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Lucas
29th November 2007, 08:48 PM
I can only remember seeing 1 or 2 in the past few years.
The other day I saw 2 in the space of 20 mins heading into the city the other night.
Any one had any expirence with them, how would they stack up against a Defender ??.

Outlaw
29th November 2007, 08:56 PM
they are brillaint and could have been a great competitor against a fender... powerful, difflocks etc.

LandyAndy
29th November 2007, 08:57 PM
I would say they would be the only FACTORY STANDARD 4wd that would out perform a FACTORY STANDARD Landrover.
Ive had a ride in one in some real tough terrain.Factory lockers all round make you go a long way.
Last few trips to Perth Ive noticed plenty on the roads too,Im guessing they are secondhand ex Jap imports.Pick one up for $12 to $15G and you have the basis of an awsome tough off-roader.
Andrew

Reads90
29th November 2007, 09:03 PM
Used to compete against a bloke who had a v8 one Shorty.. nice trucks very nice trucks, alot stronger axels than land rover and come with diff lockers as standard
I saw one today as well .
As i have always said if there was no defedner i would have a G wagon

Outlaw
29th November 2007, 09:04 PM
oh and check this out

Marking its 25th anniversary, the 2005 Mercedes-Benz G55 AMG was relaunched as the G55 Kompressor or G55K and received a boost in power, thanks to a 5.5-liter, supercharged V8 developing 469 horsepower (350 kW) and 516 ft·lbf (700 N·m). of torque.

Plus now it's going to the Australian army as of next year supplying 1100 vehicles.

If the fender ever disappears i'd be getting one of these for sure...

B92 8NW
29th November 2007, 09:16 PM
Flawless.... the Merc 300D was the Td5 of the eighties... beautiful vehicles, bulletproof diesel engine.

101RRS
29th November 2007, 09:17 PM
I guess we talking about the 1980s Merc G wagon rather than the 1980s Toyota Landcruiser 60 series G wagon. Hmmm took a while to work that out :eek:

Garry

Reads90
29th November 2007, 09:20 PM
As i said used to compete against a chap called tony baskall . Who had a 5 ltr V8 winch challenge Merc G wagon. Won alot of stuff in the uk and was and is and aswsome truck


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/11/9.jpg

This what it looks like now
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj9bzE0D1vc

camel_landy
30th November 2007, 03:19 AM
Yep, stonking trucks. :cool:

I've got a mate out in Romania who wins events in his one. He rolled it down a hillside one time, 5 complete rolls and it barely marked the body shell!!!

I'd be happy to run one, if I could afford it!!! The V8 is the one I like. ;)

M

PAT303
30th November 2007, 06:22 AM
We will be seeing alot more off them soon.The Army is buying a couple of thousand of them. Pat

BigJon
30th November 2007, 07:03 AM
I think it is more accurately "G Wagen". Funny germans with their funny spelling.

camel_landy
30th November 2007, 07:16 AM
I think it is more accurately "G Wagen". Funny germans with their funny spelling.

The 'G' is pronounced as "Gay".
The 'W' is pronounced as a "V".

To pronounce it properly it has to be said: "Gay Var-gen" :D

M

Outlaw
30th November 2007, 08:34 AM
or to be even more procise... Geländewagen :D

But too much of a mouthful for me so will stick with G Wagon :p

Phoenix
30th November 2007, 08:43 AM
Just a pity there is no chance of us getting them after the army finishes because MB will buy them back.

New they are very expensive compared to the defender. when they first came out they competed price wise with the range rover really.

Reads90
30th November 2007, 08:47 AM
They used to sell only about 5 a year in the uk in their hight

ellard
30th November 2007, 08:49 AM
Hi there

We have a retired camel farmer whom used to reside up north (Alice Springs area) whom has retired to Quorn in the flinders ranges (35 km from us).

He has tried alot of vehciles whin the desert and he still has two of the early MB G-Wagens (one for spared) and they are very capable vehicles off road in the standard trim.

