Supercharging a Rover V8

[sclarke]

Questions to those who have done this and to those who know of one.

I am thinking of a Street Toy, not a LR, but a Vitesse or sim SD1 Rover....

Rover 3.5 or 3.9 V8 as the base model....

So what Blower has been used?
Pulley size? Belt size?
Manifold? What did you get?
Carb or injection?
Mounting it?
bonnet clearance in a Rangie / Disco? Was there a problem?
What boost were you running?
Est HP?
How did you Decompress the Engine to run the Blower????

So many questions, Not enough answers....
Ritters wont tell me, just charge......

Steve

[LandyAndy]

Hi Steve
Not exactly what you were asking,but buy this sounds pretty good.Would mean a visit to WA:D:D:D:D:D
LROCWA Forum (http://www.lrocwa.org.au/forum/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=parts;action=display;num=1199856985 )
Andrew

[Ging]

Dont have any experience of supercharged rovers but i did own a professionally converted TR7 which had a 3.9 pushing out just about 300 bhp/300lbs per ft. (I have pics if you're interested).The engine was put together by John Eales (now JE Engineering) Awesome fun. It was done a good few years ago now but had forged pistons, nimonic valves, fast road cam, uprated oil pump, balanced and blueprinted, holley 390cfm carb i believe it had an extra metering body. The edelbrock 500 is a better choice nowadays apparently. But i reckon the four twin choke dellortos i saw on a Morgan in JEs workshop would be more fun:twisted:
Not sure what your reasoning is for a supercharger or the power you had in mind but there is a lot you can do with them if your not dead set on the blower.
Duncan

[sclarke]

Hoping to get enough HP to push it down the quarter in under 12's...

Thats about 500hp +

No Rover V8 with NA will acheive that, Repco Brabham got close... but i'm not spending $50k

[rovercare]

Put a Gen 4 6l in it, seriously, still alloy and you'll get close to flat 12's if you can get traction with a decent exhaust, tune and a lighter car, and cost less or similar

[sclarke]

Put a Gen 4 6l in it, seriously, still alloy and you'll get close to flat 12's if you can get traction with a decent exhaust, tune and a lighter car, and cost less or similar

Not going to happen, This car is all about making a Rover go, not putting a Gen 3 in it.
Everyone puts gen 3's in there cars.

I thought you might be able to answer some of my questions as you claim to have a supercharged rangie.

[camel_landy]

Charger or turbo???

The only reason I ask is that I saw this for sale the other day. :)

Rover V8 Twin Turbos. (http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/316448.htm)

M

[rovercare]

Not going to happen, This car is all about making a Rover go, not putting a Gen 3 in it.
Everyone puts gen 3's in there cars.

I thought you might be able to answer some of my questions as you claim to have a supercharged rangie.

Claim??

You wont make the horsepower your after with an Eaton M90

You need to use a centrifugal blower and intercooler, low comp motors will be fine, just the heads are ****

[camel_landy]

Just done a quick search on my Westfield forum and come up with these for you...

Supercharged V8 Westfield... (http://www.pistonheads.com/clubmans/default.asp'storyId=5524) :burnrubber:

Comparison figures... (http://www.seight.com/perf.html) of different engines, timings, etc... in similar cars.

M

[Ging]

The Janspeed twin turbo set up was on a 3619cc engine, it put out somewhere over 500 bhp and was clocked at 201 mph. Not too reliable back then and lack of funding didnt help. Have seen a 450 bhp set up also with twin turbos.
Or... YouTube - COSWORTH DOLOMITE NEW BIG VALVE CYL HEAD ENGINE START UP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTLXFH4-rDQ)

[sclarke]

Claim??

You wont make the horsepower your after with an Eaton M90

You need to use a centrifugal blower and intercooler, low comp motors will be fine, just the heads are ****

Point taken, but i'm sure you can shed some light on the Manifold, Cam, Fuel system, Brakets, Pulleys, Belts ect....

[Bigbjorn]

Point taken, but i'm sure you can shed some light on the Manifold, Cam, Fuel system, Brakets, Pulleys, Belts ect....

Clarkie, supercharging a production engine that was never designed that way is a complex and frustrating business. Particularly so if you plan to use high boost, above 8-10 psi, and drive it on the street.

I suggest you buy a text book quality publication, Supercharged! Design, Testing and Installation of Supercharger Systems, by C. Bell, Bentley Publishers, 2001. Read, absorb, understand, and then decide if you want to proceed further.

[Lucus]

Clarkie do you definatly want a supercharger or just enough boost to make your 500hp?

IMHO a well turbo'd Rover V8 would make 500hp with a lot less stress on the donk than a supercharged motor.

