How many civilian Forward Controls are there.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

The FC's and military variations section has been going for a few days and I am wondering about the variant generally.

When I last looked there were about 3K of each of the Series 2a and similar numbers of Series 2b models produced. In the export Series 2B 6 cylinder, of which I have 3, there were 524 produced.

Does anyone know how many of either model or engine configuration came to Australia?

What about how many still exist?

I know that there are my 3 X 2Bs, Taz's one in Brisbane, Wilbur the ex-RAF one in Melbourne, another in a workshop in Zetland in Sydney and one in rural Victoria.

For the series 2a I know of Brian Danielson's one in Silverdale Sydney and then there's Ken West and his 6X6 Range Rover hybrid project.

Anyone else know of any? Or even have one?

Cheers
Diana

[Grizzly_Adams]

I know Taz had a second one he was looking at doing up, or maybe he was using it for sparts for his first one? Not sure, been a while since I spoke to him...

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I know Taz had a second one he was looking at doing up, or maybe he was using it for sparts for his first one? Not sure, been a while since I spoke to him...
Thanks Grizzly

I sent a PM to Taz the other day looking for info on the door trim, but he's not replied (but I also haven't been to that site today).

There have been a few around over the years, but am unaware if anyone in Oz keeps any tabs on them. Perhaps there's someone with a Register happening.

It would be good to find out and perhaps swap bits. I know that I have a few S2a ENV half-shafts that may be of use to someone, they are no good to me at present.

Diana

[rovercare]

one in rural Victoria.


Cheers
Diana

On the side of the South Gippsland highway, parked at a shed with a county??

[Lotz-A-Landies]

On the side of the South Gippsland highway, parked at a shed with a county??
The one I've heard about has been owned by a guy Leith Howie for many years, have never seen it but did track him down on the phone, (however since lost the details).

Have just remembered that there is a S2B camper in Kangaroo Valley

Diana

[rovercare]

The one I've heard about has been owned by a guy Leith Howie for many years, have never seen it but did track him down on the phone, (however since lost the details).

Have just remembered that there is a S2B camper in Kangaroo Valley

Diana

Dunno details, but its on the side of the highway down near Bena

[Xtreme]

One of the property owners hat we visit up in the Olinda area has mentioned that he has a FC. I've never actually seen it and don't know what model or vintage.
Will follow up when next in contact with him if you wish.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

One of the property owners hat we visit up in the Olinda area has mentioned that he has a FC. I've never actually seen it and don't know what model or vintage.
Will follow up when next in contact with him if you wish.
Roger

That would be great - I am thinking that I may start a little database, register if you like, to collect some data on the remaining ones.

Only 6,000 to start with - it can't be all that difficult can it? :confused::confused:

Not sure about privacy however!

Diana

P.S. Seems really weird to me - the details and owner of aircraft with a VH prefix are all in the public domain. However when it comes to cars, all the RTA will tell you is if it was a taxi.

[Bigbjorn]

In my time at Leyland & Truck & Bus Brisbane, we sold, from memory, only three 110/FC/6cyl. cab and chassis. I assume they were 2B's. They were the last in stock at Pressed Metal, Enfield. This would have been 1973-74, boom times, when we could sell any LR we could get.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

In my time at Leyland & Truck & Bus Brisbane, we sold, from memory, only three 110/FC/6cyl. cab and chassis. I assume they were 2B's. They were the last in stock at Pressed Metal, Enfield. This would have been 1973-74, boom times, when we could sell any LR we could get.
Brian

UK S2B production, where my 3 were built, ceased in 1972 so your date of 1973 would be about right.

Just as an addit, I recently learned that South African assembly continued until 1976 to fill contracts for the SA Army. These ones even had the S3 synchromesh gearbox from the S3 1 Ton.

Diana

[master chief]

Hello Diana,you probably already know this but flick pest control had quite a few F/C,s.i beleive they bought the last batch of 2B,s made.i rebuilt one years ago i,ll find the chassis number and let you know.:D

[rovercare]

Dunno details, but its on the side of the highway down near Bena

I reckon, If you asked 6.5rangie nicely, he'd be able to take a piccy next time he heads down to deliverance country:)

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Hello Diana,you probably already know this but flick pest control had quite a few F/C,s.i beleive they bought the last batch of 2B,s made.i rebuilt one years ago i,ll find the chassis number and let you know.:D
Justin

I think I may have one of the Flick units - I hear the spray was pretty caustic which promoted rust scaling on the steel components.


I reckon, If you asked 6.5rangie nicely, he'd be able to take a piccy next time he heads down to deliverance country:)

Pretty Pleeeaaasssee 6.5 Rangie - will you take a pic for me next time you pass. A number * would be even nicer - then I can start a rogues gallery er arrgh I mean an Album.

:D:D:D:D Diana

* the chassis number on the S2B (and I am assuming the S2A) is on the outside of the RHS front spring hanger

[Lotz-A-Landies]

When we moved to Caboolture there was one parked in a local paddock.
Its long gone now tho, and no idea where it went

There was also one in the Tamworth area which I believe may still be there.
NM

That seems to be the general story, someone used to know of one somewhere.

This pic was given to me a while ago - in a saw-mill somewhere near Narrabri in the 1990's.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/11/267.jpg
(Addit: If this were a Hollywood movie, I would be able to get the computer to pan around the other side and zoom to read the chassis number!)

The 2nd S2B I have came without body panels, as the PO wanted to keep a set of spares for his project. I managed to buy a set off eBay to complete my vehicle - so that is a vehicle that must have gone to the crusher.

Although the eBay vendor had just sold another complete S2B vehicle to someone in Bigga in NSW. Someone who has an 80" and a lightweight - the REMLR guys may know him.

Diana

[Bigbjorn]

Of the three we sold out of Truck and Bus, Brisbane, two went to bee keepers, one from near Grafton and the other I can't recall. The third went to a cattle station near Charters Towers. This one was fitted with smaller tyres, maybe 8.25 x 16 in lieu of 9.00 x 16 (could have the sizes wrong) at the buyers rquest as it was to operate in "basalt country". Why this terrain needed smaller tyres is a mystery to me.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

..... The third went to a cattle station near Charters Towers. This one was fitted with smaller tyres, maybe 8.25 x 16 in lieu of 9.00 x 16 (could have the sizes wrong) at the buyers request as it was to operate in "basalt country". Why this terrain needed smaller tyres is a mystery to me.
Thanks Brian

Do you know if the Leyland Truck and Bus books still exist? They would be a good addition to the Grenville Motors records currently held by Chris Baker (owner of R860138).

Regarding the 8.25 tyres - they would make the vehicle even slower. Yuk. But at least the size is still readily available, unlike the 9.00 variety.

I wonder if it was for sideways stability? The civvy F/Cs particularly the S2A had a bad reputation for that. The 3/4" reduction in axle height coupled with the wider track of the S2B would increase the stability quite a lot.

C Ya
Diana

[Lotz-A-Landies]

....There must be more than a handful still around tho...I'm guessing they are tucked away in sheds and the like

Will agree with you there, the one in Kangaroo Valley is hidden in a shed. Regarding keeping track of them, at present there are a number of individuals in Clubs identified a registrars but no National 109/110 Forward Control Register. Perhaps we can do something through AULRO.

