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lro11
4th January 2008, 06:51 PM
can anyone tell me where the switch is mounted for the hand brake light or a picture of it

Blknight.aus
4th January 2008, 07:33 PM
didnt know that the series III had a handbrake switch...........

choke warning, alt warning, hi beam indicator and low oil pressure light was all I remember them having.

shorty943
4th January 2008, 07:38 PM
YEP.
And mine also has a pair of what look like extention speaker plug holes, coloured white and light blue, in the dash binacle as well, and I'm buggered if I can work out what they are for.:(

lro11
4th January 2008, 07:44 PM
wow how advanced tell me more about your series 3

JDNSW
4th January 2008, 07:54 PM
Just looked at the Series 3 parts book - no mention of a hand brake switch. There is a brake failure warning system on dual braking installations, which may have switches on the Pedal assembly (pedal movement), booster (vacuum failure) and on the distribution block, which has a switch to detect differential pressure between front and rear. I think the last was the only one fitted in this country, and, of course, early Series 3 had a single circuit braking system with no warning lights at all.

John

rangieman
4th January 2008, 07:54 PM
YEP.
And mine also has a pair of what look like extention speaker plug holes, coloured white and light blue, in the dash binacle as well, and I'm buggered if I can work out what they are for.:(
They should be for suppling a power source:D

lro11
4th January 2008, 08:01 PM
I have a centre dash cluster that has a brake failure light and a hand brake light it was removed from a 1981 series 3

shorty943
4th January 2008, 08:06 PM
can anyone tell me where the switch is mounted for the hand brake light or a picture of it

It's on the handbrake mounting system under the seatbox. The light itself is in the triangular section in the dash center.


Just looked at the Series 3 parts book - no mention of a hand brake switch. There is a brake failure warning system on dual braking installations, which may have switches on the Pedal assembly (pedal movement), booster (vacuum failure) and on the distribution block, which has a switch to detect differential pressure between front and rear. I think the last was the only one fitted in this country, and, of course, early Series 3 had a single circuit braking system with no warning lights at all.

John

I think there is a fluid level switch on the master cylinder of the dual circuit S3's, that lights a warning lamp on the dash. There is another rectangular lamp with the Parking Brake light, in the center dash. That might be it, John.


They should be for suppling a power source:D

Okay. The other end doesn't go anywhere anyway.:p
A white and blue wiring set, that doesn't connect to any thing at either end. Bewdy.:D
It's all being changed anyway, so I've got a spare power run now.:cool:

Blknight.aus
4th January 2008, 08:16 PM
the hand brake light in those is mounted under the arm on a bracket on the seat box and is only there to let you know that the handbrake is not fully down. its an after market setup so almost any normaly closed push to open switch will be up to the task.

shorty943
4th January 2008, 08:22 PM
the hand brake light in those is mounted under the arm on a bracket on the seat box and is only there to let you know that the handbrake is not fully down. its an after market setup so almost any normaly closed push to open switch will be up to the task.


That's him. A little bakelite rectangle with a small round button on top, and some really spindly wires broken out the bottom. At least they were on mine.

lro11
4th January 2008, 08:27 PM
this is what my switch looks like

tony
5th January 2008, 07:34 AM
SIII didnt have em...if you have one its an ad on

the things that look like speaker plugs on the binical are power outlets one is + the other - they wrere for the inspection lamp that came in the CES for the vehicle

T

lro11
5th January 2008, 08:30 AM
My series 3 was a CKD manufactured vehicle that was built at Moorebank this means that it was fitted with parts particular to Australia like the badges on the side that say Land Rover 2.3D and a recent visit to the LR factory in the UK confirmed this was the case

UncleHo
5th January 2008, 09:54 AM
G'day Lro11 :)

