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WildOne
12th November 2007, 09:22 AM
I had a busy day on saturday installing my new Lovells suspension, had a bit of drama getting the airbags to reinflate only to find the back door was'nt fully closed. Worked this out when i'd had enough and was packing up for the day feeling a bit fed up!!! So all good in the end.
I found i needed spring compressors to get the Heavy Duty 2" lift springs in but i may have been doing things the hard way.:twisted:
The Disco is noy sitting 75mm higher than it was and so far, on road anyway, things feel 200% better.
Only downside is that i now have very little clearance under the garage door and when the roofrack goes on......
don't think it will fit:cool:
Now i need to get it dirty:twisted:

cal415
12th November 2007, 11:37 AM
I had a busy day on saturday installing my new Lovells suspension, had a bit of drama getting the airbags to reinflate only to find the back door was'nt fully closed. Worked this out when i'd had enough and was packing up for the day feeling a bit fed up!!! So all good in the end.
I found i needed spring compressors to get the Heavy Duty 2" lift springs in but i may have been doing things the hard way.:twisted:
The Disco is noy sitting 75mm higher than it was and so far, on road anyway, things feel 200% better.
Only downside is that i now have very little clearance under the garage door and when the roofrack goes on......
don't think it will fit:cool:
Now i need to get it dirty:twisted:
Looks good,, is that the 4x4DE kit? looks the same as what i had, i actualy extended my sensor spacers by 7-8mm and got a further 20mm left out of it, pushing the airbags a little harder but it still had a great ride.

What shocks did you use?

Piddler
12th November 2007, 11:59 AM
Are they Lovell Front Springs and if so what do you think of them?

I have 779 ARB which have sagged in 18 months (dam winch and steel B/Bar)and a thinking of changing them for heavy duty 50mm lift Lovell's.

Cheers

WildOne
12th November 2007, 12:27 PM
Looks good,, is that the 4x4DE kit? looks the same as what i had, i actualy extended my sensor spacers by 7-8mm and got a further 20mm left out of it, pushing the airbags a little harder but it still had a great ride.

What shocks did you use?

Lovells HD 2" lift front springs, 2" aluminium spacers under the airbags, i extended the sensors by 45mm to match the ride height at the front (i may have to readjust this if the front settles in coming weeks). I used Lovells Gas Legend Shocks, fairly new on the market from what i understand, we'll see how they go. All up cost me $550. Great improvement compared to the origional suspension that came out after doing 165K!!

WildOne
12th November 2007, 12:35 PM
Are they Lovell Front Springs and if so what do you think of them?

I have 779 ARB which have sagged in 18 months (dam winch and steel B/Bar)and a thinking of changing them for heavy duty 50mm lift Lovell's.

Cheers

I have a steel TJM Winchbar, no winch yet. Yes they are Lovells (Part # RFR-32HD). I have an old set of 779 ARB springs here, they have 7,5 turns at 15mm thick, the Lovells have 7 turns at 16mm thick. Both for a 50mm lift. So not much in it.
Will be interesting to see how they hold up.
If you don't like the winch you could always give it to me?:angel:

cal415
12th November 2007, 12:40 PM
Lovells HD 2" lift front springs, 2" aluminium spacers under the airbags, i extended the sensors by 45mm to match the ride height at the front (i may have to readjust this if the front settles in coming weeks). I used Lovells Gas Legend Shocks, fairly new on the market from what i understand, we'll see how they go. All up cost me $550. Great improvement compared to the origional suspension that came out after doing 165K!!
so you actualy spaced the sensor up about 45mm? that would give you around 3-3.5 in of lift, the spacer kits normally come with a sensor spacer that spaces it up 28mm i think it was, that gives 2in lift because the sensor is around half way down the rear trailing arm. mine was about 35mm spaced and i got just under 70mm of lift from it.

WildOne
12th November 2007, 12:58 PM
so you actualy spaced the sensor up about 45mm? that would give you around 3-3.5 in of lift, the spacer kits normally come with a sensor spacer that spaces it up 28mm i think it was, that gives 2in lift because the sensor is around half way down the rear trailing arm. mine was about 35mm spaced and i got just under 70mm of lift from it.

My hub to guard measurements were/are as follows;
Front left 465/550
Front right 480/550
Rear left 470/560
Rear right 475/550

I spaced the sensors to match the ride height the 2" lift front springs gave me. So yes almost 3" from what it was. I would expect this to settle a bit over the next few weeks. Should be interesting to see how much.
Does anyone know what the hub to guard measurement is on a stock Disco 2 out of the factory?

tempestv8
12th November 2007, 03:01 PM
Looks like you've done a good job on installing the new springs and shocks in the front and the spacers in the rear - well done!

What brand of shocks did you go for? It's best to check the rear suspension at full droop to see if your ABS lines or brake lines are going to be at their full stretch.

As for the front, if you haven't already tested it, longer shocks will cause the front driveshaft to hit the crossmember. Also watch out for max extension of ABS and brake lines.

Lawrance

WildOne
12th November 2007, 03:23 PM
Looks like you've done a good job on installing the new springs and shocks in the front and the spacers in the rear - well done!

What brand of shocks did you go for? It's best to check the rear suspension at full droop to see if your ABS lines or brake lines are going to be at their full stretch.

As for the front, if you haven't already tested it, longer shocks will cause the front driveshaft to hit the crossmember. Also watch out for max extension of ABS and brake lines.

