QLD Dept of Transport S#$Ks

[101RRS]

It will help me to get my truck registered in the ACT if I have confirmation from the NSW and QLD motor registration authorities that the truck ha been registered in those states before - this is because I do not have a compliance plate.

NSW - no problems - fill out the form - fax - recieved a call 5 mins later - recieved the letter 3 days later - full rego details (not the owner) - interestingly the 101 was registered as a 109-77A.

QLD - sorry we cannot release that information - but all I need is confirmation the vehicle was previously registered in QLD - sorry Sir - if you want the information you will have to submit a Freedom of Information request. Ring the FOI Department - response - you will need to apply to the transport dept - contact them back - you need to contact the FOI Department - Come on guys all I need is confirmation is was registered there. Sorry Sir - we cannot help you:mad:

Queenland - beautiful one day - sucks the next.

Not inconsistent with my work projects where I build things near or on the sea across the top end - including Qld for a Federal agency - no probs in WA or NT but QLD - while we try to cooperate often it is easier to ignore State rules and do what we want irrespective of what they say :mad:

Grumble, grumble, grumble - grrrrrrrrr

Garry

[Stepho_62]

Yep, they are in a class of thier own.:D

No doubt about that. **** wasn't getting a license up here an education:o,

As for rego and roadworthy, what a load of beuraucratic nonsense that is. :eek:

They might live in paradise but they don't deserve it.

NM has it right. "I might live in Queensland but I'm not a Queenslander"! :BigThumb:

[Chucaro]

Mate, relax it is bad for the heart :) Some times I think that I am in some small island in the Pacific.... The problem is that this new attitude it is drag you down
so put your feet up and have a beer :D

[Quarks]

I know that sort of situation, the best approach is refer one to the other, and cut yourself out from being the middleman. :D

Even if you don't get the Qld. info, then at least you've got the NSW info, which is better than none at all!

:)

[Stepho_62]

Mate, relax it is bad for the heart :) Some times I think that I am in some small island in the Pacific.... The problem is that this new attitude it is drag you down
so put your feet up and have a beer :D

:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:

Spoken like a true expat Tasmanian marooned on an island called QLD. :D

[Chucaro]

:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:

Spoken like a true expat Tasmanian marooned on an island called QLD. :D
No....I am the man with no land :( A wog who lived in Sydney from there to Childers, from Childers to Hobart from Hobart to Moore Park and tomorrow :angel: on the road again :D
I think that I qualify for a gypsygringowog :angel:
Cheers mate

[BradM]

You should not have told them Queenslanders that you live in the ACT, I reckon. Easy answer, move a couple of K's into NSW to that beautifull sister city of Canberra, Qbean.

Why do ACT Motor rego need confirmation from 2 states? Are they twice as good as the other states and Territories.

I feel for you as I had to get my 1996 Nissan Patrol rego changed from the NT to the ACT but I had removed the over the back rear seat but the seat was in the container on it's way to Canberra still. There view was that it had 7 seater on the compliance plate and seat belts in the cargo area, so it had to have the seat.

Where do they find them??? :mad:

BradM

[101 Ron]

Go for Rego in NSW and tell them it has been previously rego in NSW and very nicely hold your ground and say the rego was before 1985.
NSW rego records dont go back before 1985 .
In the end you will end up signing a stat dec and every ones happy.
The fact it is Aust exarmy and some are running around on rego in NSW should help you.

[isuzurover]

Yes - QLD can be a PITA and NSW was generally better IME.

WA, however, takes the cake.

When I brought my 110 county over here from Brisbane (originally from NSW), I had to take it "over the pits" (RWC/safety cert equivalent). The guy I got was an ex Brisbane LR club member (As was I, but he was before my time), but did he show me any leniency... The first thing he said was - "that exhaust, - it may be original" ("It is" I replied), "and it may be acceptable in every other state, but in WA, the tip needs to point downwards"...