In the mean time I have listed on the Info Thread the ones I am pretty confident still exist in Oz. We can make additions to the list as they come to light.

C ya
Diana

[Xtreme]

The 2nd S2B I have came without body panels, as the PO wanted to keep a set of spares for his project. I managed to buy a set off eBay to complete my vehicle - so that is a vehicle that must have gone to the crusher.

Although the eBay vendor had just sold another complete S2B vehicle to someone in Bigga in NSW. Someone who has an 80" and a lightweight - the REMLR guys may know him.

Diana

Or maybe you ended up buying the panels that the PO took off your 2nd S2B and eventually decided that he didn't need a spare set!

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Or maybe you ended up buying the panels that the PO took off your 2nd S2B and eventually decided that he didn't need a spare set!

Sounds feasible - but no. They are a slightly different colour and the same "panel" was left attached to both the firewall on the cab chassis and another on the eBay set. Plus I have a good relationship with with the vehicle PO.

Cheers
Diana

[master chief]

Hello all,there was one at bulga n.s.w.,it was a 2B,the bloke wouldnt sell it,passed away.FC scrapped!.another one was at a clearing sale in victoria was passed in and scrapped.also one two years ago at a clearing sale near Dubbo i think that sold not sure where it is now.:cool:
and that photo looks familliar of the one in the sawmill Diana,I took it,also saw the other one first hand but no photo,it was complete.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

... that photo looks familiar of the one in the sawmill Diana,I took it,also saw the other one first hand but no photo,it was complete.
Yes - the person who gave it to me was Hilton!

Do you want the print back?

Diana

[master chief]

No it,s ok Diana,just saved it of the pic you posted.;).might go and look for that chassis number now.

[bobslandies]

Here are some photos taken at the 1970 Waratah Festival in Sydney.
At the time Ted Briggs had a (then very modern) 2B Forward Control. The 88" Soft Top was owned by Ross Pratt.https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/12/104.jpg
This year was the Bicentenary of Captain Cook's discovery of the east coast. The Land Rover Owners Club Sydney Branch had a display where three vehicles were a-framed together and a banner slung between the front of the leading vehicle and the rear of the rear vehicle. I cannot remember the owner of the lead vehicle but the second (a 109 6 cyl with tropical roof) was owned by Dr Charles Warner. Don't know who owned the tailender but recognise a couple of the passengers in the back. The banner said "DISCOVER AUSTRALIA YOURSELF IN A LAND ROVER - JOIN THE LAND ROVER OWNERS CLUB - THE CLUB THAT GETS YOU THERE AND BACK" with a large map of members' trips above the centre vehicle.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/12/105.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/12/106.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/12/107.jpg
If I remember correctly in the next year Roy Sim made up a set of four eccentric wheels to run on a Land Rover keystone cops fashion! I think that may have been the last Waratah Festival - they went arty-farty after that trying to copy Adelaide.
After returning from the 1971 Centralian trip organised by the LROCV and seeing Vic Jaegar's FC mobile home (fitted with 6 cyl Weslake head engine and later with a Range Rover engine and transmission) I tried to buy Mackellar County Council's 2B when it was retired to do something similar. It had a pantech body with electrical testing equipment inside.
Bob

[hook]

Father in Law has A 2B Diesel (from mine in PNG)in his shed, North Arm QLD been trying to get it for the last 18 years.
Know of one, a 2A in a front yard in Amphitheatre VIC last year.
One 2B in Alice Springs About 5 yr ago.

[JDNSW]

Bit late noting this thread - it started while I was away over Christmas.

A couple of years ago Fred Smith in Melbourne had an ex-Malaysian military 2b in his shed for a customer, and I have an idea there was another FC there as well.

Twenty years ago I regularly saw a 2a FC in Collingwood driving in from Kew.

In the sixties I remember seeing a FC broken down by the roadside somewhere in the Alice Springs region - two weeks later it had been stripped to a bare chassis.

John

[tas101fc]

I have a CKD S11 A FC and it came into Aus with 3 others in the same container
and were assembled in Sydney at a Coach Builders where they had flat trays fitted. Factory 2.6 petrol 6cyl. :)

[Jeff]

I see one regularly on the Northern Beaches in white with T#%#^a axles and a rear tray that looks like a plumbers but too tidy and organised. I used to see it driving often but lately just sitting in the driveway.

Jeff

:rocket:

[tardis]

John, I have the one that Fred Smith was working on. It is the one that was Vic Jaeger's mobile home - his 'pantec'.

Julie

[Lotz-A-Landies]

John, I have the one that Fred Smith was working on. It is the one that was Vic Jaeger's mobile home - his 'pantec'.

Julie
Julie

That's great to hear it still exists - I remember being at one of the LROCV/LROCS/LROCN/LRCACT gymkana's at Gundagai when the film of that vehicle was shown.

Seem to remember it is an S2B with the first conversion to Rover P5 3 litre and subsequently to a Range Rover V8/LT95.

Can I ask about it's current configuration and for some pics? https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/09/1008.jpg

Diana

[tardis]

Diana - I don't get to log on too often and not too familiar with how to get around this site! But would be happy to get a picture to you and am keen to talk to you about it ... it now has a diesel engine in it but the dear old camper part is still pretty much as Vic made it and it is still on the road.

Julie

[mrapocalypse]

Sorry about thre vagueness but there was one in the backyard of a movie props guy in Rozelle Sydney, His place is oposite the fire station, you can see it from the back alley!

Also a guy up here in Brissy about ten years ago who had one done up to the max with a 4.4 lyland, 5 speed box and an amazing bit of coach built bodywork on the back. It was an awesome truck. I have a photo buried deep in my storage but I will try to dig it up!

is this the kind of info you are looking for?

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Any info is good - I think that we aready know about the one in Brissy but I'll need to do a drive over to Rozelle.

Diana

[101 Ron]

Is this one of the FCs you guys are disscussing.
Hennie Rautenbach's slideshow on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hennie_rautenbach/sets/72157594413271909/show/)

[isuzurover]

I only just saw this thread.

I have seen:
A IIA (I believe) at the 50th event organised by the LROCB at Mt Gravatt. It had a front (and possibly rear also) salisbury which had been custom-built by Mal Story (Maxi-Drive), and coils at the from. If I remember correctly it has a fibreglass camper body. May have a pic - will check.

A IIB parked at cannon hill shopping centre in Brisbane. Would have been mid-late 90's. Was in good condition, and seemed to be set up for touring.

Have spotted another 1 or two in Brisbane in addition to the above.

[abaddonxi]

Sorry about thre vagueness but there was one in the backyard of a movie props guy in Rozelle Sydney, His place is oposite the fire station, you can see it from the back alley!

Also a guy up here in Brissy about ten years ago who had one done up to the max with a 4.4 lyland, 5 speed box and an amazing bit of coach built bodywork on the back. It was an awesome truck. I have a photo buried deep in my storage but I will try to dig it up!

is this the kind of info you are looking for?

Do you know the name of the props guy? Quiggers or I would probably know who it is, the film industry isn't that large even after a couple of years off. Is the Rozelle FC the one with the terrible paintbrush finish? Saw that one once outside Reverse Garbage in Marrickville.

Also saw one two years ago parked in Canterbury/Campsie. I was driving around there a lot while my fil was in hospital, parked there for a month or so.

