holy crap "what the"!!!

[cucinadio]

:o with all the rain in the last few weeks, i was getting the obligatory leak in the foot wells of the disco! :( it normally only happens when my truck is park on a down slop face first, and i can usually dry it up pretty quick with a hair dryer!!!.
but the last few days i have been worried as the carpet, it wasn't drying up and seemed to be getting wetter buy the day (u could squish it like a wet car sponge!! ) so i thought id better have look today and see if i could work it out ;). Well holy crap !! the bloody carpet wasn't to saturated but the underlay was wet as an eight month olds nappy after a twelve hour sleep :mad:

had to pull it up and inspect the damage and try to dry it out, but under the lay :D(that was clever hey!) was a surprise to rival any soiled nappy :eek: the dust and grit under the underlay was so wet that it had turned to mud!, and really wet mud!! :confused: i pulled the underlay out and dried the carpet out once again with the air dryer and began to clean up it up !! i really can't express my dismay at how much mud was there i was that dumb founded that i even thought the boys on the forum will never believe this and forgot to take a pic ;)
but any way i then tried to find the leek and "really no ones surprise I'm sure" !! it was the bloody windscreen seal at the top of the corners of the windscreen !!! can someone give me some fix it now!! solutions for this and yes the silicon thing will work but, y do they have this prob??, and am i really better off replacing the window seal all together ??? :confused:

cheers

p.s the windscreen was replaced in i july 07'

[Utemad]

I don't know about the leak but as for drying your carpets the best thing to do to dry them, apart from pulling them out, is to lift them up and put something in there while they are drying. It lets the air circulate. Otherwise as you found out they will never dry . They will rust out your floors though.

[p38arover]

It may not be the screen.

Look at my posts here: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/38755-getting-wet-2.html

[cucinadio]

I don't know about the leak but as for drying your carpets the best thing to do to dry them, apart from pulling them out, is to lift them up and put something in there while they are drying. It lets the air circulate. Otherwise as you found out they will never dry . They will rust out your floors though.

yhea i was doing that but this time there was no way the underlay was going to dry in a blue fit!!, it was soaked through there must a leek somewhere els but i just can't find it, trucking ting :(


cheers

[p38arover]

I took the carpets out of my daughters and hit them with the high pressure water cleaner. Boy, that shifted the red pindam from the Kimberley! They look good now.

Here underlay at the rear seat footwell was so wet it had gone mouldy and made the carpet black from mould, too. I hosed off the underlay and carpets after treating them with bleach.

[cucinadio]

I took the carpets out of my daughters and hit them with the high pressure water cleaner. Boy, that shifted the red pindam from the Kimberley! They look good now. Here underlay at the rear seat foot well was so wet it had gone mouldy and made the carpet black from mould, too. I hosed off the underlay and carpets after treating them with bleach.

yhea Ive checked the back as well but thank god the back is fine !!!, mate could you direct me to the heater intake your talking about would help greatly ??
here's a pic of the top of the left window seal y is it mot sitting right can an one tell me



cheers

[LandyAndy]

I bet you have a non genuine windscreen.
The aftermarket ones are a slightly different shape and dont seal correctly unless the instaler knows.They need plenty more sealing goop than a normal vehicle to seal them correctly.
Andrew

[cucinadio]

I bet you have a non genuine windscreen.
The aftermarket ones are a slightly different shape and dont seal correctly unless the instaler knows.They need plenty more sealing goop than a normal vehicle to seal them correctly.
Andrew

yhea probably !!, it was replaced before i brought the truck as part of the sale !!.
is there a certain goop, as you call it that, needed or do i just use siloflex ?, and would the siloflex hold down the rubber seal as in the pic??


cheers

[gazk]

Hi , with the recent rain I finally got sick of drying out the front footwells in my 93 disco.
I was getting water dripping into the footwells from the ventilation system. Early D1s have the air inlet in the centre of the plenum chamber so the water ends up in both footwells, whereas later D1s have the inlet on the left side so only the passenger's feet get wet. To fix the problem I removed the plennum cover, installed a baffle above the inlet (a piece of aluminium attached to the wiper mount bolt) I also cleaned off the old sealant between the windscreen rubber and plennum cover and resealed this join with a generous ammount of windscreen sealant. (the type that does not set hard) So far so good - no more leaks.
Regards

