Change of job, need people to bounce the idea off

[amshaw]

Hi all,

Ive been offerd a new job. My currrent job is a security Patrol officer (no, not a bouncer)

Ive had a gut full of dealing with the dirtbags of this area, night shift all the time, cops etc and I was looking for a change but not sure what and I ran into our local Holden dealer owner one nght while doing my rounds.

He offerd me the used car sales job in Hamlton, and Im still thinking about it but need to talk about it here to get my head around the offer so I can make my mind up either way.

Ive done the whole for and against on paper thing, but I value members ideas so what do you think?

Sales job is only award wages at around the $16-$17 ph mark but I would get 10% of the profit margin on a sale, 9-5:30 Monday to Friday with one Saturday morning per month (9-12:30), a few shirts and use of a car from the lot, but Im guessing I will pay for fuel etc and the boss seems like a pretty good bloke, down to earth no BS (Ive had alot to do with him in the past) plus you dont last in any busness here if you rip people or stuff them around.........

As far as the security go's its getting rougher around here now , more drugs and more plain dickheads around, shiftwork all the time, boss's that are hopless in every way possible and most of the time a boring job, so Im over it after 6 years. And about the same money as the sales job, just 4 nights of 10hr shift's........

Also they selling about 10 cars per week at the moment without any staff at the Used car area (its 200m away from the main dealership) and the target is at least 3 per week, so I dont thing there is the need for the big sales push or no need to worry to much about pressure from the boss to sell which I was worried about at the start.

The boss just wants someone honest, reliable , loves cars and is happy to talk to people re the cars without "talking ****" (his words), talking down to female drivers and can just help people in general.....and if I get a sale thats a bonus.

Some will say that all used car sales staff are the biggest *****s in the world, but things are differant in the bush (though of course there will always be DH sale's people) as i said before and I get much more respect as a Vol firefighter than I do as a "Rent A Cop", so maybe time for a change.

[hiline]

if its the same sort of money i'd do it :D

well atleast you get to work during daylight hours and then you get the eye candy as a bonus ;)

[p38arover]

There's an opportunity to learn the business. Maybe then you can move onto selling new Land Rovers. :)

Hang on, you'd be no good as a Land Rover salesman. You'd probably (a) know somehting about them and (b) be interested in selling them. :D

Getting away from dirtbags would be good -as would lessening the risk of injury

[RonMcGr]

Andrew,

Anything would be better than having to fight with drug addicts/thieves at night :)

Go the sales pitch, 9 to 5.30, asleep at night, more family time.

Living in the country and bing known for your other job, you will have far more respect from others than you would in a city. City salesmen can rip you off, country folk don't expect that from others that they know and live near :D

Cheers

[p38arover]

Changing jobs to a new field is always stressful - moving from familiar surrounds to wondering if you can do it, etc.

I moved from 37 years in international telecommunications dealing with ship owners, submarine cable repairers, solicitors and financial agreements, barristers and litigation, to sitting in a signal box controlling trains.

Much more relaxed (albeit much less money :) )

[Landy110]

I'd go the change but then again I'm thinking of it myself. This company is so full of crap I'm drowning in it.

[strangy]

A friend once told me that "if you wake up hating the thought of going to work for more than 2 weeks (in a row), its time to find another job"

Most people never get to do the job they always dreamed of, some have and found it more like a nightmare, while others have and will never look back.
The important thing is to enjoy work as much as you can and enjoy your family more.

If the $$ arent an issue, make the change and be happier.

[Bigbjorn]

Just remember that salesmen who don't make sales don't keep a job. You will have to sell dogs to wood ducks and along the way deceive them. This is the nature of the business. You will have to sell vehicles they don't want to people who can't afford them.
You will have to keep silent as the finance sharks jack people into money traps.

[cookiesa]

Just remember that salesmen who don't make sales don't keep a job. You will have to sell dogs to wood ducks and along the way deceive them. This is the nature of the business. You will have to sell vehicles they don't want to people who can't afford them.
You will have to keep silent as the finance sharks jack people into money traps.

If your working for a half decent dealership then ignore the above, it's a load of crap.

Finance is also usually dealt with by the business manager, your job is to get the sales contract finalised etc.

It is actually a reasonably good job. Especially if you like being around cars. You get to meet, mostly, nice people and in the sort of environment you describe you actually get to help them.

