View Full Version : Is a Dunnydoor station wagon a 4x4?
drivesafe
14th November 2007, 09:11 PM
I meant to post this a few weeks back, as a warning to anyone contemplating renting a vehicle from Buggerit rentals.
I organised and paid for a 4x4 rental, 3 months before I was to pick up the rental in Greymouth, NZ.
I had organised for a Ford Territory and after finalising the paperwork at the agents office at the railway station, I was given the keys and the rego number for the vehicle and was told it was just over the road from the office.
Went outside and looked up and down the road, but no Territory.
Went back into the office and was again told it was over the road but the car handler would show me where it was. Once out side, he points to this Dunnydoor station wagon and said “there it is”.
I told him I had a 4x4 organised and he directed me back into the office.
Back at the desk, AGAIN, I pointed out that my rental was supposed to be a 4x4, specifically, a Ford Territory.
To this, the Buggerit agent shows me the agreement paperwork and points out that it states’ A ford Territory or comparable vehicle”
To this I said I can understand that it could be another brand of vehicle but there is no way on earth that Dunnydoor station wagon was anything comparable to a 4x4.
It took about 30 minutes of arguing and treats to get some legals involved before they came to their senses and organised a Territory from Avis.
Be very careful when renting vehicles from this mob.
Cheers.
101RRS
14th November 2007, 09:17 PM
Wasn't a CV8 or CV6 by any chance? - a dunny door station wagon and more capable offroad than a territory - but then neither is all that capable.
abaddonxi
14th November 2007, 10:18 PM
I meant to post this a few weeks back, as a warning to anyone contemplating renting a vehicle from Buggerit rentals.
I organised and paid for a 4x4 rental, 3 months before I was to pick up the rental in Greymouth, NZ.
I had organised for a Ford Territory and after finalising the paperwork at the agents office at the railway station, I was given the keys and the rego number for the vehicle and was told it was just over the road from the office.
Went outside and looked up and down the road, but no Territory.
Went back into the office and was again told it was over the road but the car handler would show me where it was. Once out side, he points to this Dunnydoor station wagon and said “there it is”.
I told him I had a 4x4 organised and he directed me back into the office.
Back at the desk, AGAIN, I pointed out that my rental was supposed to be a 4x4, specifically, a Ford Territory.
To this, the Buggerit agent shows me the agreement paperwork and points out that it states’ A ford Territory or comparable vehicle”
To this I said I can understand that it could be another brand of vehicle but there is no way on earth that Dunnydoor station wagon was anything comparable to a 4x4.
It took about 30 minutes of arguing and treats to get some legals involved before they came to their senses and organised a Territory from Avis.
Be very careful when renting vehicles from this mob.
Cheers.
I've been to Greymouth, wouldn't want to be trapped there.
What kind of treats did you offer them?
:D
Cheers
Simon
dobbo
15th November 2007, 12:53 AM
Remember that a Territory comes in both AWD and RWD options, A commodore also has RWD and in adventurwer spec AWD options, both are station wagons, it could be classified as a comparable vehicle.
drivesafe
15th November 2007, 07:00 AM
Remember that a Territory comes in both AWD and RWD options, A commodore also has RWD and in adventurwer spec AWD options, both are station wagons, it could be classified as a comparable vehicle.
I can assure you the dunnydoor was a standard RWD and even though we had no planned intentions to go off road, we just wanted something that could go a little further of road than a standard sedan could, if the opportunity presented itself and when we finally got what we had paid for, we got the AWD Territory.
It’s funny because the crap of the Territory and the dunnydoor being both wagons and that’s what Buggerit rentals tried to put forward as their argument of the vehicles being the same categories EXCEPT you could still hire the station wagon in a different and cheaper category so why would you pay a higher rate for the same vehicle if you specifically wanted a wagon.
This is nothing more than a gimmick where they charge you the higher rate for a 4x4 and then give you the cheaper standard vehicle. Didn’t work and a threat to get NZ’s equivalent of Consumer Affairs involved seemed to give them a change of opinion as to what is and is not a 4x4.
I must be honest, I felt sorry for the agent at Greymouth, because they were just the meat in the sandwich and parasite on the other end of the phone in Sydney was the main cause of the problem and while this dipstick was running around trying to come up with every excuse in the world as to why someone would pay more for a station wagon that they had too, the agent managed to produce the correct goods.
rangieman
15th November 2007, 04:38 PM
Both the ford territory and the holden Adventra are not 4x4,s as you guys put it
They are all wheel drives and will never be 4x4,s in standard form:eek:
FenianEel
15th November 2007, 05:11 PM
Both the ford territory and the holden Adventra are not 4x4,s as you guys put it
They are all wheel drives and will never be 4x4,s in standard form:eek:
Absolutely right Rangieman;)
Utemad
15th November 2007, 05:59 PM
Lucky you didn't pay for a Range Rover wagon and get stuck with a Commodore wagon :mad:
drivesafe
15th November 2007, 07:09 PM
Both the ford territory and the holden Adventra are not 4x4,s as you guys put it
They are all wheel drives and will never be 4x4,s in standard form:eek:
Yep that’s what they are, AWDs not 4x4s and the only genuine 4x4 on offer was a Pajero and at a higher rental fee.
The problem was that the dunnydoor was not an adventra, had it been an Adventra I may have been interested in taking it just to see how they go.
The standard dunnydoor station wagon and the Territory are actually two different categories of vehicles and Buggerit were just trying it on.
I wonder how many people just except the downgrade and drive off.
moose
15th November 2007, 07:56 PM
Just wondering if you specified a 4x4 (or AWD) or just a territory. If it was just a territory they heard, then maybe they thought it would be ok to substitute a 2wd terri for a 2wd commode.
Not having a go, just curious.
drivesafe
15th November 2007, 08:59 PM
Just wondering if you specified a 4x4 (or AWD) or just a territory. If it was just a territory they heard, then maybe they thought it would be ok to substitute a 2wd terri for a 2wd commode.
Not having a go, just curious.
Hi moose, didn’t think you were having a go and it’s a reasonable question and the main reason for my bitch section at Greymouth.
I specifically ordered, as per their range of vehicles on offer, a 4x4 and if they have offered me ANY 4x4 or AWD, I would have been satisfied, but they were trying to get me to take a lower category vehicle ( at the higher rental ) as a substitute and had they been in the right, I don’t think threatening to involve NZ Consumer Affairs would have had any effect, BUT it did.
Cheers
George130
15th November 2007, 09:34 PM
I had the opposite a few years ago for work. We hired 2 station wagons for a driver training course. Due to shortages we got one falcon station wagon and a Mitsubishi challenger. It was fun putting the challenger round the skid pan:twisted:.
101RRS
15th November 2007, 09:39 PM
It was fun putting the challenger round the skid pan:twisted:.
Was a member of the Canberra Jag Club and we often went out to the Sutton Driver Training complex. The Jag was off the road so took the Disco - was the faster around the track than the 6cylinder jag sedans (the awd did it through the corners).
On the skid pan the disco was a real handful - plowing straight ahead with plow understeer.
Was a lot of fun though.
Gazzz
moose
15th November 2007, 10:31 PM
I specifically ordered......
'Nuff said. Not good enough by them.
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