[p38arover]

Hi , with the recent rain I finally got sick of drying out the front footwells in my 93 disco.
I was getting water dripping into the footwells from the ventilation system. Early D1s have the air inlet in the centre of the plenum chamber so the water ends up in both footwells, whereas later D1s have the inlet on the left side so only the passenger's feet get wet. To fix the problem I removed the plennum cover, installed a baffle above the inlet (a piece of aluminium attached to the wiper mount bolt) I also cleaned off the old sealant between the windscreen rubber and plennum cover and resealed this join with a generous ammount of windscreen sealant. (the type that does not set hard) So far so good - no more leaks.
Regards

LR came out with a fix for that. It's a lip on the bottom edge of the plastic air intake screen above the LH heater inlet.

Oh, if the screen has been replaced make sure the lower lip of the rubber is over the top of the rear edge of the plenum. Otherwise the water runs down the screen and straight into the air intake. My daughters did that. It's not here for me to take a pic.

[cucinadio]

the plennum cover

OK guys Ive looked at the Manuel and it doesn't say where this cover is can anyone direct me in the right direction so i don't start pulling things apart on an assumption;)

cheers

[incisor]

land rover discovery plenum cover - Google Search (http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=land+rover+discovery+plenum+cover&spell=1)

Manuel (Fawlty Towers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_(Fawlty_Towers))

[p38arover]

Oh, if the screen has been replaced make sure the lower lip of the rubber is over the top of the rear edge of the plenum. Otherwise the water runs down the screen and straight into the air intake. My daughters did that. It's not here for me to take a pic.


Oops, the rubber lip goes over the plastic below the screen. I'll find a Disco later today and take a pic.

[gazk]

The plennum cover is that plastic panel across the bottom of the windscreen, the wiper drive shafts shafts stick through it. Remove the wipers and the nuts on the shafts as well as the plastic retainer at each end (replace these with new retainer clips or stainless steel screws) as well as the screws on the end pieces. No need to remove the bonnet to remove the cover.

Regards

[p38arover]

I took the pics - now I need to know how to get them off my phone. I've never taken any pics with the phone before.

[incisor]

mate i love your work !!!, but jjjjees you can be a right p$#% somtimes ???? :mad:

cheers
funny you should mention that...:o

[dhard]

Mine leaked the last time it rained, it hadn't rained for so long and with car outside in the sun the top seal had shrunk. I fixed the problem by running some tape just above the edge and ran window sealant along pulled of tape and now it doesn't leak. Just wish engine oil leak was that easy and cheap to fix.

[cucinadio]

OK guys thanks for the advice it was really helpful :BigThumb:

l checked the windscreen and it is an after market screen :o and the tops of both the seals weren't stuck down very well, after l could stick a pencil down the tops off the seals :(, so my liitle bro and l, filled them both nice an clean with sealant theres no water getting in there now let me tell you :D we ran a bead down the sides and across the top as well.
After some checking on the other thing you all mention l found that one of the door wiring rubber grommets had worked its self out into the space between the outer panel and the body, water was coming down through the inner panel and tracking its way down the wiring into the cab.
l also found a split in the wiring loom that comes in just below the air con pips (if that makes sense !)
tested all areas this arvo and alls well.
so thanks guys for the help :D

cheers

[cucinadio]

bloody hell the leaks are back "what the!!!!!!!!":censored::censored::soapbox::soapbox::wallbash::w allbash:ok i feel better now ;)

l might be stretching it ?, but does anyone els have any ideas on where it could be getting in :(

cheers

[RonMcGr]

bloody hell the leaks are back "what the!!!!!!!!":censored::censored::soapbox::soapbox::wallbash::w allbash:ok i feel better now ;)

l might be stretching it ?, but does anyone els have any ideas on where it could be getting in :(

cheers

RUST HOLES

[cucinadio]

RUST HOLES


l found a little rust at the top of the post's where the panels meet in the corners of the just below the front windscreen pillars (if that makes sense ;) under the corners of the pelenium cover!.
but cleaned it up with a pencil grinder, (not mush there !)
converted it, sealed it, siliconed it, and then taped it up just for good measure. but it still? leaks? is there anywhere else its pron to rust?