The bigger delaers don't sell bombs, or if they do they are just cheap to get rid of them. They usually wholesale them off because they don't want the hassle, that's what bomb yards are for.

[Sprint]

go figure...... im having similar issues after having been asked to take an identical position, but on a salary and 55 hours a week, averages out to around $54k a year including typical comission

at the moment my boss is making it difficult for me to choose to stay where i am

[Tank]

Hi all,

Ive been offerd a new job. My currrent job is a security Patrol officer (no, not a bouncer)

Ive had a gut full of dealing with the dirtbags of this area, night shift all the time, cops etc and I was looking for a change but not sure what and I ran into our local Holden dealer owner one nght while doing my rounds.

He offerd me the used car sales job in Hamlton, and Im still thinking about it but need to talk about it here to get my head around the offer so I can make my mind up either way.

Ive done the whole for and against on paper thing, but I value members ideas so what do you think?

Sales job is only award wages at around the $16-$17 ph mark but I would get 10% of the profit margin on a sale, 9-5:30 Monday to Friday with one Saturday morning per month (9-12:30), a few shirts and use of a car from the lot, but Im guessing I will pay for fuel etc and the boss seems like a pretty good bloke, down to earth no BS (Ive had alot to do with him in the past) plus you dont last in any busness here if you rip people or stuff them around.........

As far as the security go's its getting rougher around here now , more drugs and more plain dickheads around, shiftwork all the time, boss's that are hopless in every way possible and most of the time a boring job, so Im over it after 6 years. And about the same money as the sales job, just 4 nights of 10hr shift's........

Also they selling about 10 cars per week at the moment without any staff at the Used car area (its 200m away from the main dealership) and the target is at least 3 per week, so I dont thing there is the need for the big sales push or no need to worry to much about pressure from the boss to sell which I was worried about at the start.

The boss just wants someone honest, reliable , loves cars and is happy to talk to people re the cars without "talking ****" (his words), talking down to female drivers and can just help people in general.....and if I get a sale thats a bonus.

Some will say that all used car sales staff are the biggest *****s in the world, but things are differant in the bush (though of course there will always be DH sale's people) as i said before and I get much more respect as a Vol firefighter than I do as a "Rent A Cop", so maybe time for a change.
If the job is dependent on you meeting a "Quota" of sales every week/month then it can become very stressful, esp. in a country town with a limited clientèle, if you can handle the Quota then go for it and good luck, Regards Frank.

[rotord]

Hello amshaw

A point in favour of the change is that once you are trained and have a track record in retail , you can move freely into almost any retail job . For career development , many organizations promote retail staff into executive management . I know TV companies where the CEO's started in sales .

[Signal1]

Andrew,

If you guys can survive on the base dollars then go for it. Take the bonus from each sale as just that. You are an honest, trustworthy bloke who respects others which are qualities valued by potential customers when they step onto the lot.

It'll be a steep learning curve with I imagine a fair bit more paperwork than present so it will keep you engaged and stimulated. Go for it!

So is it the yard on the corner of Sedgewick or Gray?

[Xavie]

I think you know what you want to do Amshwaw, the only question that begs to be asked is why did you go in to security? Was there more of a reason then for the money? When did you stop liking it?

After reading lots of your posts before I think you would be a great salesperson because you have genuine interest and will probably will be straight with customers.

Also, with the cash side of things.... When I have done shift work in the past I generally spent more money then when I worked days. Probably partly because of the large amounts of coffee and redbull I bought but I also boght more consumables. Because you are working on a more natural body cycle I think one tends to be happier and spend less..... But I know this is not always the case.

All the best and I hope everything works out. If you decide to quit and sales person does not work I know often there is a big need for security and usually jobs around and not to hard to get especially with experience like your own. So could you go back if you needed too?

Xavier

[stevo68]

Straight up, looks like it is time to move on based on how you view your current position. Many people make plans whilst life passes them by. Sales, I started out in Door to Door Commission only sales 20 odd years ago, toughest job I have ever done, abuse, dogs set onto you, called a religious nut before you even got half way up the driveway, peers looking down their nose.."bloody salesman". What they forget is that the entire economy revolves around sales in one format or another. A baker selling his bread, a plasterer selling his skill, an accountant selling his expertise, a teacher selling children on the ideals of knowledge, a partner selling their lover on why is now a good time for nookie :D and on and on.