You would be able to intercool it much easier (compared to an eaton, same same with a powerdyne of any centrifugal)

The right sized turbo(s) would give good boost response from 2000rpm, upwards and with the right exhaust housings your parasitic loss compared to a supercharger would be bugger all.

it all depends what you want to do with the car i spose. If the 12 sec 1/4 is the main aim i would definatly turbo it. You'd be surprissed how streetable a turbo'd motor can be.

just my opinion tho

Luke

[sclarke]

Why do i want a supercharger?
The **** factor of it wheezing and instant HP

As some others already have Superchargers i thought they could shed some light, but the answers are not that forth coming.

Does this forum only contain WebWheelers?

[DRanged]

Send a PM to The 109, he has a s/charged 3.5 in his hybrid 109.

Justin


There you go a straight answer.I am with you Clarkie most people give you an answer you did,nt ask for:cool:

Justin

[rovercare]

Why do i want a supercharger?
The **** factor of it wheezing and instant HP

As some others already have Superchargers i thought they could shed some light, but the answers are not that forth coming.

Does this forum only contain WebWheelers?

I can answer all the question you like...............But a roots style blower wont make the horsepower you want, so their isn't much point

Fuel systems? EFI? LPG? manifolds? Centrifugal? Roots? Screw? Intercooler? Aftercooler? Engine management? whats gonna sort your timing?...................

You need to answer some question first yourself before I can help, without having to delve into 4000 alternatives, If you wanted alternatives, I gave you some practical, economic ones to extract reliable horspower, with better fuel economy.........but you didn't like them

I actually agree and disagree with Brians advice, but his suggestion to buy the book is spot on, you need to learn about Volumetric efficiencies, compression ratios, charge rates, etc

More than I can be bothered typing, your more than welcome to drop in for a beer, have a look, a drive and I can take you around and look at another blown Rover motor, can even pick your mates diffs up:D

[rovercare]

Clarkie do you definatly want a supercharger or just enough boost to make your 500hp?

IMHO a well turbo'd Rover V8 would make 500hp with a lot less stress on the donk than a supercharged motor.

You would be able to intercool it much easier (compared to an eaton, same same with a powerdyne of any centrifugal)

The right sized turbo(s) would give good boost response from 2000rpm, upwards and with the right exhaust housings your parasitic loss compared to a supercharger would be bugger all.

it all depends what you want to do with the car i spose. If the 12 sec 1/4 is the main aim i would definatly turbo it. You'd be surprissed how streetable a turbo'd motor can be.

just my opinion tho

Luke

More sound advice, but its not what you wanted to hear

[PhilipA]

Have a look at the RPI site in UK. They claim that supercharging such as Eaton type is not succesful in a Rover v8 due to poor fuel distribution in the injection manifold causing detonation and blown engines.

I have thought about it a bit, and I reckon the way to overcome this would be to use a carby manifold and machine the centre to mount the supercharger and then add bosses for injectors on the runners. The carby manifold would have pretty good distribution. It would cost a bit in machine work but is very doable. A Commodore Eaton should just bolt on to a suitable mount and a Commodore ECU will be able to be adapted.

With regards to turbos, JE offered a kit in the early eighties but gave up as they did not sell. AFAIR they sold two.

The other cheap possibility is a Toyota supercharger , but they are a bit small. They should give good torque but would have little top end as they are sized for an admittedly highly efficient 2 litre. Just a bracket on the side, and an aftermarket ECU would run it.

But as you have found, unless you buy a kit such as the Sprintex one, you will be doing a lot of experimental work.
John Davis had I think a Sprintex on his Kit thing( Overlander?), so Bruce will know of the pitfalls.
Regards Philip A

[sclarke]

More sound advice, but its not what you wanted to hear

No its what i wanted to hear.

But i would like to know what others have done and the Pro's and Cons.
What has been done to yours??
What blower? What fuel system are you running? Where did you get the manifold from?

I have a book on Turbo's and Blowers From the days when i used to play with Turbo Volvo's

[PhilipA]

Just remembered that Ward at Graeme Cooper has fitted one to an SD1.

He liked it but said it could not be sold commercially, due to warranty, and that it had a few driveability bugs.
I think he used a Toyota one but not sure.
Regards Philip A

[rovercare]

No its what i wanted to hear.

But i would like to know what others have done and the Pro's and Cons.
What has been done to yours??
What blower? What fuel system are you running? Where did you get the manifold from?

I have a book on Turbo's and Blowers From the days when i used to play with Turbo Volvo's

Eaton M90, SS commodore pump, malpassi adjustable reg, the injectors are capable of making like 150hp, which it wont make on 5psi, so to go 10 psi, new injectors, the manifold came with it, but could have one machined up, but it doesn't matter, because it will be lucky to make 200hp at 10psi, and reliability becomes an issue as it superheats the air charge, good for torque and a 4x4 (the blower, not hot air), not what you want

[dobbo]

Do you really need to spend that much to get 500hp out of a 3.5?