cheers

[cucinadio]

l found a little rust at the top of the post's where the panels meet in the corners of the just below the front windscreen pillars (if that makes sense ;) under the corners of the pelenium cover!.
but cleaned it up with a pencil grinder, (not mush there !)
converted it, sealed it, siliconed it, and then taped it up just for good measure. but it still? leaks? is there anywhere else its pron to rust?

cheers


mm don't worry ;) after Ron Mc's simple advice i thought if theres rust at the top, well elementary really hey ;)
l took off the panel this arvo, to find this :(
well it turns out that it wasn't really as bad as it looked, it wasn't to deep and the only place that water was getting in was from the rust around that little bloody grommet on the side, after some cleaning, a little grinding, a little converter, slikaflex, and some strategically placed biyseal i think its all good from here on :D

ps the finished slikaflex job was a lot neater than the pic, l was half way through then and after i had finished at around 9.30 i had forgotten to take a pic of the end!!

anyway cheers Ron


cheers

opp's

[Utemad]

After seeing Jessie_xa's 98 model Disco with it's guards off I'd say rust like that is pretty common. Makes me worry about my 94 model :(

His rust was more concentrated under that hole next to the wiring harness.

[cucinadio]

After seeing Jessie_xa's 98 model Disco with it's guards off I'd say rust like that is pretty common. Makes me worry about my 94 model :(

His rust was more concentrated under that hole next to the wiring harness.

have you looked under your panels as yet? ;) could be interesting !!

yhea thank god l got it early it was only surface stuff but it should hold for a few More years now i also slikaflexed the holes in the box section so as no water can settle in the end of it so so i will see after Ive let it really set before l give it another really good test cross fingers ;)


cheers

[Utemad]

No I haven't taken my guards off yet. Just tipped some lanolin through the hole. How long did it take you to get them off. Easy job?

[cucinadio]

No I haven't taken my guards off yet. Just tipped some lanolin through the hole. How long did it take you to get them off. Easy job?


pretty easy just use a systematic approach and alls good!

the things to be carefully about are where the finishing panel under the headlight meet the guard with a rubber grommet! and if you've never had them off before you have to gently break the silicon seal along where the rear of the panel meets the body with the four bolts, it takes a bit of force to break without putting to much force on the panel !
I'm doing the other side tomorrow so if you like i will take step but step pics! just let me know yhea

cheers

[p38arover]

I'm doing the other side tomorrow so if you like i will take step but step pics! just let me know yhea

Yes please! I'm doing my daughter's in a week or so.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

In the photo above, see that plastic bung to the right and below the large hole (plenum chamber drain), my daughter's car was leaking quite a bit of water around that and intot eh cabin. I sealed it with silicone but if the guard was off, I'd use bitumen paint, e.g., Ormanoid. I was also travelling so I didn't have bitumen paint with me.

Also, see the little plastic socket that is poking through the panel in line with the rust stain near the door pillar, water also leaks past that into the cabin. In her case, the socket was split - I put a pic up on the forum a while back. Hang on..

Ahh, here it is and where it is located from inside the cabin:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

If you are removing the mudguards, I recommend sealing the backs of these as well (plus any other bungs or plugs you find).



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[cucinadio]

Yes please! I'm doing my daughter's in a week or so.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/discovery/6349d1201182276-holy-crap-what-picture-280.jpg

In the photo above, see that plastic bung to the right and below the large hole (plenum chamber drain), my daughter's car was leaking quite a bit of water around that and intot eh cabin. I sealed it with silicone but if the guard was off, I'd use bitumen paint, e.g., Ormanoid. I was also travelling so I didn't have bitumen paint with me.

Also, see the little plastic socket that is poking through the panel in line with the rust stain near the door pillar, water also leaks past that into the cabin. In her case, the socket was split - I put a pic up on the forum a while back. Hang on..

Ahh, here it is and where it is located from inside the cabin:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

If you are removing the mudguards, I recommend sealing the backs of these as well (plus any other bungs or plugs you find).



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yhea as you can see in this pic i did seal the little plug really well !!
did you seal the big hole that drains the the plenium drain ?

[cucinadio]

l also replaced all the vent filters with biyseal, im sure the fact that the old ones were falling apart, had something to do with the excess water getting in the plenium channal!!


cheers

[Utemad]

I just took my passenger side guard off my Disco1 to check for rust.

