Milford Bracket Removal

[Four Boar]

Hi all,

When I removed my Cargo Barrier from my 98' D1,
It was very hard to get the brackets out. So they are stuck in between the internal and external body of the car.

Can I get them out?
How difficult is it?
Perhaps it would be easier to purchase another pair when I sell the CB,
If so are the brackets relitivly cheap?

Kind Regards Calum.:o

[CraigE]

You will have to remove whatever trim is around the bracket (maybe leave hanging depending if trim will come off over the bracket) and then unbolt the brackets. There are various installations so is a bit hard to be concise with recomendations. Not a hard job usually but may be time consuming.
I have to ask why would you want to remove your cargo barrier?? Makes anything held in the back of your vehicle a potentially lethal object. I have seen the results of not having a cargo barrier and believe me it is not pretty. I think they should be compulsory on all wagons.

[Four Boar]

I can't fit my spearguns (in a safe padded gun bag) in with the cargo barrier installed, with out it I just fold one of the back seats down and away I go. Some people have uses for them and others just dont need them.

Thanks for you your help.

[Pierre]

Cut a speargun sized hole in the wire mesh low down and lower the seat.

Best of both worlds.

Pete

[Signal1]

Cut a speargun sized hole in the wire mesh low down and lower the seat.

Best of both worlds.

Pete

Ah great minds...

[Xtreme]

How many people with cargo barriers store loose items in front of them making them not only ineffective but an inconvenience and a waste of money.

I prefer a partial barrier along with adequate cargo lashing points. All gear is then packed and SECURED while still being accessable.

The biggest advantage I've seen offered by a cargo barrier is the extra strength they give to the roof - and this can be achieved with either full or partial barrier. It dosen't improve the weakest link in the case of a roll over and that is the 'A' pillers which are only cast aluminium and snap like a carrot - talking Defenders here as not experienced with Disco roll overs.

Whatever happens I sincerely hope that another piece of legislation is not introduced further restricting our freedom of choice.

[CraigE]

Attend a few MVA's with and without a cargo barrier instaled and I guarantee your opinions of the neccesity for a cargo barrier will change.
Yes every one carries items in the cab, but when items come from the back of the vehicle they have a lot more momentum and do a lot more damage, especially heavy items. Load restraints do break in MVA's or come loose or dislocate.
As said look at a half barrier, or a slot cut in to accomodate long items. Other options are to locate on a roof rack. Other option is to get the additional bracket extensions to relocate the cargo barrier behind the front seats.
Must be long spear guns. I have had them and rifles in the back of my Disco and RR with cargo barriers without any issue.
I am a big advocate of cargo barriers being made compulsory and you cn put up any objection or argument you want, but when things go wrong there are no second chances.
:)

[p38arover]

Craig, your view on my comments in http://www.aulro.com/afvb/discovery/48932-23-cargo-barrier-yhea-baby.html would be appreciated.

[p38arover]

Hi all,

When I removed my Cargo Barrier from my 98' D1,
It was very hard to get the brackets out. So they are stuck in between the internal and external body of the car.

Can I get them out?
How difficult is it?
Perhaps it would be easier to purchase another pair when I sell the CB,
If so are the brackets relitivly cheap?

The mounting kit is $100. See here for the fitting instructions for a D1 system and you'll understand how the brackets mount:
http://p38arover.com/rover/discovery/706500.pdf

[CraigE]

How many people with cargo barriers store loose items in front of them making them not only ineffective but an inconvenience and a waste of money.

I prefer a partial barrier along with adequate cargo lashing points. All gear is then packed and SECURED while still being accessable.

The biggest advantage I've seen offered by a cargo barrier is the extra strength they give to the roof - and this can be achieved with either full or partial barrier. It dosen't improve the weakest link in the case of a roll over and that is the 'A' pillers which are only cast aluminium and snap like a carrot - talking Defenders here as not experienced with Disco roll overs.

Whatever happens I sincerely hope that another piece of legislation is not introduced further restricting our freedom of choice.
Roger,
I have to ask how is freedom of choice related to safety?? Most people would not even consider not using a seat belt today, but it was not compulsory 50 years ago.
If you could ask the kids that have been killed by engle fridge lids, eskies, compressors and other gear flying forward wether they had a choice or see the results in the back seat, the impact on the family, the regret of their choice not to fit one and the effect it has on those of us who have to see this stuff, you may reconsider your opinion.
At the end of the day the choice is yours, even if it is made compulsory.
A dual position barrier is the answer.
Safety changes are not a restriction on freedom of choice, but a way of ensuring we get to live. most of legislation that is created around safety is written in blood. I hae been to many incidents were a dented cargo barrier has saved the head of a child.
I am not against your choice or opinion, I just can not see the validity of it or reasoning.

[Xtreme]

Craig,

Appreciate your comments and agree that Cargo barriers save injuries and lives. I am not saying that cargo barriers are no good ..... if used as designed.

What I was trying to get across was that there are other ways of securing your load effectively and therefore ensuring the safety of all involved. To deny that choice by introducing legislation that insists on only one method (a cargo barrier) is simply a restriction of one's choice.

There are risks/dangers in just about all aspects of living and they all require sensible management.