Selling is a skill and can take years to develop, combine with knowledge, believing in what you do and upfront honesty and the world is your oyster.

Regards

Stevo

[amshaw]

Thankyou all for your input.;)

I will more than likely take the job, but its always good to hear things I havent thought of from those who may have been in the same point in there lives in the past.

I dont want to sound up myself but I think I would be good at the job, I enjoy talking to differant people etc but as Pete said there is more paperwork and I have issue's with writing ie very messy due to being almost legely blind until I was 16 and had a cornea graft.:eek: So Im always worried about that, but the rest I have no issue's with, but to be honest I was worried about the target for sales which I asked straight out "what happens when we dont reach it" and the boss said it happens but dont stress about it as most of the time it picks up. I even went as far to say that I hoped that was the case becasue you cant drag people off the street and make them by a car.

The main reason for the change is health reasons and just trying to get back to normal, well as normal as Land Rovers owners can get anyway :p:D So money isnt that important to me but my health and state of mind is. I mean to say I would like to earn 120k per year but with my lack of book work skill I need to be honest with myself and be happy with a average wage,

Thanks again for your help.....Oh I just thought of something.......if a LR gets brought in for a trade in price I can always let everybody know.....

[amshaw]

Hello amshaw

A point in favour of the change is that once you are trained and have a track record in retail , you can move freely into almost any retail job . For career development , many organizations promote retail staff into executive management . I know TV companies where the CEO's started in sales .

As it turns out I have also got 9 years under my belt working for Coles/Myer, I was 2ic of freash produce for most of that time.......thats why I got into security I know the guys who try and run it.

they are always looking for very honest types of course becasue of the amount of keys & alarm code's we hold ie all banks, schools and 60 odd store's around the area. But the pay doesnt really reflect the responsibity
we bare.......

[amshaw]

Andrew,

If you guys can survive on the base dollars then go for it. Take the bonus from each sale as just that. You are an honest, trustworthy bloke who respects others which are qualities valued by potential customers when they step onto the lot.

It'll be a steep learning curve with I imagine a fair bit more paperwork than present so it will keep you engaged and stimulated. Go for it!

So is it the yard on the corner of Sedgewick or Gray?

Hi Pete, How have you been latly?

No its the larger yard in French st next to Beaurepaires. Its a far way from the rest of the dealership, in some ways thats a good thing Im thinking.

Also thankyou for the kind words :redface::angel:, I guess I was brought up right after all ;)

[cookiesa]

Don't worry too much about the paperwork it isn't that bad. Most dealerships now use a computer based system anyway.

Otheriwse it sn't too bad anyway.

[LandyAndy]

Everybody HATES carsalesmen mainly because they are liars and conmen.
Im sure if you can keep yourself from sinking from those lows you will soon get a real good name for yourself and get customers introducing clients.Good honest carsalesmen are hard to find,when somebody finds one they tell everyone!!!!
Grab the job,if it dont work out try something different!!!!
Andrew

[stevo68]

Everybody HATES carsalesmen mainly because they are liars and conmen.
Im sure if you can keep yourself from sinking from those lows you will soon get a real good name for yourself and get customers introducing clients.Good honest carsalesmen are hard to find,when somebody finds one they tell everyone!!!!
Grab the job,if it dont work out try something different!!!!
Andrew Holy Moly, talk about tarring everyone with the same brush, there is good and not so good in any field, I guess it depends on what end of the market one is dealing in. I have bought quite a few cars in my time and never had a problem. I'm not saying there aren't liars and conmen, but those businesses dont tend to last very long,

Regards

Stevo

[TP7]

If you have not done sales before then think carefully. Dealing with tyre kickers and rejection is not easy and not worth $17 hour plus 10% of the profit which may only work out to $50 if the profit is $500 on the sale.

Who do you know who on their death bed said "I wish I had of spent more time at work!" I am pretty sure you know no one who has said that. Why? Because 99% of people loath either their job or having to go to work each day.

If you think a new job will make you happy then unfortunately you are in for a dissappointment.

Did I mention I am in recruitment? My job is the trading of people and it doesn't matter how much money (I deal in salary ranges from 100k to 250k) or how great the title is, everyone is looking for something better!