I just thought you changed to an alternate fuel supply to produce the extra power.

Try running it on Bull shoot, the best part there is a lot of it available in this very thread and it's free, you just have to filter the good stuff from the bad. A good Bull shoot filter is the humble mpeg or jpeg file.

[sclarke]

it would be running AvGas or Metho.........

So that will help

**** it, GM 471 and big $$$$ on the engine...

[Bulldog]

This isn't much help but its the best i can do ;)

I have a book called "Tuning Rover V8 Engines" which has a (small) section on superchargers and everything else possible for competition performance (unfortunately just night time reading for me, and dreaming :(). You can borrow it if you want.

Also, Rowan at Midas in Lilydale had a supercharged Rangie ute (think it had a 4.6L in it). Might be of some help.

[sclarke]

This isn't much help but its the best i can do ;)

I have a book called "Tuning Rover V8 Engines" which has a (small) section on superchargers and everything else possible for competition performance (unfortunately just night time reading for me, and dreaming :(). You can borrow it if you want.

Also, Rowan at Midas in Lilydale had a supercharged Rangie ute (think it had a 4.6L in it). Might be of some help.

Got that book, but Mick leant it....

[rovercare]

Try running it on Bull shoot, the best part there is a lot of it available in this very thread and it's free,.

Please enlighten us further as to whos posts appear to be bull shoot?? they all seem pretty relevant:confused:

[rovercare]

This isn't much help but its the best i can do ;)

I have a book called "Tuning Rover V8 Engines" which has a (small) section on superchargers and everything else possible for competition performance (unfortunately just night time reading for me, and dreaming :(). You can borrow it if you want.

Also, Rowan at Midas in Lilydale had a supercharged Rangie ute (think it had a 4.6L in it). Might be of some help.

Rowan Canavon, yellow tray?

[Bigbjorn]

Clarkie, an Eaton M90 won't pump enough air to make that sort of horsepower without running it well in excess of the maker's recommended maximum speed. The book by C.Bell that I recommend is 338 pages, also have a look at the supercharging section in Automobile Engineer's Reference Book, Molloy & Lanchester, George Newnes Ltd. Pitstop or Motorbooks should have the first and any tertiary library the second.

[dobbo]

Please enlighten us further as to whos posts appear to be bull shoot?? they all seem pretty relevant:confused:


When are we going to see a picture, mpeg or anything of this supercharged Rangie of yours?

[rovercare]

When are we going to see a picture, mpeg or anything of this supercharged Rangie of yours?

Why would I bother, you've already assumed I'm full of ****??

[rovercare]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/01/434.jpg (http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r107/Rovercare/DSC01232.jpg)

What that funny looking thing ontop of that motor??, with a familiar looking white RR tray in the background??

Maybe when I've got time at home, I'll take an underbonnet picture of the same thing in the engine bay, with the current days paper as proof:p

[rangieman]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/01/434.jpg (http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r107/Rovercare/DSC01232.jpg)

What that funny looking thing ontop of that motor??, with a familiar looking white RR tray in the background??

Maybe when I've got time at home, I'll take an underbonnet picture of the same thing in the engine bay, with the current days paper as proof:p
Proof of life i think they call it:Rolling:

Dobbo matt is the can do guy dont tempt him , cause he can and will do most things:cool:

[Grimace]

When are we going to see a picture, mpeg or anything of this supercharged Rangie of yours?

:wheelchair:

[dobbo]

Proof of life i think they call it:Rolling:

Dobbo matt is the can do guy dont tempt him , cause he can and will do most things:cool:

It has been hinted at so many times over the last few months by a lot of members.

Finally we get a picture. And it's just placed there on top

Now where is my leaf blower?

[rangieman]

It has been hinted at so many times over the last few months by a lot of members.

Finally we get a picture. And it's just placed there on top

Now where is my leaf blower?
It lives mate :cool:

[rovercare]

It has been hinted at so many times over the last few months by a lot of members.

Finally we get a picture. And it's just placed there on top

Now where is my leaf blower?

Finally a picture??? Its been there since september,

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members-rides/42579-few-pics-my-collection.html

Your questioning my integrity of things done, I ain't seen anything of yours?

So many times? So many members? Proof?

[dobbo]

Finally a picture??? Its been there since september,

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members-rides/42579-few-pics-my-collection.html

Your questioning my integrity of things done, I ain't seen anything of yours?

So many times? So many members? Proof?

What exactly have I done that you want pictures of?

[rovercare]

What exactly have I done that you want pictures of?