Cheers
Simon

[master chief]

Hello all,Diana,this is the 2B i rebuilt/renovated many years ago,its the one i sent the chassis number to you.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/03/680.jpg

[master chief]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/03/679.jpg

[master chief]

The good thing about the second photo is that it shows how the subframe was fitted.
this is it finished.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/03/678.jpg

[dandlandyman]

Am I seeing this right?
From the photos, it looks like that one had a narrow track Rover front axle, a la S2a FC. The lights and gearshift though say it's a 2b.

On a separate issue, is it true that you can't remove a 2b rear halfshaft with the wheel still in place, like you can with a Rover or Salisbury diff?

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Am I seeing this right?
From the photos, it looks like that one had a narrow track Rover front axle, a la S2a FC. The lights and gearshift though say it's a 2b.

On a separate issue, is it true that you can't remove a 2b rear halfshaft with the wheel still in place, like you can with a Rover or Salisbury diff?
Dan

I think you may be onto something, although my screen resolution are not sufficient to confirm your theory.

The vehicle is a S2B, you can tell that by the underslung rear axle. The gear shift and the lights are just confirmation. However it could be a Rover front end. I have a vehicle in my back yard with this exact problem, although I have a correct S2b ENV assembly to replace it before sale.

Regarding the rear axles. Yes the ENV diff splines are too large to slide through the hole in the stub axle. So you have to remove the stub axle to replace a halfshaft. My guess this is why they opted for the Salisbury at the end of S2a normal control production instead of continuing with the ENV which had been optional since Series 2.

If you know of anyone looking for S2a width ENV rear halfshafts I have a couple of pairs which are available.

Diana

[master chief]

Am I seeing this right?
From the photos, it looks like that one had a narrow track Rover front axle, a la S2a FC. The lights and gearshift though say it's a 2b.

On a separate issue, is it true that you can't remove a 2b rear halfshaft with the wheel still in place, like you can with a Rover or Salisbury diff?

Hello all,if your talking about my old one,then it definently has the wide track ENV not a Rover diff,i know this cause i rebuilt the front diff assy and we had to make the axles for it.

[mrapocalypse]

I like this thread. I think FC landies are really cool!

Don't know why, ugliest vehicles on the road.... always had a fascination for them though!

2a and 2b look like such classic old English Lorries!

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I like this thread. I think FC landies are really cool!

Don't know why, ugliest vehicles on the road.... always had a fascination for them though!

2a and 2b look like such classic old English Lorries!
Yup, have to agree with that sentiment.

Not even as easy to work on as old English lorries and fall over pretty much as often as the Defenders and Discos do these days.

Diana

[mrapocalypse]

trying to think of the Props guy in Sydney, he had a blonde beard and he had an old blue 2 door Rangey parked on the street for years. Someone smashed into it and he just let it sit there rotting! he was more up towards the cat and fiddle end of Balmain/Rozelle.

He had a warehouse in Rozelle full of movie stuff too. The old guy who ran the junk shop across the road from the Sackville hotel would have knwon him but this is seriously going back to about 1998.

The FC was still in baby Cack yellow, not hand painted, it was in the back yard under piles of timber and junk. You really had to want to see it to know it was there.

try the lanes behind hampton, Birchgrove streets and king lane. there's a six foot corrugated iron fence with a dirty big landy in there. The house runs between darling Street and the lane. Not sure if it's a dead end but it was hard to find even as a local!

Good Luck.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/03/596.jpg

[dandlandyman]

I meant no disrespect to your land rover skills, masterchief. Quite the opposite - it's an awesome looking truck. I'm just too much of a nitpicker sometimes.
Diana, I actually would like to have a spare set to suit the 2b - are they at all prone to breaking? Or needn't I worry? My parts shopping list is so extensive that I may have to find a whole wreck, preferably in the NT. I know, that'll be in the aisle between the hen's teeth and the rocking horse manure.
Still, I live in hope...

[master chief]

I meant no disrespect to your land rover skills, masterchief. Quite the opposite - it's an awesome looking truck. I'm just too much of a nitpicker sometimes.
Diana, I actually would like to have a spare set to suit the 2b - are they at all prone to breaking? Or needn't I worry? My parts shopping list is so extensive that I may have to find a whole wreck, preferably in the NT. I know, that'll be in the aisle between the hen's teeth and the rocking horse manure.
Still, I live in hope...

None taken,i think the thing that might be throwing you is that they arent F/C rims so the track looks narrower and is narrower than it should.due to the rims.:D

[Lotz-A-Landies]

...
...Diana, I actually would like to have a spare set to suit the 2b - are they at all prone to breaking? Or needn't I worry? ...
The hens teeth comment was pretty much on the ball for the S2B halfshafts, the only spares I have are S2a ENV.

The yokes and the Spicer joint on the front halfshafts are prone to failure. Particularly a problem these days as you cant get Spicer joints without the grease pathways.

Now if you are interested, I had Mal Story of Maxi-Drive make up a set of halfshafts in S2B size. I had to send him the S2A axles, and an ENV diff hemisphere side gear for the prototype to be completed. The successor company Hi-Tough Engineering also of Carrera in Qld should have the designs and brooches to cut the splines, so should be able to make them up for you. For the front they are specials with hybridised halfshafts that go from the ENV diff to Stage 1 swivels and CV joints.

Hope this helps.
Diana

[dandlandyman]

It wasn't the track that threw me. It just looks like it had the stiffener bar under the front diff like late normal control 2As have. My 68 2b doesn't have it. Of course Land Rover were quite proficient at running mods throughout production.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

It wasn't the track that threw me. It just looks like it had the stiffener bar under the front diff like late normal control 2As have. My 68 2b doesn't have it. Of course Land Rover were quite proficient at running mods throughout production.
Dan

You are spot on there about the reinforcings on the front axles, neither of my 1968 models have it (January 33100095a and June 33100161b) and the December 1967 has (had*) the wrong front end. What is interesting is that the VIN of the vehicle in the pic is 33100507e which makes it the 17th last export 2b made and it is likely that one of the suffix letters "C" through "E" equates to the modification of the front (and rear) axle assembly.

In fact, for the restoration of the correct front end to the 33100105a vehicle I acquired a pair of axle housings from Master Chief's dad, the front of which had a 6260**** serial number (where it should have had 3260**** for RHD 6cyl S2B ) and the reinforcings on both front and rear housings.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/03/580.jpg

* No need to guess which housing I am keeping for my camper project vehicle. Which is O.K. the axle assembly that the Dec '67 vehicle is getting comes from a vehicle with a VIN 10 numbers earlier and left the factory 28 days later in Jan '68.

Diana

[dandlandyman]

New issue, but I wasn't sure it was extensive enough for a new thread.
I heard a little while ago that the ABC's Dr Karl (no, I'm not going to try to spell his surname from memory) either test drove or owned a Series 2 Forward Control some decades ago.
And this made me remember seeing either a photo or some footage of an FC on expedition in the desert.
Maybe a good new thread would be some archival stuff of these. Anyone?

[bobslandies]

New issue, but I wasn't sure it was extensive enough for a new thread.
I heard a little while ago that the ABC's Dr Karl (no, I'm not going to try to spell his surname from memory) either test drove or owned a Series 2 Forward Control some decades ago.
And this made me remember seeing either a photo or some footage of an FC on expedition in the desert.
Maybe a good new thread would be some archival stuff of these. Anyone?