[amshaw]

If you have not done sales before then think carefully. Dealing with tyre kickers and rejection is not easy and not worth $17 hour plus 10% of the profit which may only work out to $50 if the profit is $500 on the sale.

Who do you know who on their death bed said "I wish I had of spent more time at work!" I am pretty sure you know no one who has said that. Why? Because 99% of people loath either their job or having to go to work each day.

If you think a new job will make you happy then unfortunately you are in for a dissappointment.

Did I mention I am in recruitment? My job is the trading of people and it doesn't matter how much money (I deal in salary ranges from 100k to 250k) or how great the title is, everyone is looking for something better!

G'Day TP7,

Ive taken on bourd what you have said and I thank you for it. I guess nobody is happy working, but Ive ben unemployed a a litle while years ago and I almost went around the twist.

At the end of the day I know I need to work but dealing with tyre kickers and getting knockbacks is much better than getting shot at, stabbed and getting threatend all the time and thats just dealing with Vic Police :p

So Im looking at the lesser of two evils.

Good points of new job, (off the top of my head & how I see it)
Chance to earn a little more to help pay off the house.
Work days so health will be better.
Will be able to go to club meetings & more family time.
Get training in another job
Work for a boss with a little drive and vision.
Sleeping during the night and not a few hours at a time during the day.

Bad points re new job.
Hope the boss does the right thing by me re commision.
Will take a while to get back to working days.
Paperwork.
Working some Saturday mornings (but at least I will get paid for it)
Being a bit scared if I can do the job.

Thats about it as Im still half asleep, so off to bed again a bit later for another few hours sleep.

[p38arover]

it doesn't matter how much money (I deal in salary ranges from 100k to 250k) or how great the title is, everyone is looking for something better!

I'm not. That's why I don't apply for promotion. I'm happy in semi-retitrement here at work.

[tempestv8]

Everybody HATES carsalesmen mainly because they are liars and conmen.

Hmm, that's not always the case. If you google John Hughes in Perth, WA, you'll see that he's built a huge business in the car trade, and he's got an excellent reputation simply due to the trust and relationships that he has built up with repeat customers.

His staff are trained not to deceive customers but to earn their trust.

Sure, I've met some dodgy sales people, but some people are really quite honest and want to earn your repeat business.

[Only Rovers]

Everybody HATES carsalesmen mainly because they are liars and conmen.
Im sure if you can keep yourself from sinking from those lows you will soon get a real good name for yourself and get customers introducing clients.Good honest carsalesmen are hard to find,when somebody finds one they tell everyone!!!!

Holy Crap !!!!!!!

Been in carsales for a fair while and I have worked with heaps of different salesman, have to say I have never met anyone who fits the quoted description... Its not 1980,,, those days and types of salesman are gone!

Amshaw

its a great job if you are in the right yard with the right management and can be very rewarding. Most guys I know sell between 12 and 15 cars a month and If you can sell 12 a month you should earn $70K plus. you will probably find you get fuel with the car.

You just have to get over people walking through the gate already not liking you, and you will find that the people who think you are a conman (which does happen) are generally unrealistic people who have no idea,,for eg. I had a guy in yesterday who called me every name under the sun because i offered him $8000 for his 400,000klm 91 model rust bucket landcruiser which he believed to be worth $17,000. its these idiots you have to get used to,,(they generally drive 80 series).
but on the whole great job heaps of fun,,,, big bludge..

Scott

[LandyAndy]

I actually bought a XC panelvan,351 4speedGS, secondhand from John Hughes when I was 19 or so.Hell of a nice bloke.He was working for Titan Ford in Melville at the time,he had just gone bust and was back working for the opposition to earn a crust.Eventually he got back up where he is today.
Carsalesmen you will find are the most disrespected people in the world.
As I said in my post,get a good name for yourself,your customers appreciate a "GOOD GUY" and will send so many people your way.
Andrew

[Sprint]

i dont know if amshaw took his offer or not, but after a short interview with the dealer principal on tuesday last week, i gave notice at work on monday morning, and i start monday next week :-D

[loanrangie]

Holy Moly, talk about tarring everyone with the same brush, there is good and not so good in any field, I guess it depends on what end of the market one is dealing in. I have bought quite a few cars in my time and never had a problem. I'm not saying there aren't liars and conmen, but those businesses dont tend to last very long,

Regards

Stevo

I have to agree, when i bought my disco 18 months ago from a large city based ford dealer, the salesman couldnht have been more laid back and honest. The car had only just been traded in and was "as it was recieved condition", it was dark and he just handed me the keys and said take it for a spin and when i got back he said if you want to you can have it over night to show the missus. Of course once i had driven it to/from work and read thru the owners manual with full service history and signed on the dotted line when i took it back, he even gave me a drive away deal.
As said previously you go to a dingy back street dealer then you should expect to get an Arthur Daly type dealer.