Exactly my point, I don't know what you've done, or you don't want to put up details incase you get chastised about them:D

[matbor]

Jeremy Clarkson 5.2 Rover SD1 race car by RPI Engineering

YouTube - Jeremy Clarkson 5.2 Rover SD1 race car by RPI Engineering. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlmW8KrzxDo)

[rangieman]

Jeremy Clarkson 5.2 Rover SD1 race car by RPI Engineering

YouTube - Jeremy Clarkson 5.2 Rover SD1 race car by RPI Engineering. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlmW8KrzxDo)
Now thats a sweet sounding motor:D

[sclarke]

Matt,
This is why alot of people are asking the question in if it is real or not

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/01/392.jpg

Look at the picture....
Rusted pulleys on the V8, Blower sitting on a pile of rags and bolts hanging out of it.
No manifold for intake or between blower and engine is visible.
Its just sitting there.....

You quote that its been in the white ute and also its not in the Blue beast, you quote that Thommo towed you at one stage, but when i asked him, he said he was not aware of it being blown.

I've asked you in this tread multiple questions with No answers.

Simple ones...... like the Belt size, pulley size and what injection system your running, bonnet clearance, manifold, how does the vac advance run on boost, how does the vacuum brakes work on boost??

To shut us all up, answer the simple questions and we want pix....

This is not the 1st time you have been asked for pix and specs.

A few years back on 4wdmonthly forum you said you had a Twin Turbo V8 Rangie, lots of questions were asked, but no answers or Pix.

I'm not having a go at you, i'm asking a question as i want to know how you did it all... or was it built before you got it and you dont know???

[Vern]

Yeah Matt, where is this so called blown blue hiline, your so full of it:p

[haydofly]

The ones i've seen with this blower used standard manifold, machined down about 10mm. Adaptor plate, with blower on top. An elbow/inlet goes to the back of the blower. Standard injection with a variable fuel pressure reg that increases fuel pressure with boost. Works well on a 3.9 but a bit small for the 4.6. I'm pretty sure its the blower used on the 3.8v6 commodores a few years back.

[Bulldog]

Rowan Canavon, yellow tray?

Yep, that's him. Was my mechanic for a while. Nice bloke.

[Rangier Rover]

Matt,
This is why alot of people are asking the question in if it is real or not

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/01/392.jpg

Look at the picture....
Rusted pulleys on the V8, Blower sitting on a pile of rags and bolts hanging out of it.
No manifold for intake or between blower and engine is visible.
Its just sitting there.....

You quote that its been in the white ute and also its not in the Blue beast, you quote that Thommo towed you at one stage, but when i asked him, he said he was not aware of it being blown.

I've asked you in this tread multiple questions with No answers.

Simple ones...... like the Belt size, pulley size and what injection system your running, bonnet clearance, manifold, how does the vac advance run on boost, how does the vacuum brakes work on boost??

To shut us all up, answer the simple questions and we want pix....

This is not the 1st time you have been asked for pix and specs.

A few years back on 4wdmonthly forum you said you had a Twin Turbo V8 Rangie, lots of questions were asked, but no answers or Pix.

I'm not having a go at you, i'm asking a question as i want to know how you did it all... or was it built before you got it and you dont know???


You think it should look like this:twisted:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

This is a M90 on a 3.9. Sadly the kit is no longer made. The M90 is cheap and easy to get.
Cheers RR

[rovercare]

Yeah Matt, where is this so called blown blue hiline, your so full of it:p

:D:D:D

[rovercare]

Matt,
This is why alot of people are asking the question in if it is real or not

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/01/392.jpg

Look at the picture....
Rusted pulleys on the V8, Blower sitting on a pile of rags and bolts hanging out of it.
No manifold for intake or between blower and engine is visible.
Its just sitting there.....

You quote that its been in the white ute and also its not in the Blue beast, you quote that Thommo towed you at one stage, but when i asked him, he said he was not aware of it being blown.

I've asked you in this tread multiple questions with No answers.

Simple ones...... like the Belt size, pulley size and what injection system your running, bonnet clearance, manifold, how does the vac advance run on boost, how does the vacuum brakes work on boost??

To shut us all up, answer the simple questions and we want pix....

This is not the 1st time you have been asked for pix and specs.

A few years back on 4wdmonthly forum you said you had a Twin Turbo V8 Rangie, lots of questions were asked, but no answers or Pix.

I'm not having a go at you, i'm asking a question as i want to know how you did it all... or was it built before you got it and you dont know???

This is getting Ridiculous, send me your Mobile phone Number and i'll send you a video of it first running

[rangieman]

This is getting Ridiculous, send me your Mobile phone Number and i'll send you a video of it first running
Now thats proof of life:Rolling:;)

[rovercare]

Now thats proof of life:Rolling:;)

Now its not, I didn't post pictures here;)

[rovercare]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/01/392.jpg

See Chris, I just grabbed a rover motor and sat an Eaton M90 ontop of it, with a rag to hide the standard manifold, to look good:D

[rangieman]

Hey i like , it looks the goods to me , dont worry i know what your capable of you dont have to prove anything as far as im concerned;)

[dobbo]

Hey i like , it looks the goods to me , dont worry i know what your capable of you dont have to prove anything as far as im concerned;)

Likewise, I just wanted to see a few pix or a video or such, I cannot see whats the issue posting them on here?