You are right, the switch is a Lucas switch that was fitted to VERY late Series 3's to meet Australian ADR's, and if it is marked 2.3D it would have one of the very rare 5 bearing diesel motors, the parking/handbrake switch was fitted on a L shaped bracket on the lever mechanism, it did look very homemade, that was the Leyland practice at the time, cheap and just as fragile, the switch is the similar to the the under dash (on pedal) stop light switch, the Part No is R589291 switch the park brake dash lens is PRC 1705 the switch should ahv 1 or 2 nuts on it or should screw into a bracket with nut welded to it, and the other nut is the lock nut, you can use the mechanical stoplight switch for the series 3 R575166,or 13H3735, this is also a Lucas switch and should be available from the usual suspects;)

Part No's from 1980 parts Cattledog which includes the Australian ADR requirements for De-toxing and Brakes

Hope that is of some help:)

cheers

lro11
5th January 2008, 11:04 AM
By any chance did you show your vehicle at the Caboolture historical car show a couple of months ago with numpty's series 1?

shorty943
5th January 2008, 11:35 AM
Thank's Unca Ho. And Tony.

That makes my 5\79 S3 107 a late model Aussie compliant.

All now removed, being replaced by stronger stuff.

From a 3 ton truck.:twisted:

UncleHo
5th January 2008, 11:39 AM
G'day Lro11 :)

That would have been me,there was myself, Numpty & Numpty's Missus, and Bill Campbell with his Chev Blitz :) that is my good old 2a gs. I would have had it's Army Rego No on it for the display.

cheers

lro11
5th January 2008, 11:56 AM
I thought as much, we spoke at length on the clinches pond subject that day.
Can you have a look in your book to see if the bracket has a part number?

lro11
5th January 2008, 01:26 PM
do you still have the switch bracket?

UncleHo
5th January 2008, 03:31 PM
G'day Lro11 :)

The part No for the Switch Bracket for Handbrake is NRC 2935 X1 but this book has no illustrations of any of the Aust ADR 27A special parts, so I am going on discriptions only:) if you can get hold of a "Landrover Series 111 88,109 & V8 Parts Catalogue Feb 1980 P/n RTC9841 that may help you with some of the stuff on the de-oxed vehicles but it only lists the 3 main bearing vehicles but lists the Diesel 3 brg. both early and later Series 3's the change is at an Engine No the later one has the sump strengthening plates, and the extra baffle plate from Engine No 90654451C onwards it is the one with a double sump plugwhich I presume is for the vacuum pump lube.

cheers

Lucas
5th January 2008, 09:25 PM
[QUOTE=UncleHo;664451]G'day Lro11 :)

and if it is marked 2.3D it would have one of the very rare 5 bearing diesel motors,

Hi Uncle Ho,
Sorry to all for hijacking this thread.
Mine has the 5 bearing 2.25 Petrol, was the diesel still based on the same block ??
Is the 5 bearing rare in general, or only the diesel ????

UncleHo
5th January 2008, 10:08 PM
G'day Lucas :)

The 5 bearing motor is uncommon in Australia, as the only ones that I know of came in with fully built up vehicles,(Station Wagons) as the loally assembled vehicles used up the 3 bearing motors, the 5 arrived about late 1981, and Series sales ended in 82, when the Coil Sprung Vehicles arrived,in 1984, they were only available as V8 or 3.9 Isuzu diesels, they never imported the 4 cylinder motor although it went on in other parts of the world until 1989. part are a little hard to get, as that motor had several changes to the Crankshaft, Flywheel, were 8:1 comp heads, and had a heap of anti-pollution gear on them. this block design eventually became the Turbo diesel, and the 200TDI:) parts are easily available from UK through companies like A.E.Paddock, John Craddock Ltd.


NOTE: the 5 bearing motor will revv quite freely, and when over-revved will throw No4 conrod out of the side of the block:( I have replaced 2 of these motors, same problem, the 3 bearing will shake YOU apart first;) and Yes, the blocks are common shared.

cheers

lro11
6th January 2008, 08:50 AM
sorry the original suffix D block was beyond repair I had to use a suffix A block for the rebuild. But if anyone has one going to waste I would be happy to help