Great idea for some more archival material!

Dr Karl
I don't remember Dr Karl Kruszelnicki having a FC but he certainly had a Volvo C304 for many years, set up as a motorhome and toured in that.
If you want to read some very interesting stuff on the modifications he carried out you can look here:
Karl Trek ® Archive (http://www.abc.net.au/science/k2/trek/default.htm)
Heaps of reading - click on the subjects for heaps of information -and he knows what he is talking about!

If you are unfamiliar with the Volvo Fcs look here:
Volvo C303 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_C303)
Volvo C303 4x4's. From Vince Sweeney of Real 4x4's LLC. (http://www.real4x4.com/Volvo303.shtml)
Links und Adressen für den Volvo C303 (http://www.c303.de/c303-de/c303-ressources.htm)

Bob

[101 Ron]

A FC did a trip about 30 years ago from western QLD to Alice Springs via the Plenty HWY when it was a real adventure to do so.
The story was written up in Overlander magazine......was that Dr Karl?

[dandlandyman]

It may have been. Anyone got a spare copy? Even photocopy the specific pages just so I can read them and put them in my FC file?
Also, the copy of the FC parts manual I borrowed from my friend in Katherine was damaged in the '98 floods. Most of the first half dozen or so pages were terminally damaged, and therefore it's missing a lot of the chassis, engine, trans, axle prefix number info. I think it was a 1966edition (again the information lost) but the info in the 1972 edition would apply. Could anyone help?

[Lotz-A-Landies]

It may have been. Anyone got a spare copy? Even photocopy the specific pages just so I can read them and put them in my FC file?
Also, the copy of the FC parts manual I borrowed from my friend in Katherine was damaged in the '98 floods. Most of the first half dozen or so pages were terminally damaged, and therefore it's missing a lot of the chassis, engine, trans, axle prefix number info. I think it was a 1966edition (again the information lost) but the info in the 1972 edition would apply. Could anyone help?
Dan

I have both the 1972 (looseleaf) and the 1966 bound copy of the Forward Control Parts Manuals.

I keep finding lots of differences between both books, particularly with parts numbers.

Tell me what is the first page you have that is good and I can copy the ones before it.

PM me with your address email or physical and I can snail mail them or can send JPEG's which may be quite large.

Diana

[easo]

FC's at Cooma 98. Sorry about the poor pic as its a scan. Look at the two bottom FCs.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/06/553.jpg

[dandlandyman]

Very nice. The white 2a looks similar to the Glover Webb and Liversidge camper. According to LRE July 2002, it's currently in Australia somewhere...
For me, though, the dual cab 2b looks the best.

[easo]

Both look the same to me, what are the diferences between 2A and 2B?

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Both look the same to me, what are the diferences between 2A and 2B?
Easo

The S2a have a chassis virtually identically to the 2a Australian military chassis (in fact it is probably the other way around) and use standard axle assemblies, then later standard width with ENV diffs. They also have a complicated gear shift mechanism.

The S2b are 3/4" longer wheelbase (called 110 instead of 109) the axle assemblies are 4" wider (virtually the same as the Defender/County width) and the rear axle assembly is under-slung instead of the regular overslung style. There is a sway bar on the front axle and the spring mounts are set wider on the rear axle, so much so that they had to modify the rims by outsetting about 3/4" to allow for wheel chains to clear the springs. They have a simple replicator system on the gear change mechanism running above the engine.

The easiest way to tell the difference is that the S2a has the headlamps between the blinker and side lamps, where the S2b has the headlamps below the line of the blinkers and side lamps.

Does that clarify it for you?

Addit: Great pics by the way, and I also like the dual cab over that camper style. My plans for the project vehicle, are something in between, but probably with the wheelbase coming out to 130".

Diana

[mrapocalypse]

How much work went into that hard top 101!

Someone loves their Landy!

[abaddonxi]

Saw a lovely one on Ernest Street Crows Nest today. No camera, so it didn't happen.

Cheers
Simon

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Saw a lovely one on Ernest Street Crows Nest today. No camera, so it didn't happen.

Cheers
Simon
Yup it didn't happen, but if your fantasy was real would it have been a 109" and 110" or a 101"?

Other details of your dream would also be nice.

Diana :)

[abaddonxi]

It was green.

[abaddonxi]

Two doors, tray back. The paint looked very clean and fresh.

Cheers
Simon

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Two doors, tray back. The paint looked very clean and fresh.

Cheers
Simon
109" =
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/02/228.jpg

110" =
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/10/1125.jpg

101" (Ron 101s) =
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/04/523.jpg

[dandlandyman]

Caption for the photo of Ron's 101: "Always carry a spare."

Seriously, though. It's a pity I can't come to Cooma and see all this 'exotic' fare come out of the woodwork. I look forward to the photos here after.

[50LRO]

Here are some beasts I've come across or owned. I know of at least 12 in S.E. Queensland.

Before
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/527.jpg

Now
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/528.jpg

Working
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/529.jpg

Hunting
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/530.jpg

Gathering
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/531.jpg

6.2 GMC powered
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/532.jpg

Spotted
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/10/421.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/533.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/534.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/09/535.jpg




50LRO

[Mick-Kelly]

There is also a 2A or B in a certain very big shed in Tewksbury Tas.

[JamesB]

I just spotted a foward control landy in Yeppoon , up on Meikleville Hill just down the road from where I live. Not sure what model it is exactly but it's not a 101. What do i look for to identify the beast ? Seems to be in not to bad nic as well.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

... What do i look for to identify the beast ? Seems to be in not to bad nic as well.
If you can get close to the vehicle, the rear axle on a SIIB is underslung and it has a anti sway bar on the front axle.

From a distance (provided the front has not been changed) The SIIA has headlamps at middle height of the front panel and the side and flasher lamps in the 4 corners. (The track is the same as the Series II/IIA and Series III normal control)
The SIIB has headlamps at the bottom 1/3 height of the front panel and the side and flasher lamps above each other in the top corners. (The track is 4" wider same as Defender/RRC)

Most of the pics above are SIIB

[rovercare]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/10/421.jpg






50LRO

I seen this dude, at the very first Easternats at Sandown, was the year after they held it at Hazelwood pondage when it was called off on the Sunday because of rain:(

I was about 13:eek:

[JamesB]

Had another look over the FC at yeppoon , it has an under slung rear diff and the head lights are towards the bottom of the front panel so that makes it a S11B. Learn something new every day :)

[101RRS]

If it is a good looking truck it is a 101 - if it is ugly as sin it is a series 2 fc:twisted:

Garry

[Mick-Kelly]

Had another look over the FC at yeppoon , it has an under slung rear diff and the head lights are towards the bottom of the front panel so that makes it a S11B. Learn something new every day :)

What is the owner doing with it? Is it potentially for sale.

[JamesB]

Don't know if its for sale Mick. It's parked outside a holiday house and nobody has been around to ask. If I see someone there I'll ask the question.

[mcrover]

It's been a while but Im pretty sure there is a S11a/b in Taylors yard in Bonniedoon in Vic, he rarely gets rid of anything so if it was one then it would probably still be there.

It was sitting next to 2 Kombies and an old Nissan patrol (the original ones) behind the main workshop.

There is a member on here from up that way, "Bruce" I think is his name, maybe he can confirm if it is one or is still there.