[rangieman]

Likewise, I just wanted to see a few pix or a video or such, I cannot see whats the issue posting them on here?
It just seems the band wagon of prove it , has gathered pace from all angles:cool:

[rovercare]

Likewise, I just wanted to see a few pix or a video or such, I cannot see whats the issue posting them on here?

Because I cant post videos, I haven't had time to sort pics, I f I could be ****ed with the antoganism, plus I'm to drunk now, been working on rangies after 12,5hrs dayshift............or have I? no proof-No pics

PM me your number real quick and I'll send a Vid, Only initial start and run, not moving though, Good enough?

Damien seen it on the Dyno the other day, and Chris has seen my ****, Like I said, this is Ridiculous, I left school in year 10, 8 years ago, now I'm back:D

[rovercare]

You could even ask 51Jay, If I really bought it from him??:D

[dobbo]

Thanks for the pictures,

Rovercare sorry about the bull comments they were a tad harse

[rovercare]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/technical-chatter/6147d1200402542-supercharging-rover-v8-7994_1.jpg)

Small world, that's a mates, just pulling it out to sell to another mate, getting replaced by a mopar:D

I think I'm getting the job of fitting it this blown rover motor to the new owners:(

Anyone go to Vicwinch?? both this red 2 door and me were there..............of course its a lie, no pics;)

[rovercare]

Thanks for the pictures,

Rovercare sorry about the bull comments they were a tad harse

Still waiting for you PM with a mobile number? off to bed in a minute, be quick, or i'll send it tomorrow, maybe you can post it up for me?

[hiline]

Thanks for the pictures,

Rovercare sorry about the bull comments they were a tad harse

righto post them up for all to see :D;)

[rovercare]

Matt,
This is why alot of people are asking the question in if it is real or not



Look at the picture....
Rusted pulleys on the V8, Blower sitting on a pile of rags and bolts hanging out of it.
No manifold for intake or between blower and engine is visible.
Its just sitting there.....

You quote that its been in the white ute and also its not in the Blue beast, you quote that Thommo towed you at one stage, but when i asked him, he said he was not aware of it being blown.

I've asked you in this tread multiple questions with No answers.

Simple ones...... like the Belt size, pulley size and what injection system your running, bonnet clearance, manifold, how does the vac advance run on boost, how does the vacuum brakes work on boost??

To shut us all up, answer the simple questions and we want pix....

This is not the 1st time you have been asked for pix and specs.

A few years back on 4wdmonthly forum you said you had a Twin Turbo V8 Rangie, lots of questions were asked, but no answers or Pix.

I'm not having a go at you, i'm asking a question as i want to know how you did it all... or was it built before you got it and you dont know???

Just some correction hoping you'll pull your head out your ass

Its never been in the white ute, that'd be why thommo never knew it was blown,,,,because it wasn't, it had an N/A 351 windsor, I HAD a holley blower for it, which when I decided to part the ute, I sold and paid for the Blue hiline AND the ZBlown 3.9 from 51Jay.....slack I know, but ya get that

When it had twin turbo's, BEFORE it was a cut down tray, I didn't own a camera, so sorry no pics

How about picking your mates diff's up and having a look for youself:eek:

[Rangier Rover]

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/technical-chatter/6147d1200402542t-supercharging-rover-v8-7994_1.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/technical-chatter/6147d1200402542-supercharging-rover-v8-7994_1.jpg)

Small world, that's a mates, just pulling it out to sell to another mate, getting replaced by a mopar:D

I think I'm getting the job of fitting it this blown rover motor to the new owners:(

Anyone go to Vicwinch?? both this red 2 door and me were there..............of course its a lie, no pics;)


Seems all true to me! I stuffed that last post up had probs with pics so I pulled it. I was looking at that blown motor for my 89. Looked a bit agricutural. I dont dought it works OK!. Dont have a spare M90 Set up do you?
Cheers RR.