The only problems I see - hope your not in a hurry as they are bloody slow (80-90km hrs) on the highway.

Wayne

Reads90
30th November 2007, 08:52 AM
I saw a ropy short wheel base G wagon on the side of the road in cleveland and nearly stopped and offered the chap money for it. But i did not and now wish i had now

ak
30th November 2007, 09:03 AM
The new ones the army are getting TDV6 3 diff locks would have to be the 4wd of all 4wd's. Landrover should have done the same with the new defender. A G wagon would be about the only 4wd that would kill a defender not only off road but in every other department too. Well made and looks the goods to. Wish they sold them here.

solmanic
30th November 2007, 09:04 AM
Two currently for sale that I could find.

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/MERCEDES/230GE/details.aspx?__sid=1168246545B5&Cr=0&__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32|1||pCar_ImageCo unt_Int32|1||pCar_LastModifiedDate_DateTime|1&State=All%20States&distance=25&silo=1003&seot=0&__Nne=20&Model=230GE&R=1381746&__N=1090+0+4294964242+834+285+257&Make=MERCEDES&state_id=0&trecs=1

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/MERCEDES/300GD/details.aspx?__sid=1168246545B5&Cr=0&__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32|1||pCar_ImageCo unt_Int32|1||pCar_LastModifiedDate_DateTime|1&State=All%20States&distance=25&silo=1003&seot=0&__Nne=20&Model=300GD&R=1768522&__N=1090+0+4294957384+834+285+257&Make=MERCEDES&state_id=0&trecs=1

disco2hse
30th November 2007, 09:26 AM
As i said used to compete against a chap called tony baskall . Who had a 5 ltr V8 winch challenge Merc G wagon. Won alot of stuff in the uk and was and is and aswsome truck

This what it looks like now

Extremely cool :cool::cool: Co-driver? Not so much, hand signals would be a lot easier to listen to :wasntme:

spudboy
30th November 2007, 03:59 PM
Two currently for sale that I could find.



Not as expensive as I thought they'd be. Reckon spares would be a killer though.

Lucas
30th November 2007, 06:23 PM
Still a lot of cash for the vintage, how would they compair to a izuzu powered county with lockers.

Offender90
30th November 2007, 07:12 PM
you can also go the import route. Approx same vintage, but a lot less Ks on the clock, see below

http://www.prestigemotorsport.com.au/modules/stock/index.php?StockID=4100

There's a good summary on their performance in "The off-road 4WD book". The highlights:

Off-road performance wise, right up there, an equivalent defender would have better axle articulation, (but with cross axle diffs front and rear, would you really need it?) otherwise, the G-Wagen outperforms (on paper)

A lot of thought went into them, come with absolutely everything you'd want both off-road and on, user switchable ABS, (also switches off automatically in diff locked mode), additional vacuum reservoir in the braking system so you have vacuum assisted breaking even if your engine stalls etc etc

and finally my favourite

"The doors are well sealed for wading, but this can lead to flotation, lowering traction"

something the defender will never be able to be accused of!! :wasntme:

Seems quite underpowered for on-road, especially the 3L diesel. It makes
83 kW @ 4600 RPM!!! and 191 Nm torque at 2800 RPM.

The book's author still prefers defenders :D

LandyAndy
30th November 2007, 08:33 PM
As I said,they are a rare vehicle in australia too,the one I had a ride in was one of 2 sold in WA that year and was 6 months old,the owner is a G Wagen nutter as much as we are Landy nutters.It impressed the hell out of me!!!
My last 3 trips to Perth Ive spotted at least 3 each trip,and yes I would grab one too!!!!
They have to be coming in as grey imports as they just werent big sellers ANYTIME!!!
Andrew

abaddonxi
30th November 2007, 08:42 PM
There's an Australian G Wagen forum that I just happened to be browsing a week or so ago.

Not quite as busy as here.:D

Cheers
Simon