I found that mine was similar but a bit better than Ron's. I had slight surface rust around the sealant closest to the door. Not much so I just cleaned it up a little with a flat blade screw driver. Also had a surface rust on the spot welds near the big drain hole up the top from the windscreen wiper drain. Also some more surface rust in the bottom just near the bottom front edge of the door. This spot probably gets filled with leaves and what not that can't get out of the gap and therefore stays wet.

All in all I was very happy with it. No doubt reaping the rewards of being someone's baby and garaged most of its life (before I got it).

I soaked the whole area in lanolin and then chassis black spray paint on most of it.

Two things I noticed as being different to the two cars done above already. The plastic bung that comes through from the inside isn't there on mine. No hole for it either so that is a plus. Also I have a long black rubber tube that comes out through a hole in the inner guard just forward of the wiring harness for the indicator. I think it went to the underside of the windscreen drain area. It is very long and would almost reach to the bottom of the guard.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/02/530.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/02/531.jpg

[p38arover]

ITwo things I noticed as being different to the two cars done above already. The plastic bung that comes through from the inside isn't there on mine. No hole for it either so that is a plus. Also I have a long black rubber tube that comes out through a hole in the inner guard just forward of the wiring harness for the indicator. I think it went to the underside of the windscreen drain area. It is very long and would almost reach to the bottom of the guard.

I can't see pics at work :angel: but I see from your sig line that yours is a pre-update model so it is different around the plenum area.

[Utemad]

Nope mine is the very first of the update model. Feb 94 I beleive.

[cucinadio]

yhea guys sorry :( l didn't get to doing the step by step, l was flat out with work and didn't even get a chance to do the other side anyway :mad:

anyway whats the other pipe coming down other than the blinker lead ???? :confused: l dont have that either

cheers

[Utemad]

The little pipe you mention is a drain pipe. I think it is another drain for the under windscreen area.

As for step by step:

1. Remove the blinker by pulling on the spring on the back of it.
2. Remove the small nut and bolt that hold the plastic grille part that sits under the blinker.
3. Remove the nut and bolt that holds the bottom edge of the guard to the plastic channel that runs along under the doors and guard.
4. Remove the bolt that is on the bottom side of the guard in front of the tyre (above the bullbar/bumper wing).
5. Remove the 4 bolts that are visible when you open the door.
6. Remove the six? screws that run across the top of the guard under the bonnet lip.
7. Reach up behind the guard and pop out the blicker and remove it.
8. Gently wiggle the guard off. It is held on by silastic that is under the top screws and inside door area bolts.
9. Be aware that the guard extends a small amount up behind the plastic panel on the top edge near the door. You need to slide the guard forward a bit and then lift the bottom edge up to get around the plastic.

The driver's side will have an antenna to contend with too on some models.


Refit is reverse of above. I didn't use any more silastic but did put lanolin on the newly exposed metal where some of the silastic had come off.
Also pay attention to panel gap. Put all the screws/bolts in loose at first to make sure they line up and then as said pay attention to panel gap.

I did the passenger side front guard in about 1 hour all up. Didn't do the driver's side guard as I figure with the minimal rust I found on this side it can wait a week or so.

[cucinadio]

The little pipe you mention is a drain pipe. I think it is another drain for the under windscreen area.

As for step by step:

1. Remove the blinker by pulling on the spring on the back of it.
2. Remove the small nut and bolt that hold the plastic grille part that sits under the blinker.
3. Remove the nut and bolt that holds the bottom edge of the guard to the plastic channel that runs along under the doors and guard.
4. Remove the 4 bolts that are visible when you open the door.
5. Remove the six? screws that run across the top of the guard under the bonnet lip.
6. Reach up behind the guard and pop out the blicker and remove it.
7. Gently wiggle the guard off. It is held on by silastic that is under the top screws and inside door area bolts.

The driver's side will have an antenna to contend with too on some models.


Refit is reverse of above. I didn't use any more silastic but did put lanolin on the newly exposed metal where some of the silastic had come off.
Also pay attention to panel gap. Put all the screws/bolts in loose at first to make sure they line up and then as said pay attention to panel gap.

