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jx2mad
29th November 2007, 04:14 PM
My 300TDI goes in on 9th Dec for a gas mod. Can't wait. I will keep all posted on results.Jim
Grizzly_Adams
29th November 2007, 04:33 PM
You lucky lucky buggar :TakeABow:
What type are you getting?
Xavie
29th November 2007, 05:03 PM
Good on ya, will be waiting to hear results and see pics!!!
I am trying to wait for my fender to run out of factory warranty so I can feel less guilty about doing it.
jx2mad
29th November 2007, 07:05 PM
It is the new computer chip control system with exhaust sensor
Disco_owner
29th November 2007, 07:34 PM
It is the new computer chip control system with exhaust sensor
jx2 how much is it setting you back mate ? if you don't mind me asking , with the government Grant taken out of the equation? is it a standard installation ?
Grizzly_Adams
29th November 2007, 09:25 PM
It is the new computer chip control system with exhaust sensor
Yummie :)
jx2mad
29th November 2007, 10:09 PM
This system will cost around $2300 after rebate. Sounds expensive? Consider a saving of 2L/100K. Fuel cost of nearly $1.50/L That is $3.00/100K, $30/1000k, $300/10000K. Almost pays for the service. Pays for itself in under 100,000K. If better economy is obtained and I have heard of older TDI vehicles getting around 6.5L/100K then the time to recoup cost is dramatically reduced. Furthermore, the landrover gets a good power boost coupled to a cooler running, low pollutant and a quieter motor ( no diesel knock) I was concerned about putting this system on a motor with 220,000K on the clock but was assured that making the motor run smoother with no diesel knock is actually great if bearings etc are a little worn. It takes the stress off them. Jim
PAT303
30th November 2007, 06:29 AM
Can you get the rebate twice?I already have used it on the disco but I want the gas on the 'fender. Pat
jx2mad
30th November 2007, 06:47 AM
Worth a try for 2nd rebate. After all it is a different vehicle and as far as I am aware it is for having gas fitter! Jim
knp
30th November 2007, 07:46 PM
Have never heard of this gas mod for a diesel.
Sounds pretty good to me.
Can someone post a link or something where I can find more info please?
Cheers
Peter
Disco Pom
30th November 2007, 08:02 PM
Here ya go..
http://www.teamgreenautogas.com.au/web%20-%204wd%20brochure.pdf
cheers,
Richard
T.D.5
2nd December 2007, 09:35 AM
Try hunter gas technology DieselGas Sequent II (http://www.gastek.com.au/cgi-bin/engine.pl?Page=page.html&Rec=63)
Let us know if you proceed
mcrover
2nd December 2007, 10:10 AM
Ive had 3 LR mechanics say that it can blow the head gasket but I havnt heard yet of anyone who has had it happen to so I dont know if it is how it is set up or the older systems or what but all 3 are very well respected in the industry.
I would love to do it but Im wanting to wait until a few more people do it first.
Xavie
6th December 2007, 08:52 AM
Did you see the article in one of the popular 4x4 mags? Sorry I forget which one I think it was 4x4 monthly/action. they did a 2,000 km trip through the outback and wrote up a piece on the diesel gas system. Thought you might be interested.It might be this months mag I think.
agrojnr
6th December 2007, 09:19 AM
What about the tank where will it go and how big are they, the other gas systems I've seen in landrovers take up the entire boot
Adam
PAT303
6th December 2007, 09:28 AM
Rumbles at Dungog have a defender on D/G and they have had no problems as yet.It goes like a dog with it's bum on fire and the cylinder head temp is lower with it running than straight diesel so it would be better for the engine.In WA there is a fleet of mine trucks,about 20 all up that have been running on gas for years and they have run longer between service's and use cheaper fuel.They are changing the whole fleet over and the saving's they have had are huge.It is not new,untested technology. Pat
Grizzly_Adams
6th December 2007, 09:45 AM
What about the tank where will it go and how big are they, the other gas systems I've seen in landrovers take up the entire boot
Adam
G'day Adam,
Diesel Gas technology is not the same as LPG in Petrol vehicles in that with the Diesel solution it injects the LPG at the same time as the Diesel, whereas with the Petrol vehicles it is either Petrol or LPG.
As such the tank doesn't need to be anywhere near the size. I was quoted approximately 1/3rd the size of your main tank and usually (with Defenders anyway) there's plenty of room under the sill for such a tank.
procrastination inc
6th December 2007, 04:30 PM
Can you get the rebate twice?I already have used it on the disco but I want the gas on the 'fender. Pat............
<i>LPG Vehicle Scheme</i> - Frequently Asked Questions (http://www.ausindustry.gov.au/content/content.cfm?ObjectID=4F950433-C690-49A3-85D9F492D1A67BCB&L2Parent=AEB901E5-7CB8-4143-A3BF33B2423F9DA6&L3Parent=D47685C8-0B0B-459C-B07A2EFBDB3D4AF7)
Q. What if my family has more than one car?
A. If you and your partner own two vehicles, each registered in different names, then you can both claim the grant. If you and your partner are joint registered owners of a vehicle then one of you can apply for the grant for that vehicle. If your partner is also the registered owner of another vehicle, they may apply for the grant for that vehicle. If children are the registered owners of other vehicles, then each of those children is eligible to claim the grant for their vehicle.
Q. Why am I only allowed one conversion every 3 years?
A. There is always potential for this sort of assistance measure to be abused. Having a cap on the number of conversions by each individual is the fairest way to ensure that as many genuine claimants as possible can have their vehicle converted. Most people don't acquire a new vehicle more than once every 3 years so this limitation shouldn't represent much or any disadvantage to anyone.
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