[tacr2man]

Hi, I know of three FC in W.A. as I owned and then sold them before returning to UK in 2002 where I live now.
1. S2a 109 4cyl , found on farm took 5 years to get and stripped down to restore, sold to british vehicle enthusiast living in Capel W.A. IIRC
2. S2b 110 no eng, fitted with chyrsler hemi and delivered to Sandstone W.A. to be finished as camper , no tray as bought no3

3. S2b 110 6cyl with trayback sold to Perth LRparts dealer as returning to UK licenced good runner I used as bushfire truck with 1500ltr tank and 9hp twin impellor pump and watercannon.

[fclandy]

I know of two at least:

Somewhere late 90's I bought a 2a cab chassis in need of much TLC from Anthony Maeder up Ballarat way just before he moved to Qld. Didn't really get much done, then it sat in Fred Smiths yard for a bit, as I was looking for an Isuzu 3.9 to put in it. Fred found one - already under another 2a FC - '67, with a camper body. I bought that, and sold the first one to a guy up Mt Dandenong somewhere - Andrew something I think, who did some work on it, but put it up for sale again as a project a little later.

The one with the camper body was built by Tony Brewis (LROCV) in 1979 inspired by Vic Jaegers. After some use by his family it was sold to Don McGillivray (also LROCV) who changed it to suit a couple, and had the 3.9 put under it. It was in this condition that it appeared at Cooma 98 (as per the piccy someone posted earlier. After we got it, Fred did a bit of work for us and we took it around Tassie for 10 days with 2 adults and 2 toddlers. By the time we got back the list of changes to the interior was very long, so we completely stripped it and had it professionally redone. It's got an LT95 box, and Disco steel rims with 50mm offset - helps nicely with the stability.

Apart from the Cooma photo, I think it also appeared on Lloyd Allisons Land Rover pages, and I lent it for use as a support vehicle for a cross-Australia bike ride (Perth-Melbourne) for charity Second Bite earlier this year.

I'm (reluctantly) selling it - posted under both Vehicles and Camping as I wasn't sure what section fitted best.

LROCV also has an FC register, but not sure how many are on it. Registrar is Eric Shingles in Gippsland (maybe the owner of the one people have spotted down that way?).

Somewhere I've probably still got the chassis no. of the one I sold, and of course can grab the no of the camper.

[hook]

Just remembered, seen one last year (IIA-B) can't remember now, have to find the photo.

It was in Moama NSW just north of Echuca VIC

Full hard top with seats in the back (left to right)
Had done a lot of touring in the NT.

[Datt]

Had another look over the FC at yeppoon , it has an under slung rear diff and the head lights are towards the bottom of the front panel so that makes it a S11B. Learn something new every day :)

I think I saw this one when I was up that way visiting a mate a couple of weeks ago. It was at Meikleville Hill, is that the same one?

[cmurray]

LROCV also has an FC register, but not sure how many are on it. Registrar is Eric Shingles in Gippsland (maybe the owner of the one people have spotted down that way?).


Eric lives in Bona Vista (Posh part of Warragul) and has a few forward controls. He has a 2B that he restored 20 odd years ago. He has a 101 and a couple of unrestored 2A and 2B's amongst his collection of Landies.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Eric lives in Bona Vista (Posh part of Warragul) and has a few forward controls. He has a 2B that he restored 20 odd years ago. He has a 101 and a couple of unrestored 2A and 2B's amongst his collection of Landies.He wouldn't happen to have a spare SIIB front RHS halfshaft would he.

Diana

[Phil4280]

Hi there!
Well looks like this thread need some new life to it so here I go...

I currently own 2 2B forwardcontrols.

*ADR plated Aug73. I purchased in Jan 1991 from a dealer in Melb that said it came from the ACT. 1 interesting point with this 1 is that it was painted in the ser3 magenda gold colour or what ever you call it. This was the orriginal colour as far as I can see. It had a 2.6 motor in it and a std series gearbox and t/fer not the 1ton/FC one. But it had the 11" hand brake.
I later fitted a Ford 250 cast iron head xflow out of a "F" series coupled to a C4 auto through a Marks addapter to a std series t/fer. I had to go this way due to an army injury so I could drive it.
In 1994 I aquired a proto type tray from a 6x6 perentie from Land Vehicle Spares whis I fitted to it.

*The 2nd 1 I purchased in 1997 is a circa 1968 model from a guy north of Townsville who use to use it as a supply truck in the Weipa area. He had started to rebuild it but ran out of interest. It was fitted with a Ford 4.1 aloy head xflow coupled to the FC gearbox and t/fer. It was well used condition but did have the luxuary cab lineing kit so that will probly end up in the other one. I do have some plans for this one but thats for another time.

I will post their chassie numbers when i next get a chance.

Attached is a photo of my 1st FC before I started work on it.

Phil...

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Hi there!
Well looks like this thread need some new life to it so here I go...

I currently own 2 2B forwardcontrols.

*ADR plated Aug73. I purchased in Jan 1991 from a dealer in Melb that said it came from the ACT. ..I think that I know one of the previous owners of that one! At least he lives in Canberra and says that he used to have a SIIB F/C in camino gold, my guess that it's about as close as you could get to a PO unless it was a Leighton fleet truck or something.

Diana

[stan bruce]

i have two 11bs one i got in 2008 has a ford 250 motor power steering a really well engineered vehical it was originaly a garbage truck in the snowys, the other i got 5 years ago in bega rough but with a holden engine it is not a goer but when i get time,

[Stormy]

Hello all, an old army mate directed me to this site, cause he knows I own a 2B. I bought it in 1982 and did a lot of research into the F/C. I was told that about 1400 of both models came into Australia. When Eric was setting up the register he rang and said Rover Australia only had record of 13 2Bs coming into Australia!!! I said to him we could probably come up with more from what we knew then, and it turned out that way. the 1400 figure is probably near the truth. The trucks that Eric and I have are "sisters" in that they were part of a batch of 6 bought by the Australian Pipelines Commission and were used in the construction of the first pipeline from Longford ( Gas Plant) to Melbourne. The vehicles had welders on them and were hopelessly overloaded. The gross mass was about 5 tons! They regulary split wheel rims and bent axle housings and were traded in on IH D1310 4X4s in 1971. We managed to track 5 of the 6 after they were disposed of by the APL. 1 or 2 went to a drilling coy, Vic Jaeger built the camper on another Eric ended up with another 1was wrecked for parts in the 70s (managed to find out the eng. no.) and I ended up with 1. There was a strong suspicion thet the APL had 4 to 6 more but no one could come up with anything solid. There is one important feature that distinguishes the APL vehicles and that is the top chassis (the "C" shaped member) was CUT OFF just behind the cabin! A new section was welded in to replace it. I was told by the foreman at Woods & Reeves who traded the 2Bs in that the apprentice ( at APL ) was told to cut the welders off, so he did, complete with part of the Landies chassis. If anyone has an example like this then it would fill in a gap or two. I found another 2B in Gippsland that had the same injury, but the owner was adament that it belonged to National mapping and was bought new, but info collected indicated they had 2 or 3 2Bs so there is a chance that they were a used purchace. The cooma Rubbish truck was bought new in 1972 or 3 by that company.There were quite a few more (about 10 I think in Vic and just over border) in private hands when Eric started the register. Someone also said about 20 or so that came to OZ were re -exported as aid to Asian countries. There are a few 2As around as well Eric has 2 and my neighbour's brother in law has another. There was another that was brought in from Malaya by a RAAFie when he came home. It was used by the Malysian army. It had a hydraulic winch fitted and was owned by a Ray Layity and he sold it through a car dealer, at Bairnsdale, to someone in Melbourne. The cabin roof had a cupola hatch over the passenger seat. The APL vehicles were supposed to have been purchased at ULR in Melbourne. Well I hope this is of some interest regards John

