Isuzu NPR59 4BD1T price

[Chucaro]

Hi.
Isuzu NPR59 4BD1T complete secondhand Engine for
$4950.00 including gst . It comes with a 6 month parts & labour warranty .
Is this a good deal ?
Cheers

[DRanged]

Depends if it is an import ie low k,s its the going rate. If it were a local engine with big k,s way too much.

Justin

[Chucaro]

The supplier said:
"Isuzu NPR59 4BD1T, Turbo 3.9ltr 4cyl Imported, Reconditioned and Local
Secondhand engines. All engines, transmissions and differentials come with 6
Months, 50,000 klm Parts and Labour Warranty.All engines are tested and
cleaned. Cheap freight Australia Wide"


By the advertising can be local or imported :eek:
Cheers

[Blknight.aus]

have them specify what is done for reconditioning. IF its a proper rebuild then your laughing and those engines are a steal. If its just a minor inspection and tune then its a tad high but given the survivability of the motor if they reckon it'll do 50K km in 6 months I reckon it'll go further.

[Chucaro]

The idea is to fit it in a County diesel. I am considering in selling my Disco and go County or Defender Tdi300.
I am evaluating all the options.
I think that a County fulli rebuilt and with this engine is going to be a nice expedition set up. :)
Cheers

[Blknight.aus]

agreed, if you can swingf it get one with an lt95 box.

[dobbo]

It depends on how long the project will take. If you can fit the engine in a weekend then you'll have 5 1/2 months warrantee to sort out any issues. Chances are like most people the build will take more than the prescribed warrantee period, then one the day of the first fire up of the new engine, and it's siezed, you have not a leg to stand on. Saw this happen with an import FJ40 engine once.

[defenderbilby]

Also consider that from an Isuzu truck to a LandRover will involve a few modifications such as 12v starter, sump modification, air filter system, adapter to fit gearbox etc.

[Chucaro]

Also consider that from an Isuzu truck to a LandRover will involve a few modifications such as 12v starter, sump modification, air filter system, adapter to fit gearbox etc.

Why is going to require all these modifications when the intention is to get a County diesel ? Is the same engine block and head, just change some parts thats all. Correct me if I am wrong :(
If it is to much of a problem then I will send it to rebuild the original engine and fit a turbo.
Maybe the latter is the best idea ?
Cheers

[Blknight.aus]

providing your getting the county with a suzi 3.9 in it theres no need for major conversion work all the bits required will bolt off of the existing 3.9 and onto the new one which will then slot straight in and start giving stirling service. But then so will the old one...

Personally Id have me a very close look at the existing 3.9, you cant kill them with a big stick (but you can with a couple of cups of water down the intake) so if it starts first go, runs ummm smoothish (remeber these things are basically tractor engine technology as far as the automotive world is concerned) doesnt blow smoke under load and isnt making any bad "im going to have my internals for lunch" type metal on metal noises or clanks then Id leave it in there and spend the $$$ elsewhere.

[Chucaro]

providing your getting the county with a suzi 3.9 in it theres no need for major conversion work all the bits required will bolt off of the existing 3.9 and onto the new one which will then slot straight in and start giving stirling service. But then so will the old one...

Personally Id have me a very close look at the existing 3.9, you cant kill them with a big stick (but you can with a couple of cups of water down the intake) so if it starts first go, runs ummm smoothish (remeber these things are basically tractor engine technology as far as the automotive world is concerned) doesnt blow smoke under load and isnt making any bad "im going to have my internals for lunch" type metal on metal noises or clanks then Id leave it in there and spend the $$$ elsewhere.