[51jay]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/01/392.jpg

See Chris, I just grabbed a rover motor and sat an Eaton M90 ontop of it, with a rag to hide the standard manifold, to look good:D
Hmm! looks suspiciously like the supercharged 3.9 you bought from me. Pullies are rusted I'm ashamed to say because it was standing for some 8 months after removal from my vogue befor I retrieved it. It was a going concern when I had it removed in favour of a TDi 300 as I couldn't afford to run it (around 800Klms a week)

[rovercare]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/01/383.jpg (http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r107/Rovercare/100_0169.jpg)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/01/384.jpg (http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r107/Rovercare/100_0170.jpg)

And a Gen 3 in a Jag, just for good measure

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/02/164.jpg (http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r107/Rovercare/100_0173.jpg)

[rangieman]

Sorry i cant make the date out on the paper :rulez::tease::woot::oops2::eek2::censored::wasntm e:

[rovercare]

Sorry i cant make the date out on the paper :rulez::tease::woot::oops2::eek2::censored::wasntm e:

Meh, it wouldn't be enough proof anyway....Funny how I never recieved a PM from either of the twiddles with a Mobile number:D

[Lucus]

That looks photochopped to me........:p

[rovercare]

That looks photochopped to me........:p

:D:D:D

[hiline]

rovercare i bet that jag would go nice with the Gen 3 in it :burnrubber:

[rovercare]

rovercare i bet that jag would go nice with the Gen 3 in it :burnrubber:

Fun on-road toy:D

[hiline]

i had a xj12 years ago loved that car as well :D

well until it drop a valve guide:mad:

[Camo]

Ive got an M90 like new to suit a 4.6 rover

what would be needed to fit it to my old 3.9 in my rangie? (belts are different..not single like in the P38)

or best just to grab a secondhand 3.9 or 4.0 out of a disco?

Camo

[rovercare]

i had a xj12 years ago loved that car as well :D

well until it drop a valve guide:mad:

You must of spent some coin on cars when your were young, even a 2 door classic when you were 18 would have been worth some coin:eek:

Rangies Landies, Jags and a self admission of not being the most mechanically minded.........your a masochist:D

[Lucus]

Ive got an M90 like new to suit a 4.6 rover

what would be needed to fit it to my old 3.9 in my rangie? (belts are different..not single like in the P38)

or best just to grab a secondhand 3.9 or 4.0 out of a disco?

Camo

You should drop it all in the too hard basket and sell it too me for my 4.6......:angel:

[sclarke]

OK Matt, you did what was asked....
I now believe you have a Blown Rangie.

And it answers the questions on why you cant tell me what the specs are as you bought the engine blown.

Thats all you have to do, Say, i dont know as i bought it like that.

Was the Jag converted??? if not then what size is it and what drama did you have?
Auto? what kind?

Steve

[rovercare]

OK Matt, you did what was asked....
I now believe you have a Blown Rangie.

And it answers the questions on why you cant tell me what the specs are as you bought the engine blown.

Thats all you have to do, Say, i dont know as i bought it like that.

Was the Jag converted??? if not then what size is it and what drama did you have?
Auto? what kind?

Steve

I did the jag, LS1 from a VUII SS, with 4L60E, drama's just the usual, if your going to put a gen 3 in something I'll let you know more

I've done more than the odd engine conversion;)

And I do know what goes on with the blown motor, I just don't feel the need to answer your questions whilst

1. they're all antoganistic

2. You ain't going to achieve what you want with this setup

[hiline]

You must of spent some coin on cars when your were young, even a 2 door classic when you were 18 would have been worth some coin:eek:

Rangies Landies, Jags and a self admission of not being the most mechanically minded.........your a masochist:D


i worked hard as a kid ;)
but not on cars................

here are some of my jag pics just for proof :D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/01/364.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/01/365.jpg
even had the wheels chromed:angel:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/01/366.jpg

[sclarke]

I did the jag, LS1 from a VUII SS, with 4L60E, drama's just the usual, if your going to put a gen 3 in something I'll let you know more

I've done more than the odd engine conversion;)

And I do know what goes on with the blown motor, I just don't feel the need to answer your questions whilst

1. they're all antoganistic

2. You ain't going to achieve what you want with this setup

Thanks for that.
What did the Donk cost and how many KW's

[dobbo]

Still waiting for you PM with a mobile number? off to bed in a minute, be quick, or i'll send it tomorrow, maybe you can post it up for me?

sorry I missed your post. My mobile wont play Mpegs anyway. Thanks for the offer though.

[rovercare]

Thanks for that.
What did the Donk cost and how many KW's

Bought the wreck for 6k, sold enough to make 2k back, put cam and valve springs in, just shy of 300RWHP, span 2 big ends and 3 mains, my fault, fixed that, fried the auto, got that built, blew the diff up and just wrecked another jag and put that in

[Rangier Rover]

You should drop it all in the too hard basket and sell it too me for my 4.6......:angel:
No, you should get it for me:D

[rovercare]

i worked hard as a kid ;)
but not on cars................

here are some of my jag pics just for proof :D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/01/364.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/01/365.jpg
even had the wheels chromed:angel:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/01/366.jpg

:eek:Look at the Lx/H and the XB, still the jag would have been the flashest thing in the street

You must have been putting in the hard yards:)