[amshaw]

i dont know if amshaw took his offer or not, but after a short interview with the dealer principal on tuesday last week, i gave notice at work on monday morning, and i start monday next week :-D

Well done bud, your braver than I, Ive been kicking it over for a while now :angel:, keep in touch Im interested to see how you go. Do you mind if I ask what your old job was?

Ive started 6 weeks holiday today , so I will spend a few days "on the job" and see how it go's, if I dont like it I will return to my old job, but i cant see any real reason ay this point why I wouldent take the new job........;)

[CraigE]

Hey there are a lot of good car salesmen. Gold City Land Rover used to be great, EMG & Nissan in Esperance are pretty good. No high pressure selling.
Just treat your customers with respect, If they are there to look then chances are you are not going to make a sale, If they are there to buy you can bet they know what they are looking for. Approach politely and offer assistance, if they are unsure they will respond.
Hate yards where there is pressure selling and competition between salesmen to make quotas. They should work together to meet their quotas. I have walked out of several yards when intending to buy because salesmen have been overbearing or trying to get you to buy a car you are not interested in. But have also walked out of yards where salesmen do not give you the time of day.
Best of luck
CraigE
:):)

[amshaw]

Well blokes Ive spent the last tree days trying the new job on for size and I sold my first car today :MileStone::banana::banana::banana:

It was a 06 Ford Focus to an older lady who went to school with my mother, I guess it does mean something to have a good family name and rep around the area :angel:

So it was very easy and hassle free experance for everybody, everybodys happy.......New owner got a great deal and a great little car she loves , the boss is very happy as I got my first sale and me of course because I did it the way I want to sell cars (no crap, and helpful) just the same as when/if I take the job on for good.

I told the boss I will think about giving him an anwser on tuesday if I will do it full time, but just between us I reakon I will take it.....Ive really had a ball playing around with cars, talking to diffferant people even tyre kickers who may become buyers, no bloody nightshift etc etc its all good :D:D

[stevo68]

Good to hear mate, hope it all goes well,

Regards

Stevo

[Xavie]

Absolutely Fantastic. I wondered from time to time what had happened about it and here it is!

Good on ya Amshaw and all the best.

Xav

[Sprint]

i used to work for an electrician as a TA

started last week, had 6 cars under contract by the end of the week, 2 fell through on finance, 2 have been delivered, one afaik is just waiting for outside finance to send thier paperwork, and one is still waiting for finance approval

this week however...... its been dead quiet, didnt help that i managed to roll my right ankle first thing yesterday and i'm off work till next week

[Loaded]

Well blokes Ive spent the last tree days trying the new job on for size and I sold my first car today :MileStone::banana::banana::banana:

It was a 06 Ford Focus to an older lady who went to school with my mother, I guess it does mean something to have a good family name and rep around the area :angel:

So it was very easy and hassle free experance for everybody, everybodys happy.......New owner got a great deal and a great little car she loves , the boss is very happy as I got my first sale and me of course because I did it the way I want to sell cars (no crap, and helpful) just the same as when/if I take the job on for good.

I told the boss I will think about giving him an anwser on tuesday if I will do it full time, but just between us I reakon I will take it.....Ive really had a ball playing around with cars, talking to diffferant people even tyre kickers who may become buyers, no bloody nightshift etc etc its all good :D:D



Well done mate I know exactly what you have just gone through I have in the last year thrown away a Security career of 8 years as I was sick and tired of talking to dickheads all day and working day and night shifts.
Since getting out of Security I have been happier and have had better financial security that before. I went in to the Transport industry driving trucks.
Home every night and finally getting paid properly with all benefits.

Hope it all goes well don’t look back as the Security Industry is stuffed similar to the Law Enforcement Industry!.

[Bushwanderer]

Hi Andrew,
Congratulations!