[Red Rocket]

As you seem to be recording all the FC's, I had better tell you about the one I had.
It was a 2B. I got it off two young L-R addicts in Cairns in 1976. I swapped a 109 for it and some dollars. The tray was stuffed and I found the rear axle housing was bent. (ENV) I pressed it straight and reinforced it. Never had any more problems there. I cut the roof in half and extended it and added the back of a standard trayback cab, seatbox and doors. The pillars out of a wagon were used to hang the rear doors. It had the 6cyl engine and I made a custom exhaust manifold for the pipe to go straight back. I used it for a few years running safaris on Cape York, The Kimberley and Central Australia. It seated two in the back and 3 in front. (In comfort) The biggest problem I had with it was the Swivel pin housing flanges and the flange on the end of the diff housing that mates with it. They continually tore apart in isolated places! I eventually solved the problem by making the flanges on the diff housings 1" thick and using series III swivel housings and stubs. I discarded the standard gearchange and fitted a "waggle" change between the driver's and middle passenger's seat. All the positions were reversed but it worked perfectly without any problems.It used heaps of oil till I fitted a sIII
oil cooler. Then it didn't use any. It was a fantastic climber when there were five of us on board.

It broke the uni joint yoke on the front half-shaft crossing a river in the Kimberley, but that was the only one.
I lost faith in it in 1978 when teeth broke off the low range gear in the Simpson Desert while crossing dunes, about where Madigan went across.
We limped out up the dune corridor, fixed it with new parts from ULR. in a bush camp, and, after I finished the season, sold it to a bloke in Alice Springs who came across to the Qld coast to pick it up. Originally, I fitted a thomas winch in the middle of the chassis under the tray
with fairleads front and rear. The winch had a major hernia, stripping the worm-wheel on the north side of the Jardine ford in the Melaleuca swamp.
I replaced it with a Braden winch from a Dodge Weapons carrier. No more problems. That vehicle went places you could only dream of now.
I replaced it with a 101" Chev Blitz station Wagon. Can't tell you where it is now.
I'd post some images but I don't know how to do it here.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Hello all, an old army mate directed me to this site, cause he knows I own a 2B. I bought it in 1982 and did a lot of research into the F/C. I was told that about 1400 of both models came into Australia. ...Thanks John

Vic Jaeger's SIIB is currently owned by a member on this forum - Oliver1981.

SIIB were not built CKD here and going by chassis numbers of those in existence and the Grenville Motors books there are only about 500 SIIB export market 6cyl and neither the diesel nor the 4 cyl petrol were very popular here so it is likely that only a dozen or so came to each of the state distributors and best guestimate probably less than 100 in total came to Australia. I have the complete vehicles or remnants of 3 only one distributed via Regents in Melbourne.

The top chassis rail cut off behind the cab was a variant built by Land Rover in the U.K. and all mine have this, although they all seem to have been cut back again looking at the cuts themselves. See graphic and bottom right vehicle.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/08/828.jpg

Diana

[Stormy]

Hi all again, and thasnks to Diana & the rocket for the info.I really wasn't collecting or recording, all that was done long ago 1989 I think. Eric was establishing the register and I gave him some info collected via some phone calls. I wonder Di if the channel section that was welded back in was the same as the original or was it much heavier. Mine was and it was welded to the standoffs from the lower chassis. aif the vehicle was supplied without the top rail I guess the tray builder did the work.I knew of one 2B in Melb. whose number was 411A and the APL were a sprinkling from just under 100 to about 140. The one I have is 138A and the engine from the wrecked one was 2 numbers below mine so its VIN should have been faily close.The one I have was a 2.6, but it was soon replaced with a 4.4 Leyland and early Rangie transmission. The cab was extended into a dualcab by using a wagon body, very like Rover did with the 110 130. I used the panelvan type tailgates to allow access to the tray from the cab. XD Ford type seats, tripple core crossflow radiator and a moded Ser3 landie 6 cyl type brake pedal box and booster with tandem master cyl. Does anyone know of a power steering box thatwill fit without a lot of fuss? The 4400 has been in there for 26 years and has been trouble free in all that time, and nice low noise level in the cab too. I always hate doing anything to the brakes as they can be a pig to bleed. the V8 gives half the distance again for the same amount of fuel as the 6. About 15mpg in the old language, not too bad for 2 1/4 tonnes. I don't remember too many 4 cyl 2bs even in the UK, I'll check the parts book and see if there are any clues there. The Spaniards had a 6cyl version of the 2.25 l four, would have went like a rocket with the good breathing setup. Not far off the 3.5 in Capacity either. It would have made more sense in the F/Cs i think, a diesel version even better??Anyway enough for now thanks again regards John

[123rover50]

Going through old books last night, found the no,s of the FC I bought back from PNG. I found it in 1972 and it had been there a while.
The plate and chassis no 30100065B
Engine no [6 cyl] 30000270A
Gearbox 25211933C
Front axle [Rover] 28601023A
Rear axle [E.N.V.] 30000012A.
After using it here for a while the chassis rusted out so I mounted the subframe on a normal control chassis and sold it with the firewall when I was on the Sunshine coast The original axles etc went with it.
Picture shows the cut off leg I kept off the rusty chassis.I cant remember who I sold it to but If he wants to weld the matching no on he can have it. No 30100065B
Photos of the FC in P.N.G. can be seen in my introduction posts.

Didiman

[123rover50]

Found this hiding in the pages, I have no idea where it came from but if anyone has the matching chassis number, post a photo of the truck and spring hanger and they can have the plate.

Cheers Didiman.

[charlesdillon]

There was another that was brought in from Malaya by a RAAFie when he came home. It was used by the Malysian army. It had a hydraulic winch fitted and was owned by a Ray Layity and he sold it through a car dealer, at Bairnsdale, to someone in Melbourne. The cabin roof had a cupola hatch over the passenger seat. The APL vehicles were supposed to have been purchased at ULR in Melbourne. Well I hope this is of some interest regards John

I've never posted anthing before so I hope I've done this right! My apologies if i've stuffed up!:wasntme:
I bought that one from an auction house in Frankston Victoria in the late eighties, early nineties. It had been passed in at the auction, so I bought it a week or so later. I used it as my daily drive in Melbourne for a number of years, did a lot of work restoring it and had it in a number of films. It now resides in the country, retired, where it is lucky to do 300ks a year!

It's still alive and well.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Charles

You'll have to post us some piccys, even if it only does 300Km per year it's still not alive, well and in the hands of an enthusiast.

Diana :)

[dandlandyman]

The sub-chassis in mine (33100143A) has been cut off behind the cab, but they've made a real hatchet job of it so as to fit an incredibly heavy steel tray from an old Austin truck or something. I intend to get rid of all that and try to replicate the original subframe, unless of course I can find another dead 2B with a good frame. Does anyone know if the frame from a 2A FC is the same? It broadens my options slightly...:p There are, however, many more bits I'll need before it ever goes back on the road, but it drives and stops so I'm on my way...