[Rangier Rover]

I think we have wandered off topic a bit here. Back to Supercharging!!!!
I just got hold of a 4.6 with a mixed set up that does not work well.
Came with a donor rangie that some one has given up on. I wonder Why??
4.6 with 3.5 heads and 86 Efi :confused: I wonder why it won't run right!:D
I thought as Being a low Compresion would make a great donk for my 89. With eaton :cool:. I'm not after high end power. Just grin factor. Torque!
Have been searching for best fuel management system and Wolf 4 seems to be solution. Any other ideas? By the way I am serious. As is Rovercare. Some of you guys are in for a big suprise!;)
Cheers RR

[BigJon]

i worked hard as a kid ;)
but not on cars................

here are some of my jag pics just for proof :D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/01/364.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/01/365.jpg
even had the wheels chromed:angel:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/01/366.jpg

Looks like one of the Jags out of the Aussie movie "The Big Steal". :p

[mcrover]

If you are wanting advice from someone who has blown and turboed rover engines in several different way shapes and forms then speak with Mal.

Last time I was in there he had a twin turbo'd 3.9 on the engine stand that he had in his Bro's Disco at Wandin a couple of years ago which he is planning on puting in a boat.

He builds everything himself, manifolds etc so he knows what is involved from start to finish.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/victoria/46066-mornington-prestige.html

[Vern]

If you are wanting advice from someone who has blown and turboed rover engines in several different way shapes and forms then speak with Mal.

Last time I was in there he had a twin turbo'd 3.9 on the engine stand that he had in his Bro's Disco at Wandin a couple of years ago which he is planning on puting in a boat.

He builds everything himself, manifolds etc so he knows what is involved from start to finish.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/victoria/46066-mornington-prestige.html
Matt and I would have called in if we had of known that, we were across the road, and it looked like it was a ritters type of place from out the front.

[PeterM]

My brother is a mechanic who used to rebuild Gen 3s, he wouldn't put one in another vehicle, the production tolerances were too high so your chances of getting something good are pretty light on.

While I don't know if they are capable of turning 500hp, I understand the Sprintex chargers operate differently to the Eatons and other roots type blowers. While I can't remember what the difference is I believe that they are more efficient.

I'd dare say that a lot of ground could be made in getting the engine able to rev a bit more. It's still only a 2 valver so head work is a must to get the best flow possible. Upgraded ignition system, perhaps MSD? and a computer like a WOLF (3D should be fine and cheaper than 4) will allow for fuel and ignition mapping and running multiple maps. Also available with its own sensors.

Comp would be fine unless you go stupid but I have no idea what the ratings are on the rest of the engine internals. May turn out to be far too expensive to achieve.

[rovercare]

My brother is a mechanic who used to rebuild Gen 3s, he wouldn't put one in another vehicle, the production tolerances were too high so your chances of getting something good are pretty light on.



Yep, all the horror stories, belong with the early ones...........bit like when you ask someone about lard rovers in general hey:D

[mcrover]

Matt and I would have called in if we had of known that, we were across the road, and it looked like it was a ritters type of place from out the front.


I dont know what a ritters type place is meant to look like but Mals looks like a factory to me :D

[Vern]

Basically yuppie types of cars, no rovers with 35's etc...out front. It looked like it belonged in toorak, prestige place. but i did only have a quick glimps at the carpark.

[mcrover]

Basically yuppie types of cars, no rovers with 35's etc...out front. It looked like it belonged in toorak, prestige place. but i did only have a quick glimps at the carpark.

Well yeah your right there, if I want to see 35" tyres 4wd stuff I go and see Jamie's carpark as thats where his Disco is, Mal does do the odd properly used LR but mainly the boat dragging type but he does the performance stuff which is also pretty interesting but not my scene but still pretty awsome.

Great bloke to have a drink with as well, take Southern cans lol :p

[sclarke]

Found what i need... Why build my own??

PROJECT - 3500 ROVER P76 V8 SUPERCHARGED - eBay, Rover, Cars, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 07-Feb-08 15:16:47 AEDST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PROJECT-3500-ROVER-P76-V8-SUPERCHARGED_W0QQitemZ140202696129QQihZ004QQcatego ryZ136004QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/01/35.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/01/36.jpg

[matbor]

Found what i need... Why build my own??

PROJECT - 3500 ROVER P76 V8 SUPERCHARGED - eBay, Rover, Cars, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 07-Feb-08 15:16:47 AEDST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PROJECT-3500-ROVER-P76-V8-SUPERCHARGED_W0QQitemZ140202696129QQihZ004QQcatego ryZ136004QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/01/35.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/01/36.jpg

Nice.... do it, do it, do it..... :D:twisted:

[Bulldog]

I 2nd that: nice... do it.

