Handbreak problem

[disco_thrasher]

yesterday i was out on a mates property enjoying the joy of owning a LR d2 td5 ..when i went to pull up the hand break and a clunk noise ,now the is no handbreak and no pressure on the handle there is a wear mark thru the instalation and black casing coming from the cab to the handbreak drum been rubbing on i pretruding bolt ,i think thats what caused the cable to snap is this a hard fix and can some one please give me a few steps on what to do.. thanks
kelvin

[langy]

Take one end of the rear propshaft off, and then the brake drum - you'll see the rear end of the cable - it's just like normal drum brakes. The front end comes out with two circlips.

[shorty943]

Take one end of the rear propshaft off, and then the brake drum - you'll see the rear end of the cable - it's just like normal drum brakes. The front end comes out with two circlips.


Or, take the whole lot off, and fit a disk parking brake, to the rear diff pinion.
No cables to snag. Less chance of prop-shaft breakage, due to forgetfulness, or emergency\playful use.


I'm working on a modified, motorcycle hydraulic system, for a disk parking brake. At the moment I am leaning towards the bike system for sensitivity, so the disk parking brake, can be used as an emergency stopping brake as well. A nice big disk from a Harley should be strong enough. Moto Guzzi, make nice "linked" braking systems, (Brembo brakes) that can be played with. Powerful too.

But, mines a series model, with rod linkages, and yours is a cabled disco.
Can still be converted to a disk parking brake, and they are on the market.

[BigJon]

I'm working on a modified, motorcycle hydraulic system, for a disk parking brake. .

Just for your information, park brake (emergency brake) systems must be mechanical in operation, not hydraulic.

[harry]

you will need to pop the hand brake lever boot off to get to the circlip and also to release the outer cable to pull ot out to replace it as it was the fault that let the inner rust or chafe and break.
you can get the centre console switch panel out quite easily

[Blknight.aus]

you can do it in reverse

its acceptable to have a spring applied brake that is released by pretty much any medium you like be it air, electrics. hydraulic or mechanical linkage.

[awabbit6]

Just for your information, park brake (emergency brake) systems must be mechanical in operation, not hydraulic.


you can do it in reverse

its acceptable to have a spring applied brake that is released by pretty much any medium you like be it air, electrics. hydraulic or mechanical linkage.

My understanding is that (in QLD at least) a 'park brake' must be mechanical. I went through this with my rally car. A hydraulic handbrake isn't acceptable even with a rachet system.

Just re-read what you posted Dave. I can see that a system like that could be acceptable.

[shorty943]

Just for your information, park brake (emergency brake) systems must be mechanical in operation, not hydraulic.


Noted BigJon, thanks.

Back to my original idea of a marine "Morse Cable" control.
Nice and big and strong. I like that.

And a big heavy disk brake from a Harley Davidson front end.

[timberwolf_302]

Bit of a red herring...but has anyone here ever tried to do a hand brake turn in a Land Rover? I normally wouldnt even think of it considering the type of hand brake and diff they have but;

The reason i ask, is i was watching an episode of "Police Rescue" and in one scene 'Mickey' (Gary Sweet's character) was driving a GQ Patrol (which also uses a transmission brake like Land Rovers), and he was called back to base...he got the s*its and reefed on the handbrake and performed a very nice 180. I am sure they have an LSD in the rear of them, so i can see why both wheels locked up.

I am sure if you did do that in a Land Rover the tailshaft would probably snap...or maybe the cross pin in the diff would snap (non salisbury)...or maybe if they all hold up the inside wheel would lock up, the outside wheel would keep spinning and you would run off the road.

I feel like a d*ckhead posting this.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

how would the LSD affect the handbrake?

anyway the turn itself is easy enough,,
the question is why?
if you just want to turn around and stop,
then fine yank on the handbrake, adjust speed of swing to position required, wait till it stops.
Bit hit and miss really, once the wheels are locked its a straight question of physics,, hold the wheel, hold the handbrake, wait for the outcome.

If you are in a hurry to be somewhere the yank is only to start the swing, and "release" the driving (rear)wheels from being straight ahead,, once the swing has started(actually before) select first and pop the clutch, this continues the swing untill sideways momentum is overcome by forward drive,, which, if you've done it right, means very little slowing down, and the most important bit

you should never not be in control,,



so did they show the expert policeman transition from stationary rear tyres to full blown blue bags of smoke and noise??:cool:

[shorty943]

you should never not be in control,,







I think I know where I'm going wrong now.:D:D:D