Best of Luck for your future,

[DODGE]

G day andrew. good luck with the job. onwards and upwards!:D

[Panda]

Go for it:D

[Bigbjorn]

Ensure commission is paid as of right, not at discretion of management, and not withheld until the trade-in is sold. Does the company have a "greasy pole" system for retention/dismissal of sales staff? The "greasy pole" was popular with the company stores run by a four letter word Australian manufacturer. In this system volume was paramount. These company stores usually worked on a quota of 20-22 new cars per month each salesperson. The salesperson with the lowest figures each month would be carpeted and told they would be sacked if no improvement. Sometimes the lowest performer was sacked anyway as an example to the others. Anyone below quota for say three months was regarded as "stale" or "gone bad" and sacked.

[amshaw]

Ensure commission is paid as of right, not at discretion of management, and not withheld until the trade-in is sold. Does the company have a "greasy pole" system for retention/dismissal of sales staff? The "greasy pole" was popular with the company stores run by a four letter word Australian manufacturer. In this system volume was paramount. These company stores usually worked on a quota of 20-22 new cars per month each salesperson. The salesperson with the lowest figures each month would be carpeted and told they would be sacked if no improvement. Sometimes the lowest performer was sacked anyway as an example to the others. Anyone below quota for say three months was regarded as "stale" or "gone bad" and sacked.

Hi Brian, Thanks for the input. I went through all that stuff way back when he first offerd the job. I know you wont beleave me but the boss is very trust worthy and I have no issue thinking he will do the right thing, in fact he told how much I will be getting plus my wages for the three days.......All while on holidays from my other job :angel:

In fact I thought he was going to give me a hug when I gave him the thumbs up for the first sale......:eek: , he even bought me a few beers on Thursday night to celebrate.........;)

[amshaw]

Also thanks to everybody else for your comments, I must say the days went very fast and I didnt think it was work at all, sounds stupid I know but I loved it, fitted like a glove you might say.

I thought I wasnt going to be payed for the few days I was planning being there becasue I was just trying on the job for size, I didnt worrie about it as I didnt think I was going to be doing much & on holidays anyway, but as it turned out the other two salesmen were of sick (one sick with a bad fly and the other in for an miner op), so it was just the boss and myself to run the whole show. So as the boss said I was "dropped in the deep end big time" and told others in the dealership (which got back to me) that I was swimming no probs at all and he was very happy with me :angel:.

So after "doing the job" for real not just sitting around watching I asked him point blank if I was going to be paid for my time here and he said "of course, you have worked your **** off" ! I didnt think I had but anyway, if he thinks that well and good ;)

I was kept busy moving cars around, getting issues sorted ie dead batterys, broken anntennas replaced, rego stickes onto cars, more paperwork, cars washed and all the other stuff that hasent been done for the past few months and of course talking to people re cars we have or giving me an idea what there looking for.........but it was great , really enjoyed it, in fact I was thinking about asking the boss for the keys so I can clean up the office a tad and start the cars for the hell of it as they wont be started for a few days etc......Im not really doing anything over the weekend anyway, said but true.......I wish this job was offerd 5-6 years ago........:p

Oh and another good point is the used cars yard is about 200m from the main dealership and workshop, so I can do my own thing without anybody hanging around in the way and I can stay out of the BS between sales and service dept etc........long story :bat::rolleyes:

[sclarke]

Go for it...... i know what the Security industry is like and i worked at the top end of it.... you can find a better job.

As for a Used car sales man...... use it as a stepping stone....

Most people dont trust Car salesman, Real estate agents and pollies.... and in that order..... :D:D:D

As your in Rural Vic, what about a Farm hand... you will get fit and the $$$ is not that bad....


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Suppose i should have read the whole post....
Good luck with it all.... but if you find your being stereo typed... then bail..... unless you like it...

[amshaw]

Go for it...... i know what the Security industry is like and i worked at the top end of it.... you can find a better job.

As for a Used car sales man...... use it as a stepping stone....

Most people dont trust Car salesman, Real estate agents and pollies.... and in that order..... :D:D:D

As your in Rural Vic, what about a Farm hand... you will get fit and the $$$ is not that bad....


Edited....
Suppose i should have read the whole post....
Good luck with it all.... but if you find your being stereo typed... then bail..... unless you like it...

Thanks for the input clarkey but Im a tad old for a farm hand at 38 and I would rather stick at security than heading out to a farm :eek:.