Lawrance

Do you know what the standard Disco 2 hub to guard measurement is when new? My Disco is now riding 3" higher than it was and i am assuming that this is due to it having originally having sagged by 1" as i've only installed a 2" lift kit. From all the research i've done a 2" kit should not cause any problems with propshaft clearances and brake/abs lines? Please correct me if i'm wrong, this is'nt something i want to find out while out in the sticks:eek:

Cheers, Phill

crash
12th November 2007, 03:36 PM
Are you able to supply me with the part numbers you ordered and the total cost of the springs and shocks ? Did you replace your bushes at the same time
I have an '02 Disco I am looking at upgrading the suspension on and have a winch bar + winch.
So far most companies look like costing around $1200 without fitting costs (which I will do myself)

Ken
12th November 2007, 04:02 PM
Do you know what the standard Disco 2 hub to guard measurement is when new? My Disco is now riding 3" higher than it was and i am assuming that this is due to it having originally having sagged by 1" as i've only installed a 2" lift kit. From all the research i've done a 2" kit should not cause any problems with propshaft clearances and brake/abs lines? Please correct me if i'm wrong, this is'nt something i want to find out while out in the sticks:eek:

Cheers, Phill

There shouldnt be a problem with propshaft clearance or brake lines stretching beyond there limits as a 2" lift is suitable for the standard brake and abs lines after that it gets a bit more costly

WildOne
12th November 2007, 04:13 PM
Are you able to supply me with the part numbers you ordered and the total cost of the springs and shocks ? Did you replace your bushes at the same time
I have an '02 Disco I am looking at upgrading the suspension on and have a winch bar + winch.
So far most companies look like costing around $1200 without fitting costs (which I will do myself)

All up it cost me $550 for 4 x 2" lift shocks and 2 x HD 2" lift front springs. I did'nt need rear springs though this would only have cost an extra $150 i think. Try this site www.suspensionstuff.com.au

hot rover
12th November 2007, 04:45 PM
Sounds good. Where did you get your air bag spacers And the sensor spacces from or did you make them your self?
The sensor spacer was lengthend by 45MM is that the hole center distance?

WildOne
12th November 2007, 04:54 PM
Sounds good. Where did you get your air bag spacers And the sensor spacces from or did you make them your self?
The sensor spacer was lengthend by 45MM is that the hole center distance?

I got the spacers from Walker on this site, he did'nt have the "bayonet" fitting plates that bolt to the spacer to accept the airbag or the sensor height adjusting brackets, so i made both.
The sensor height adjusting bracket is 45mm hole centre distance.

hot rover
12th November 2007, 05:10 PM
Thanks for that. Excuse my ignorance here but what are the bayonet caps an what do they look like. I looked into doing this mod to mine and the local suspension expert told me i couldn"t be done so i am very interrested in finding out more so i can make the mod to mine.

WildOne
12th November 2007, 05:31 PM
Thanks for that. Excuse my ignorance here but what are the bayonet caps an what do they look like. I looked into doing this mod to mine and the local suspension expert told me i couldn"t be done so i am very interrested in finding out more so i can make the mod to mine.

The SLS Airbags on the D2 attach to the Diff with a "Bayonett" fitting. In a similar fashion to a bayonett fitting light bulb. You have to allign the fittings and twist the bag 90 deg to lock it in place.
Basically, you have to replicate the airbag fitting, that is welded to the diff, on top of your spacer.

Or.....you could scrap the airbags and just install coils?

cal415
12th November 2007, 08:41 PM
The air bags will not settle, if they drop below the intended height they will just inflate more to bring it back up, what you have in the rear is a real 3in lift and it will stay that way with the sensors you have used,, this is all good if thats what your after, the additional pressure in the bag may cause the ride to be a little firmer and may reduce the life of the bags some what.

Have you flexed it up to see how well it flexes? did you extend the rear bump stops at all? i found with the 2in spacer block without the bump stop extensions supplied with the kit i got it was right on the limit of the air bag being fully compressed and full tuck, also if you have used longer shocks you might want to check if the bags reach there full height when the axles drops as you might tear the bag if they are to long.

cal415
12th November 2007, 08:53 PM
There shouldnt be a problem with propshaft clearance or brake lines stretching beyond there limits as a 2" lift is suitable for the standard brake and abs lines after that it gets a bit more costly
its not so much the ammount of lift as it is the open length of the shocks,, if you have 50-60mm longer shocks i tihnk you would have to space the front cross member and start looking at the ABS lines... i had long travel bilsteins the ABS/brakes lines were at the max at full drop in the rear and that was after i had fed more line through and spaced the brackets down about 30mm, i thnk the shocks were about 50mm longer then standard.

crash
13th November 2007, 01:13 PM
Did you get the Lovells shocks as well? Hard to tell from the pictures.

cucinadio
23rd November 2007, 06:04 AM
I had a busy day on saturday installing my new Lovells suspension, had a bit of drama getting the airbags to reinflate only to find the back door was'nt fully closed. Worked this out when i'd had enough and was packing up for the day feeling a bit fed up!!! So all good in the end.
I found i needed spring compressors to get the Heavy Duty 2" lift springs in but i may have been doing things the hard way.:twisted:
The Disco is noy sitting 75mm higher than it was and so far, on road anyway, things feel 200% better.
Only downside is that i now have very little clearance under the garage door and when the roofrack goes on......
don't think it will fit:cool:
Now i need to get it dirty:twisted:

Hay,

mate how much did the lovells set up set u back an how is it travlin now im looking to do mine but im leaning to kigs and konis , i used kings and konis on my gu but th price is abit prohibitive this time round after the new bub

cheers