Ok, I am not familiar with this engines regarding what is need to swap one for the other. The test bit of a diesel engine it is not a problem. I used to work with John Deere and Perkins for a few years in the late 70's.
Cheers

[UncleHo]

G'day Chucaro :)

The 4BD1 Isuzu diesel that was/is fitted to the Landrover has some modifications to it to fit the Landrover bellhousing, the water pump is a totally different casting, and the starter is 12 volt there are other differences also exhaust comes to mind, BUT, if you were replacing a dead 4BD1 with another unit then it is a simple swap of parts or units. if the Isuzu is already fitted in a Landrover then it would have to be pretty dead not to get it going for $5K

cheers

[Chucaro]

G'day Chucaro :)

The 4BD1 Isuzu diesel that was/is fitted to the Landrover has some modifications to it to fit the Landrover bellhousing, the water pump is a totally different casting, and the starter is 12 volt there are other differences also exhaust comes to mind, BUT, if you were replacing a dead 4BD1 with another unit then it is a simple swap of parts or units. if the Isuzu is already fitted in a Landrover then it would have to be pretty dead not to get it going for $5K

cheers

Thank you for your inputs, I like more and more the idea of the County. The engine with turbo is going to be more powerful than the Tdi 300 :)
Cheers

[EchiDna]

welcome to the club (potentially)

still thinking of ways to intercool mine...
it's on the big list of things to do

[defenderbilby]

It has been a while since I looked into the cost to get the 4bd1 turboed but from memory was approx $4000 from a place at Wollongong.
The 4bd1-T has different pistons and pump so the price you have is OK. With your experience you should have no problems of swapping parts of an existing Isuzu Land Rover.
I also have a County 4bd1 which I am working on at present and hope to replace my computer driven Td5.
Also consider turbo and gas injection. Have spoken to an owner at Penrith who had it gased and was very happy.

[rovercare]

doesnt blow smoke under load .

Mine does, I'm thinking a turbo and intercooler will sort it out:D

The missus has done near 10.oook in it so far:eek:

[Chucaro]

It has been a while since I looked into the cost to get the 4bd1 turboed but from memory was approx $4000 from a place at Wollongong.
The 4bd1-T has different pistons and pump so the price you have is OK. With your experience you should have no problems of swapping parts of an existing Isuzu Land Rover.
I also have a County 4bd1 which I am working on at present and hope to replace my computer driven Td5.
Do you already have an Isuzu County? In the latest Just 4x4 there are some advertised from Tasmainia which would probably be worth having a look at.

As I mentioned in the thread Defender or County I am in the process of evaluating which way to go with a budget of 15000 fully sorted out in either model. I am the type of person that try to do my research before jumping in.
It is going to be for long trips 2 months or more at the time so reliability is a must.
I am planning to sell my Disco which is in very good condition to finance the project.
Cheers

[mudmouse]

I got a quote from a large Sydney truck wrecker (NTS) for a no exchange (outright) complete 4BD1-T for $5950. Local motor with 6 months/50,000Km warranty. Haven't read the warranty conditions and he didn't mention the mileage in the email... Another option is the new Chinese import 'aftermarket' versions - $6600 complete (f/wheel, clutch kit, ancillaries etc) 12 month unlimited km warranty. I haven't read any experiences from people using the aftermarket motors but the seller seems to have a good background.

New Isuzu MXA-5R box to suit for $1250.

[Chucaro]

I got a quote from a large Sydney truck wrecker (NTS) for a no exchange (outright) complete 4BD1-T for $5950. Local motor with 6 months/50,000Km warranty. Haven't read the warranty conditions and he didn't mention the mileage in the email... Another option is the new Chinese import 'aftermarket' versions - $6600 complete (f/wheel, clutch kit, ancillaries etc) 12 month unlimited km warranty. I haven't read any experiences from people using the aftermarket motors but the seller seems to have a good background.

New Isuzu MXA-5R box to suit for $1250.

Thank you for the info, sine I posted the topic I have done some research. Fitting a diesel in a County with existing V8 petrol engine can cost up to $ 15000.
Considering the cost of this job would be more logic to purchasing a County diesel or a defender with a Tdi 300 and do the restoration required.
Cheers