Its happend already when people come onto the lot and are all ready to "Take on the salesman", but after a very short time they relise that Im not like that, easy to talk to and no crap..... has worked a treat so far, but I do know what you mean bud, so far so good........;) Plus I like the challange of changing people's stereo type ideas etc.....:) becasue I really hate sleasy salesmen too that are full of bs, so thats why Im differant.....the new breed maybe......;)

[sclarke]

Thanks for the input clarkey but Im a tad old for a farm hand at 38 and I would rather stick at security than heading out to a farm :eek:.

Its happend already when people come onto the lot and are all ready to "Take on the salesman", but after a very short time they relise that Im not like that, easy to talk to and no crap..... has worked a treat so far, but I do know what you mean bud, so far so good........;) Plus I like the challange of changing people's stereo type ideas etc.....:) becasue I really hate sleasy salesmen too that are full of bs, so thats why Im differant.....the new breed maybe......;)

38, your a young bloke.... i went back on the tools at 35 after a 15 year break from a trade....
Anyhow.. if you enjoy the job, then stick at it... Security really is a dead end... where can you move to???

[amshaw]

38, your a young bloke.... i went back on the tools at 35 after a 15 year break from a trade....
Anyhow.. if you enjoy the job, then stick at it... Security really is a dead end... where can you move to???

Security got me away from Coles/Myer so its served its perpose, but its a thankless,boring job, risky, full of crap/BS and no way I would buy into a company etc its just crap alround. so better to get out while I can. :banana:

Also I think Im wasted doing it:angel:, like sound cocky but I have skills to offer and need/like to learn more along the way, learn anything will do......;)

I may be only 38 but Im an old 38 :p......bung knee, and the back isnt as good as it once was......so farm work would bore me and more than likely kill me.......:eek:

[JackH]

Well I've read all the posts and all I can say is good luck with the new position Andrew, you really agonised over making the move but you seem to have the right attitude to make a success of it.

[amshaw]

G'Day All,

Just letting you all know that things are still kicking along "just fine and Dandy" at the mo........:thumbsup:

Eventhough things have been very quiet for the past week and a 1/2 the car sales count is upto 35 :eek:

Ive now been there 10 weeks or so still loving it and Ive fitted in very well with all but two people there , but Im slowly winning them over with my wit & charm ;):angel: I know, I know just joking :D.

Being a smart **** does help a tad, but havent had any big issue's with clients with warranty claims or anything else exept for a couple bought a VY SS ute off us and two weeks in the CD stacker died. but of course it isnt covered but I worked out a deal so we would pay half each, so once again everybody is happy ;)

Over the time Ive been there I have had some great days, best so far was four cars in one day :banana::banana::banana::banana: but of course it has slacknd of a tad now but still doing heaps of test drives (six yesterday) and quotes going out but most people are being very careful at the mo. Ive found that most peole go away to thik about the deal and all come back on the same day to sign up instead of in dribs and drabs etc:rolleyes:

Anyway enough about me, just thought you may have wonderd whats being going on.:)

Stay safe :cool:

[Sprint]

dont stress too much, everywhere is going through a slow patch at the moment, last month, we sold 16 used and 2 new during the first fortnight, then it literally stopped dead

2nd fortnight, 2 new sales, and so far this month we've sold 1 new and 2 used.....

[amshaw]

dont stress too much, everywhere is going through a slow patch at the moment, last month, we sold 16 used and 2 new during the first fortnight, then it literally stopped dead

2nd fortnight, 2 new sales, and so far this month we've sold 1 new and 2 used.....

HI sprint,
So you took the plunge to hay? From memory you were looking at moving on from your last job?

No stress for me or the boss for that matter, the boss buys a slab on Firdays for after work. He said Friday morning that if I didnt sell four for the day I cant have a beer on him Friday after work:p. Of course he was joking and I had a beer anyway, but of course he would like me to sell four a day (so would I) but he knows better and lives in the real world.......;)

We always meet Holden new car sales target (boss hasent missed one in over nine years :eek:), they are always around the 30+ per month........but Ive only sold one new and that was to a family member :whistling: however Im happy where Iam in used, much less stress trying to get the best price as it seems everybody shops around alot when buying new, well I know I did when we got our RA Rodeo C/cab :angel:....ummm for the wife ;)