Dan.
69 2A 88" pet4, 68 2B FC pet6.

[123rover50]

Thought I would post a pic.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

The sub-chassis in mine (33100143A) has been cut off behind the cab,

<snip>

Does anyone know if the frame from a 2A FC is the same?
Dan

Sorry for coming in on your post so late, somehow overlooked your question.

It seems that a lot of the SIIB came out here without the top rail extending past the gear selector on top on the bellhousing. This was an option in the SIIB sales brochure (9) and it seems most of them that came here only had the stirrup mounts for an aftermarket tray.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/08/828.jpg

I have 3 X 3310 prefix vehicles/chassis' and none of them have the upper rail but all of them have different styles of cut at the back of the cab.

BTW just in case people haven't seen my latest SIIB acquisition! Ex-SADF 3320 prefix South African build.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/06/754.jpg

[101RRS]

BTW just in case people haven't seen my latest SIIB acquisition! Ex-SADF 3320 prefix South African build.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/06/754.jpg

More money than sense :cool:. Another motel on wheels - have you outdone Oliver 81?

Garry

[Lotz-A-Landies]

More money than sense :cool:. Another motel on wheels - have you outdone Oliver 81?

GarryMoney? Who's got some money!

I bought it because it will save me having to build a camper body on one of my other ones and because of it's genuine military heritage.

Oliver's is probably more usable, although I haven't decided which way to proceed as I still have all the transmission and 4.6 V8 engine items I had acquired for my planned project.

I am considering still building one up as a plaything. Whether it's Gog, Captain Pneumo or Cardwell the rolling chassis.

[iain reed]

it is a beautiful thing !!! good luck with that one hows the plan going for the semi trailer car carrier going? or are you just going to clone yourself? well done good score :):):)

[Lotz-A-Landies]

it is a beautiful thing !!! good luck with that one hows the plan going for the semi trailer car carrier going? or are you just going to clone yourself? well done good score :):):)I'm waiting for the B triple regulations to come in, although tonight I was passed by a double that had a 40' box on the A trailer as well as one on the B.

For 2011 Corowa we are recruiting a team of Civvy LR enthusiasts to come for a few days and drive one of our mil vehicles to get there.

Plans are in place to carry an 80" or lightweight on the tray of Wazza the Mk3 and maybe a SIII on the bridging trailer behind. Then Gog can come along with a No.5 and you may have to bring the workshop trailer. Then Hilton and I can share the driving between Wazza and Gog and not run into trouble with the drivers log book.

Not sure which will be the rest time, that spent driving Gog or that spent in Wazza.

For those who want to see the toils of getting Gog up from Tassie see: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/remlr-discoveries/90673-sadf-radio-relay-truck-gog-3.html#post1121088

[Disco44]

In my time at Leyland & Truck & Bus Brisbane, we sold, from memory, only three 110/FC/6cyl. cab and chassis. I assume they were 2B's. They were the last in stock at Pressed Metal, Enfield. This would have been 1973-74, boom times, when we could sell any LR we could get.

Geez you are now aging yourself.Leyland at Wacol ( now volvo ) quite a few years ago hey Mate.
Cheers,
John.

[rovey]

gday, replying to your request about fcs.I have rebuilt one recently. It took 5 years and its in bits again getting a stronger gearbox.Its a 1966 fc iia with both env diffs, a late export 6 cylinder model which i made into a camper body. I am in the sunshine coast landrover owners club of which two other members have a iib model, a six wheeler perenty variant camper , another member has an ex military test iia early model fc. Also close bye at a place called North arm a resident uses dailey a grey fc iib trayback , its in excellent condition. If you nead any other details let me know, IAN.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

gday, replying to your request about fcs.I have rebuilt one recently....<snip>
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/03/451.jpg

[50LRO]

seeing that this tread hasn't seen any action lately, I thought I'd share these two photos I took on Saturday. I'll have to go back with some tools to do some stripping of parts I'm missing. It is very original, but very sad too.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/11/292.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/11/293.jpg

cheers Taz

[wagoo]

Please check my post about a rare Sth AFrican 2B on the REMLR FireFly thread.
Wagoo.

[isuzurover]

seeing that this tread hasn't seen any action lately, I thought I'd share these two photos I took on Saturday. I'll have to go back with some tools to do some stripping of parts I'm missing. It is very original, but very sad too.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/11/292.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/11/293.jpg

cheers Taz

Where is it and is it for sale? I have been looking for a series II FC project for a while. Doesn't need to be complete or original (will be fitting an ISUZU etc...).

[123rover50]

Where is it and is it for sale? I have been looking for a series II FC project for a while. Doesn't need to be complete or original (will be fitting an ISUZU etc...).

Buy my rolling chassis and bits in markets.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Buy my rolling chassis and bits in markets.It's a nice looking rolling chassis, I have been thinking it would make a better project than at least 2 of my vehicles/rolling chassis as it has the complete upper chassis and doesn't need the rear cross member replaced.

[123rover50]

I have just found a box of photos I thought were lost.https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/05/1500.jpg

[123rover50]

Another one seen at Conondale Gymkana.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/11/1382.jpg

[Lostkiwi]

There's a 2b over here on Norfolk Island which apparently came out of Aussie
Will try and get a few pic's and the chassis number if anybody is interested?
Ive been told to take it away but it's pretty rusty:( Still some good body panels if anyone is looking for something in particular.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

There's a 2b over here on Norfolk Island which apparently came out of Aussie
Will try and get a few pic's and the chassis number if anybody is interested?
Ive been told to take it away but it's pretty rusty:( Still some good body panels if anyone is looking for something in particular.The number will be on the front RHS spring hanger. The door bottoms are the important ones to salvage and probably the front panels.

Also of interest would be the anti roll bar and connections on the front axle.

[oliver1981]

look forward to some pics.

I may be interested in some bits and pieces!

Thanks

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Perhaps we should bring lots of the vehicle over in a container. The gear lever mechanism, the steering column, speedo, 2 Bravo could use the engine cover, the helical box, the 6.5" rims.

[Lostkiwi]

Well you wouldn't read about it!!!
Went and had a look at the Forward control today First time in about three months
Last time i looked it was complete.[It's been there 15 years] This time someone has been Thru and taken a number of parts off it:mad::mad:
The things that were missing are the main plate off the fire wall which contain the chassis number etc!!
They have also taken the steering wheel ,instrument panel, door handles and front grill:mad:
So at this stage i have no idea on it's age or were it's come from:(

Here's a few pic's anyway As you can see the chassie is pretty rotten!! so no chance of finding a number there!
If there's anything you can see that you may want PM me
and we will go from there.The guy who own's it has said to me a number of times to take it!! Wish i had six months ago:(
35496

35497

35499

35503

[juddy]

I have just found a box of photos I thought were lost.https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/05/1500.jpg

Is this crewcab still around????

[fc110]

Just wanted to record 2 2A FCs that NO longer exist (wrecked).
28700139a & 30100048b. One of these had a 186, autotrans with broken TFcase input shaft, broken rear diff & body panels mostly made out of aluminium road signs, like "road narrows" etc.

