think they still ran 10 spline diffs rather than the updates 24 spline.

The 200tdi was the same & the 24 spline axles came in just prior to the 3.9 being released (no definite changeover VIN - it goes by axle number).

[trobbo]

It helps that he used to own one ;)

Besides.....who didn't know that? :p

I have a 94 update and i didn't :blush:

[Pedro_The_Swift]

is the update worth the lack of dash storage space?? airbags not withstanding--
everything slides off the newer dashes:(

if the D2 still had the passenger grab handle,, I wouldnt have side steps:D

[Utemad]

is the update worth the lack of dash storage space?? airbags not withstanding--
everything slides off the newer dashes:(

if the D2 still had the passenger grab handle,, I wouldnt have side steps:D

I can't picture the early D1 dash but my D1 update doesn't have airbags so I still have a grab handle and a storage area behind the grab handle.

You need some of that rubber matting. Don't know what it is called but looks a little like a packaging wrap. Just place it on the dash and put your sunnies or phone etc on it and they will not slide or move at all. Great stuff.

[101RRS]

for a model variant that was around for 5 months over 10 years ago you know waaaay tooooo much about that car (that's in a nice sort of way).

Not wanting to hijack the thread - it goes like this - always wanted to buy a new Range Rover but could never afford one so in Jan 94 buys the new model Disco just released - the interim model

2 weeks later driving along and I see this different Disco - better dash, different front, lights in the rear bumper :o (an early test update)

2 weeks later I read about a new updated disco in the mags - hey - I have just bought the new model - how can they release a new, newer model when I have just paid $42K for the latest model that has just been released.

I race into the dealer - yep new model on the way - hmmm :mad: I got a 15% discount off the price of the one I bought - negotiate - will you also give me the same discount if I order a new model? - yep - you are now a bulk Disco buyer. So I order site unseen but $6k changeover.

Old car is 6 weeks old with 3000km - hmm maybe I can sell before people become aware a new model is around, afterall I did get a good discount off the $49K retail price - result sold the car privately 2 weeks later for $1k more than I paid for it.

Got the new update in the first shipment - in early May 1994 - changeover only worked out about $1k.

Hence I know all about this interim model :) Hence in my signature block below you will see two 94 3.9 discos but only one is an update.

As a side the last of the 3.5s are the 93MY, the interim model is the 94MY and the update is the 95MY (even though it was released in Apr/May 94)

PS - I liked the orange 3.9 decals so I bought some for my update - so if you see a blue update with orange decals - it used to belong to me.

Garry

[Tank]

Not wanting to hijack the thread - it goes like this - always wanted to buy a new Range Rover but could never afford one so in Jan 94 buys the new model Disco just released - the interim model

2 weeks later driving along and I see this different Disco - better dash, different front, lights in the rear bumper :o (an early test update)

2 weeks later I read about a new updated disco in the mags - hey - I have just bought the new model - how can they release a new, newer model when I have just paid $42K for the latest model that has just been released.

I race into the dealer - yep new model on the way - hmmm :mad: I got a 15% discount off the price of the one I bought - negotiate - will you also give me the same discount if I order a new model? - yep - you are now a bulk Disco buyer. So I order site unseen but $6k changeover.

Old car is 6 weeks old with 3000km - hmm maybe I can sell before people become aware a new model is around, afterall I did get a good discount off the $49K retail price - result sold the car privately 2 weeks later for $1k more than I paid for it.

Got the new update in the first shipment - in early May 1994 - changeover only worked out about $1k.

Hence I know all about this interim model :) Hence in my signature block below you will see two 94 3.9 discos but only one is an update.

As a side the last of the 3.5s are the 93MY, the interim model is the 94MY and the update is the 95MY (even though it was released in Apr/May 94)

PS - I liked the orange 3.9 decals so I bought some for my update - so if you see a blue update with orange decals - it used to belong to me.

Garry
Garry and all the others that replied, THANKS for the help, my 06/93 Disco has 24 spline axles, but as they are Maxi Axles and Flanges and both ends have ARB Lockers I would say they were upgraded to 24 spline. The front CV's are from a 110, how do I identify them compared to the stockers, are they oil or grease lubed, have not pulled them apart yet, are the 93 Disco seals and front wheel bearings different to 110 front hub bearings or would it have 110 bearings and hubs along with the 110CV's, if there is a difference can anyone point it out, Thanks in advance, Regards Frank.

[DaveS3]

Garry and all the others that replied, THANKS for the help, my 06/93 Disco has 24 spline axles, but as they are Maxi Axles and Flanges and both ends have ARB Lockers I would say they were upgraded to 24 spline. The front CV's are from a 110, how do I identify them compared to the stockers, are they oil or grease lubed, have not pulled them apart yet, are the 93 Disco seals and front wheel bearings different to 110 front hub bearings or would it have 110 bearings and hubs along with the 110CV's, if there is a difference can anyone point it out, Thanks in advance, Regards Frank.

Easy to tell the CV's apart
110 have slightly bigger bell and integral stub
Disco would have had 32 spline inner axle with the 10spline separate stub.

As for oil or grease - I run oil, general consensus agrees here for various reasons such as better/more consistent overall lubrication and you can also see when your hub/swivel ball seals require replacing (as they'll be leaking oil) so they don't let water or other contaminants in.

Bearings - unsure I'll leave that to someone who has done the CV conversion.