I did the passenger side front guard in about 1 hour all up. Didn't do the driver's side guard as I figure with the minimal rust I found on this side it can wait a week or so.


yhea ok smarty pants :p said sorry i didnt get to it :(
but good work ute :twobeers: your effort makes this site all the worth while :D

cheers

matt

[Utemad]

yhea ok smarty pants :p said sorry i didnt get to it

Don't worry about it. It was a piece of cake. Just thought I'd quickly write something as it is good to read stuff like that when you are at work contemplating a job on the weekend :BigThumb:

[cucinadio]

Don't worry about it. It was a piece of cake. Just thought I'd quickly write something as it is good to read stuff like that when you are at work contemplating a job on the weekend :BigThumb:


mate that cool I'm loving this forum, better than any other Ive ever been involved with :D

cheers

[cucinadio]

dead set I'm going to scream :wallbash: i just got home (****ing down rain) from picking the kids up from school and left the truck in the driveway for a few min :wallbash: came out to drive it into the garage and low and bloody behold :mad: water in the foot well "WTF" is going on :censored::censored::censored::censored::censored: :wallbash::wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:


god help me

cheers

[incisor]

mate, buy a fender! its a feature then not something needing a fix :P

look on the bright side, that post was so easy to read it was a pleasure to read ;) apart from the bad news it contained of course...

[cucinadio]

mate, buy a fender! its a feature then not something needing a fix :P

look on the bright side, that post was so easy to read it was a pleasure to read ;) apart from the bad news it contained of course...

mate thanks ;)
i would buy a fender in a minute ,if the swmbo would let me, she likes the finer thing in life so such the "disco"
LS of course :D

cheers

p.s the missus was standing behind me when i wrote this and asked what swmbo means, so i had to tell her and she comes out with
" you got that f%$^%$# right and don't forget it " :D
cheers

[incisor]

hahahahaha

well done :P

i'm lucky mine prefers defenders over discos and rangies...

[Utemad]

If you are getting heaps of water into the footwell then it must be channeling it in somewhere if you follow me.

So I'd be thinking that possibly there is a rust hole in the water chamber thingo under the windsreen. Get a little torch and have a good look in there. Also pull the glovebox out and see if you can see where it is coming from.

You've already removed the inner guard and sealed that up so unlikely to be in that region. Did you seal up that plug behind the kick trim like Ron did?

Also does the carpet get wet from above or is it running in on the panels and going under the carpet and seeping up?

[cucinadio]

If you are getting heaps of water into the footwell then it must be channeling it in somewhere if you follow me.

So I'd be thinking that possibly there is a rust hole in the water chamber thingo under the windsreen. Get a little torch and have a good look in there. Also pull the glovebox out and see if you can see where it is coming from.

You've already removed the inner guard and sealed that up so unlikely to be in that region. Did you seal up that plug behind the kick trim like Ron did?

Also does the carpet get wet from above or is it running in on the panels and going under the carpet and seeping up?


Did you seal up that plug behind the kick trim like Ron did?

yes very much !!

the water seems to be channeling down from right where the dash bolts to the side wall and down the panel on the inside ???:confused:

bloody hell i don't know Ive done so much and to no avail :mad:

cheers

[Utemad]

In that case I'd be checking the join of the water catcher under windscreen thingo (what is the name for that?) and where that big hole is that drains it between the inner and outer guard. Maybe there is a rust hole or dodgy sealant. Either that or the windscreen is leaking but didn't you look into that originally?

[adnic]

i feel your pain..
my disco is like a duck pond at the moment & like you i am trying to track it down.
the front footwells on bith sides are getting run off into them so i am betting on the windscreen, although like yours i reckon it is coming from the firewll join also.
let me know if you have any more luck than me & together we will keep the silcone industry strong!!
oh yeah my defender leaks too but then..it's a defender!:p

[dungarover]

Sounds like something that has been carried over from the old Rangies. Both my blue and project tight **** leak (one in the footwell, the other through the windscreen).

Good luck in finding it.