[mrapocalypse]

Another one seen at Conondale Gymkana.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/11/1382.jpg

That is the one I looked at in Brisbane in about 1991. With a Leyland 4.4l.

Awesome.

Wonder what happened to it?

[stan bruce]

i have two s11b,s 33100167b and 33100434d the latter is half way through a full restoration.
stan bruce sydney.

[Mick_Marsh]

another member has an ex military test iia early model fc.
Thanks Ian.
I'd be interested in a photo of the ADF one. I saw one of these up at Dookie last year.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/06/1482.jpg

[Landy Smurf]

NM

That seems to be the general story, someone used to know of one somewhere.

This pic was given to me a while ago - in a saw-mill somewhere near Narrabri in the 1990's.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/11/267.jpg
(Addit: If this were a Hollywood movie, I would be able to get the computer to pan around the other side and zoom to read the chassis number!)

The 2nd S2B I have came without body panels, as the PO wanted to keep a set of spares for his project. I managed to buy a set off eBay to complete my vehicle - so that is a vehicle that must have gone to the crusher.

Although the eBay vendor had just sold another complete S2B vehicle to someone in Bigga in NSW. Someone who has an 80" and a lightweight - the REMLR guys may know him.

Diana

Do you still have the picture of the one in the sawmill near Narrabri?

[juddy]

Wheres the port of Vic one gone to?

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Do you still have the picture of the one in the sawmill near Narrabri?I try not to dispose of anything

No idea about the one from the port of Melbourne. I understand the body for the Essendon airport one is sitting on drums in the Yorke Peninsula South Oz.

[Ima traveller2]

Here is one that U might not no about.
https://www.facebook.com/Safarimanbookone

[Mick_Marsh]

Here is one that U might not no about.
https://www.facebook.com/Safarimanbookone
I reckon we might know that fellow.

[123rover50]

This one turned up yesterday.
Is it on the list.?
33100505E
URL=http://s939.photobucket.com/user/123rover50/media/Forward%20Control/new%202B_zps4cup7tth.jpg.html]https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/02/569.jpg[/URL]

Keith

[67hardtop]

I was picking up some parts from a man in towong vic the other day, he had a 2a fc and 2x2b fc's there. Projects he said. Pm me for his details he may want to sell. Hes got heaps of s1 2 2a 3 and rangies and discos there too.

Cheers Rod

Sent from my GT-P5110 using AULRO mobile app

[John H]

I try not to dispose of anything

No idea about the one from the port of Melbourne. I understand the body for the Essendon airport one is sitting on drums in the Yorke Peninsula South Oz.

Dianna,would you know where on Yorke Peninsula this is?.As Im on YP,I thought I would take the Perentie out and about and check it out.

[Mick_Marsh]

This one turned up yesterday.
Is it on the list.?
33100505E
URL=http://s939.photobucket.com/user/123rover50/media/Forward%20Control/new%202B_zps4cup7tth.jpg.html]https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/02/569.jpg[/URL]

Keith
What of that Stage 1 in the background there?

[Lotz-A-Landies]

This one turned up yesterday.
Is it on the list.?
33100505E
<image removed>
KeithHi Keith

It was not on the list, but I have added what you've presented, if you let me know more information like where it is and engine number, I will update the stickies.

[87County]

There's this one close to Quirindi DA

1960s Land Rover Other Other Cab Chassis Forward Control | Cars, Vans & Utes | Gumtree Australia Liverpool Plains - Quirindi | 1061895085 (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/quirindi/cars-vans-utes/1960s-land-rover-other-other-cab-chassis-forward-control/1061895085)

(genuine sale- reputable seller)

[123rover50]

Hi Keith

It was not on the list, but I have added what you've presented, if you let me know more information like where it is and engine number, I will update the stickies.

Its at this QTH ATM.
Sadly its got a Holden in it but I have a couple of 6,s that might do.
Any idea what the engine number should be?
Chassis is a bit sad. Still has the cab lining jack handles etc which is a plus.
Like to put it back close to original as most seem to have been re engined.
I am guilty of that too.
Mick.
The stage one is just resting. Oiled up waiting for a resto. It still has the V8 in it.
Keith

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Hi Keith

I don't have a record of any SIIB above #455D but what you would be looking for would be a Rover 6 cyl with an engine number in the 3300 prefix above 1255A.

If you can't find a 3300 sequence engine any Land Rover 6 would do, however the water pumps on FC were the 3 litre car type, although IMHO the normal control type would be better for cooling.

If it comes down to it we may be able to do a deal on the engine out of 33100105A in my back yard.

[gromit]

I saw this one at a show in Gippsland back in 2010.

The bonnet has been extended so not sure what motor it was running.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/02/403.jpg (http://s1245.photobucket.com/user/cradley/media/Stuff/DSCF6421_zpsadbldqwx.jpg.html)

Just checked on the VicRoads website and it's still registered. I can send the chassis number if you'd like it Diana.


Colin

[wrinklearthur]

After I finish the MF203 backhoe loader, 'HECter' restoration, the boundary fence, 'Fred' and 'Daisy's' paint work, I would like to make up for ourselves a nice camper.

Having lots of panels and having a couple of 110 Defender chassis here, I am looking at the possibility of a forward control camper with a 300TDi, R380 and a Defender LT230.

Letting the imagination loose, I do like the comfort of the Discovery cabin and have watched with interest the ease that Graham of the tumbling tucker truck fame, has chopped a D1 into a extra cab, it's mounted on a extended and strengthened D1 chassis set at 130" wheel base and it is to have a expanding sides pop top camper module fitted on the back.
I'll try take some spy shots of it for you lot to drool over.

I am interested in the sub frame that sits above the main chassis that carries the cab parts, has anyone got some decent photo's of those parts that I can have a look at?

[rangieman]

I saw this one at a show in Gippsland back in 2010.

The bonnet has been extended so not sure what motor it was running.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/02/403.jpg (http://s1245.photobucket.com/user/cradley/media/Stuff/DSCF6421_zpsadbldqwx.jpg.html)

Just checked on the VicRoads website and it's still registered. I can send the chassis number if you'd like it Diana.


Colin

I know the guy that owns this . It is all L/cruiser running gear:eek:

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Hi Colin

The chassis number would be good.

The bonnet extension will likely be for clearance of brakes and steering. The engine is below the middle of the seatbox.

Diana

[gromit]

Hi Colin

The chassis number would be good.

The bonnet extension will likely be for clearance of brakes and steering. The engine is below the middle of the seatbox.

Diana

PM sent.

Colin

[sylandy]

I recall seeing a SIIA out the front of Corin Forest in Canberra around 2005. Wonder if it is still around?

Sean

[Mick_Marsh]

Looky here:
Old Land Rover Parts Series 2 and Series 3 (1958 - 1984 models) | Wrecking | Gumtree Australia Litchfield Area - Tumbling Waters | 1061773266 (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/tumbling-waters/wrecking/old-land-rover-parts-series-2-and-series-3-1958-1984-models-/1061773266?utm_source=criteo&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=LF-other&mpch=ads)
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/siia-siib-forward-controls/92427d1428112136-how-many-civilian-forward-controls-there-_28.jpg

[Cobber]

Dan's a nice fella and a forumite if I'm not mistaken :BigThumb:

[Lotz-A-Landies]

If Dan is the one with the spares yard, I'd really like the chassis number for our register.