I'll let YOU buy it, if you let ME come around for a look. Fair deal? :D:D:D:D:D

[moparrangie]

Oh thats just fully sic mate:burnrubber: and its red.. anyway i drove the twin turbo thing rovercare put together,made good power for the 2 days work it took for him to bash together pitty it was a ford. But he will cane me for going form a mopar to a efi 308 thats still not on the road after god knows how many years..

[sclarke]

It will be interesting to see what it sells for .... and what times he has run in it...

Might just put the donk in the County...

[rovercare]

Oh thats just fully sic mate:burnrubber: and its red.. anyway i drove the twin turbo thing rovercare put together,made good power for the 2 days work it took for him to bash together pitty it was a ford. But he will cane me for going form a mopar to a efi 308 thats still not on the road after god knows how many years..

Sad to see your old mustard of the road, how many years nearly 15?:(

[Mangie]

this works

[moparrangie]

yeah about 12 years and about 9 with the 318 in it. Do it right the first time and it will last years.

[SPROVER]

Ive got a Rover SD1 with a 3.9 and turbo charger.Its running straight gas with a Gas Research throttle body and has made 156 kw at the wheels.Which is over 300 hp at the engine.The torque is unbelievable and it would be perfect for a Rangie or Disco.It only runs low boost(5psi).If i was to do it again i would go injection for better tuning and a front mount cooler.And a lot more horse power.If your after a similar set up i know someone who has a turbo set up on a Rover V8.
Cheers

[tombraider]

Get two wheels... A good one will pull a nice 11 :D

M109R - PCIII, K&N Big Air Kit, Pipes.... 11.7 sec :cool:

[land rover Pretender]

G'day that blown rover on ebay Had a reserve of $9400
and i was told buy the owner it ran 11's

We have got a eaton blower on a Bush ranger with a 3.9l
can give you all specs ,Pulley size ,fuel system ect .if it will help
you out at all:)

Can post pics ,maybe vids if any one want them

Cheers Gaza

[land rover Pretender]

Opps double post

[cooper8888]

can u plz send me the images on my email?
aga_88@hotmail.com
thanks!

[uninformed]

from my limited knowledge of rover v8s, its there head design that lets them down most.

google Wildcat engines in the uk. i bet there massive dollars/pounds though.

some one here in another thread said about a company in the USA bringing out a new performance head on par with wildcats for less dollars... it is because the buick engine is the base for the rover


i would think that getting the engine to its best potential before forced induction would be they way to go.

Serg

[sclarke]

G'day that blown rover on ebay Had a reserve of $9400
and i was told buy the owner it ran 11's

We have got a eaton blower on a Bush ranger with a 3.9l
can give you all specs ,Pulley size ,fuel system ect .if it will help
you out at all:)

Can post pics ,maybe vids if any one want them

Cheers Gaza

WHAT a 2 tonne 4wd doing 11's.... not with a Rover V8 it wont...
from my knowledge on drag racing it takes about 800hp to get a 1.4tonne car to pull a 11's

So his Rover V8, blown can produce over 1000hp....

maybe its running 11's over the 8th... then i might belive it...

[SPROVER]

WHAT a 2 tonne 4wd doing 11's.... not with a Rover V8 it wont...
from my knowledge on drag racing it takes about 800hp to get a 1.4tonne car to pull a 11's

So his Rover V8, blown can produce over 1000hp....

maybe its running 11's over the 8th... then i might belive it...


That Rover he is talking about was an SD1 i think not a 4wd.And for a 1.4 ton car to do 11s only needs about 400-450hp to do 11s.Just look at all those little jap nissans and wrx cars.

[sclarke]

That Rover he is talking about was an SD1 i think not a 4wd.And for a 1.4 ton car to do 11s only needs about 400-450hp to do 11s.Just look at all those little jap nissans and wrx cars.

Still think he is dreaming

A-Spec Pro - Drag Racing Simulator (http://www.aspecpro.com/dragracingsimulator.html)

[stephenspann27]

Any Eaton 90 blown rover v8's out there in 2022? LS swaps are certainly getting popular in Disco's here in the states. I have two 4.0 rover V8's though.. and zero LS engines. It would be nice to fit a junk yard eaton to my rover 4.0 in my D1.

[Keithy P38]

I know of a supercharged P38 Range Rover 4.6 getting around. If my memory serves, it’s an Eaton M90. I’m not sure if he’s on the forum. Happy to contact him if you’re looking for information.

Cheers
Keithy

[MLD]

Is there an intercooler brick for the M90 and Rover heads? Without one, the intake temps would be performance harmful high.

[loanrangie]

Is there an intercooler brick for the M90 and Rover heads? Without one, the intake temps would be performance harmful high.Never been a problem in other roots type intake mounted blowers unless you are pushing big boost and trying to extract maximum power.