Trav

[cucinadio]

In that case I'd be checking the join of the water catcher under windscreen thingo (what is the name for that?) and where that big hole is that drains it between the inner and outer guard. Maybe there is a rust hole or dodgy sealant. Either that or the windscreen is leaking but didn't you look into that originally?



ok guys ! i was so mad i had to drive to marybrother for some kfc :D

heres what iv done in the past few weeks

1 resealed all the windscreen top, bottom,sides,

2 took pelenium cover off and checked the heater/aircon air intake and made up a plastic cover for it so if it was where the water was getting in ?,it wouldn't !!

3 took off front panels and, well you all no that one;)



so I'm now at a loss :mad::(;)

cheers

[cucinadio]

hey guys,

l was looking on the discoweb site and found this pic !!
(its the roof rail at the front, look at the gap in the roof)
could the leak be possibly coming through here?? and tracking its way down the window piller?
possibly a worn out sealing foam?

cheers

[Utemad]

Mine doesn't have roof rails so I don't know if that is a problem area or not. My money is still on the windscreen seal or beneath the windscreen somewhere.

I don't suppose it is a blocked overflowing air con unit is it?

[cucinadio]

Mine doesn't have roof rails so I don't know if that is a problem area or not. My money is still on the windscreen seal or beneath the windscreen somewhere.

I don't suppose it is a blocked overflowing air con unit is it?


how could it be a block overflow if it running down on the sides ? :confused:

i was looking at it in the rain (got soaked) today and was noticing that the water was running off the front the roof water channel, running about only 15cm down the front window channel and spilling over the edge of the side of the widow pillar.
lt was then was channeling straight into the door seal and down the front of the door seal channel if that makes sense! ;) when l felt down and under the rubber door seal running down the front of the body in the door space it was very wet and still some water gathered down the seal and the seal around the area that the door bracket run into was soaked through! ;) if that all makes sense, I'm wondering whether the water is forcing its way passed the (lets face it, old enough to be replaced) door seal and channeling its way into the hole around where the door bracket goes in heres a pic of where l mean :confused:

cheers

[Aaron]

Self saucing :P

[cucinadio]

Self saucing :P


???????????????????????? ;)

cheers

[cucinadio]

ok the prob has been solved once and for all ...thanks for the help guys....
on the way home from the GC a few weeks ago we coped a rock from a truck top right corner ...caused a crack down three quarters of the windscreen...we had it replaced and when it was in getting done the guy asked who put the last one in ..don’t know well he stuffed it who ever it was had obviously never done a disco befor:confused:..i just agreed ...after the job ..it has rained a fare bit and the wife has had the baby up to rocky to visit fam and it has been sitting in the rain a lot ....after witch normally there has been a couple of cups of water in the footwells..Well no more it hasn’t leaked a drop since the new windscreen has gone in :D...:mad:..and after all that it was the bloody windscreen after all ..ggggrrrrrr...:D

cheers guys for your help

[clean32]

I took the carpets out of my daughters and hit them with the high pressure water cleaner. Boy, that shifted the red pindam from the Kimberley! They look good now.

Here underlay at the rear seat footwell was so wet it had gone mouldy and made the carpet black from mould, too. I hosed off the underlay and carpets after treating them with bleach.


Just a note, Bleach is not so good on mold, in some cases it can even work as a food for it. Best to use alcohol to kill mold, specially that poisonous black stuff

[Grover-98]

My front foot wells are also damp well...the driver side feels damp all of the time and i have tried and tried to dry iy (i currently have all the doors open and the sun is beaming onto the foot well.

But the strangest thing is the passenger foot well, it feels dry all the time! iv never felt it damp...but if i leave a pair of socks or shirt or anything which would absorb water and come back in the morning (no rain) they will be drenched! its the strangest thing! :(

[Mudsloth]

Hey, i drowned my disco once (see the bushbashs page on you tube), i think you'll find the underlay is soaked, this is very heavy spongy stuff and holds water for a very long time. You will have to take your carpets out to dry them properly. This is actually very easy to do. The downside is if you want to dry the underlay you will either have to take out your center console and dash, the carpet runs that far up and is secured with the dash mounting bolts, or will have to cut it. I suggest you get onto this quickly, mine was wet for a month and rusted very badly. Oh yeah, if you want to see what the drowned disco looks like now go to YouTube - mudsloth's Channel (http://au.youtube.com/mudsloth)

Good luck

Adam

[clean32]

we used to pick up dehumdifiers from the local hire place, leave it running in the back over night, that drys everything out,