door carriers

[dullbird]

hi guys

can anyone confirm to me that a disco that came out with a factory alloy as a spare.... has longer studs on the rear door carrier than one that came out with a steel spare

as i'm getting a shovel and axe holder but when you look at my spare i dont think there is enough on the thread to be able to put a 1-2mm plate between the alloy and the carrier..........

i originally had a steel on the back of my car but i swapped it of for an alloy and the alloy really only just fits on stud wise

thanks

lou

[DEFENDERZOOK]

as far as i know.......the ones with alloys had 3 thick spacers that went behind the wheel.......to keep it off the door........

[Franz]

hi guys

can anyone confirm to me that a disco that came out with a factory alloy as a spare.... has longer studs on the rear door carrier than one that came out with a steel spare

as i'm getting a shovel and axe holder but when you look at my spare i dont think there is enough on the thread to be able to put a 1-2mm plate between the alloy and the carrier..........

i originally had a steel on the back of my car but i swapped it of for an alloy and the alloy really only just fits on stud wise

thanks

lou
Do you have a steel spare on your vehicle (or did it come with a steel spare originally)?

I just bought a shovel holder and it fits OK on my vehicle (which has 16x8 rims). I don't think the model with steel wheels had a different carrier but I could be wrong.

What length are the studs on your carrier?

[dullbird]

as far as i know.......the ones with alloys had 3 thick spacers that went behind the wheel.......to keep it off the door........


mmmmm i dont really understand what your saying tony if all the carriers are the same and i put three thick spacers behind my alloy wheel to keep it off the door (not that it is on the door) then i dont think i could even get the spare on!!! i will post a pic tomorrow if i remember, to show you how much the wheel nut goes onto the stud.........

[Quiggers]

Dunno, dbird... I had a 95 Rossignol a while ago, which had four alloys on the road and a steel as the spare.

The door rig setup seemed the same as what's on the back of my current 93 model...same narrow nuts with plastic spacer/washers and the dress plate cover thinghy...

GQ

[LandyAndy]

Hi Dullbird
Mine came with the steel spare,the alloy I fitted bolted on no problems at all,unsure what Tony means,with spacers the spare definately wont fit.
Andrew

[DEFENDERZOOK]

well......the wheel nuts for the alloys go deep into the holes and grab the studs......

the wheel nuts for steel rims sit on the outside of the holes so the stud needs to stick out through the rim.......

unless the spacers were used for the steel rims.......
its been quite a few years.......
but either way......the carriers were all the same........


take off one of the nuts from your road wheels and see how much the threads poke through the rim.......
and dont forget.....with the spare.....you can get away with having a few less threads
holding the rim on......as all the nuts are doing is holding on the wheel......
not the weight of the whole rig.......

[100I]

My mate's SE7 has a steel spare

[sschmez]

My '95 D1a had a steel spare, which fitted nicely with the plastic cover etc .... when I fitted an alloy spare I found the studs were too long.
The studs "bottomed out" inside the alloy wheel nuts before the wheel was held securely and I fitted spacers behind the wheel to remedy this.

Stevo

[Utemad]

I can't remember where I read it. Either the RAVE CD or the parts CD (just looked in the RAVE CD and couldn't find it). Anyway I read that the wheel carriers are the same but there are spacers to fit the 235/70 tyre.
So the difference between the spacers or no spacers isn't the type of wheel but the type of tyre on the wheel. I'm guessing that the steel wheels only came with 205 tyres from the factory whereas the mags could have had either tyre.

EDIT: Having said that my last set of tyres were 255/70 on factory mags and they didn't rub on the back door when mounted as a spare. I don't have any spacers on my wheel carrier.

[njz]

I've got a '97 that came with a steel spare and I also have a 2nd set of 5 factory alloys with STTs that I put on for trips. The carrier nuts fit both the alloy and the steel wheel fine.

When I put my shovel holder (4x4equip) on there is just enough thread. I've done quite a few trips with it with zero probs. :cool:

[Scouse]

There are a couple of spacers used depending on wheel/tyre configuration.

1. Steel wheel with 205 tyre:
No spacers between carrier & door.
No spacers between wheel & carrier.

2. Steel wheel with 235 tyre:
Spacers between carrier & door.
No spacers between wheel & carrier.

3. Alloy wheel with 235 tyre:
Spacers between carrier & door.
Spacers between wheel & carrier.

As far as I've seen, there were no alloys with 205 tyres from the factory.


The carrier to door spacers are 2 long strips, about 1/4" thick IIRC. Part # ANR5040

The wheel to carrier spacers are like washers. Not too sure how thick as I'm going by a picture. Part # WA116101L.

[dullbird]

is this what your wheel nuts look like on your studs then i have at least 7 treads showing on my'n and that is with the wheel touching the carrier so you guys think that this will be ok then.......i'm still going to buy the shovel holder maybe see what it fits like when it comes...

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/11/196.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/11/197.jpg

[discowhite]

lou, the studs arnt supposed to come to the end of the nuts.
there will be at least 25mm of effective thread length used by the nut, loosing another 2-3mm wont make the wheel fall off.

take one of the nuts off and measure the total length and then minus the but not used, this will give you the effective length.

cheers phil