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Go for Rego in NSW and tell them it has been previously rego in NSW and very nicely hold your ground and say the rego was before 1985.
NSW rego records dont go back before 1985 .
In the end you will end up signing a stat dec and every ones happy.
The fact it is Aust exarmy and some are running around on rego in NSW should help you.
Ron

The computer system was changed in 1991 - while I was overseas and the Rangie parked in a garage. When the rangie was re-registered some B*#..... entered the capacity of the Rockhampton 5 Litre V8 (which had a P76 V8 engine number) as 3.5 litre. When the error was recognised a couple of years later, do you think that they would accept that the capacity was 5 litres or even 4.4 litres or that They had made a mistake. NO WAY :rocket:

As I said, tell them it was NSW registered and you bought it unregistered from Gosford. Better still get a Queanbeyan PO Box and register it there for a time, even if you have to book into the caravan park for a week. That or find someone who lives in NSW to loan you an address.

In 6 months you can get ACT rego for the currently NSW registered vehicle then cancel the NSW rego and get a refund.

Diana

[101RRS]

Thanks everyone for the comments.

I do not absolutely need the docs - just makes it easier - the registering authority needs to be assured of ADR compliance and without a compliance plate proof of previous registration assists with this - the alternative is the possible cost of an engineers certifcate.

As far as NSW records go - they are kept for 30 years only - it is not a set date. I managed to get the information on my series 1 just a month or so before it would have fallen off the records - so anyone with a car registered previously in NSW you need to be aware of this if you want information - do it now.

Garry

[Blknight.aus]

thats still better going than in the NT I had a v8 kings wood an original v8 kingswood with the original engine but the idiot who inspected it marked it as a 6 pot and then when I took it back to get the items hed failed it on the bloke who did the inspection wanted to see the engineering report for the v8 conversion.

When I tried to point out that the engine number recorded was the engine number of the v8 I was less than politely told that that couldnt be right as no 2 engines have the same serial number...

3 days of arguments, paper work and finally an inspection from someone with a brain got it to the point of nope that was a v8 chassis from the begining looks like this blokes made a transcription error here. But as the vehicle was unregistered and the dolts there knew about it they wouldnt give me a "day pass" certificate so I could drive it to and fro, Had to ride the pushy after walking home the first day.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Thanks everyone for the comments.

I do not absolutely need the docs - just makes it easier - the registering authority needs to be assured of ADR compliance and without a compliance plate proof of previous registration assists with this - the alternative is the possible cost of an engineers certifcate.

As far as NSW records go - they are kept for 30 years only - it is not a set date. I managed to get the information on my series 1 just a month or so before it would have fallen off the records - so anyone with a car registered previously in NSW you need to be aware of this if you want information - do it now.

Garry

How did you get it for the 30 year rule, the three times I went in, there was no way. Always back to the 1991 date and then they would say that they don't have a mainframe to read the old data-tapes. Even the suggestion of an FOI was greeted with a blank stare.

More info please??? :):)

Diana

[101RRS]

Diana - I made a mistake - the records are held for 25years not 30 years. So back past 1991 to about 1983 should be possible.

Here is the link to the form you have to fill out. Complete Section 5 and 6 - I included a letter indicating exactly what I was after. I found it best to fax the form - the number is near the back. Also you must include a photocopy of your drivers licence. The cost is $18 but they do not always charge - I guess it depends on the mood they are in.

The contact officer - Wendy is very helpful but do not ask for any information that compromises someone elses privacy.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/publicationsstatisticsforms/downloads/45070476.pdf

Attached are the responses I received.

Sorry had to put the pics sideways because of the 640 pics wide rule.

Garry

[p38arover]

When I get the IIA on the road, will I have problems? It has been previously registered in NSW. I know the rego no., the plates are still on it :angel:

[101RRS]

When I get the IIA on the road, will I have problems? It has been previously registered in NSW. I know the rego no., the plates are still on it :angel:

If it was previously reg in NSW and you are doing it there again - there will be no problems.

Gazzz

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Diana - I made a mistake - the records are held for 25years not 30 years. So back past 1991 to about 1983 should be possible.

Here is the link to the form you have to fill out. Complete Section 5 and 6 - I included a letter indicating exactly what I was after. I found it best to fax the form - the number is near the back. Also you must include a photocopy of your drivers licence. The cost is $18 but they do not always charge - I guess it depends on the mood they are in. ...

... Garry
Garry

That is exactly the same form I attempted to use when I attempted to correct the records of my 5 litre engine - The RTA wouldn't have a bar of it - I guess it was because I was suggesting that their records were wrong.

Will try again.

Diana

[JDNSW]

NSW RTA took a letter via my local member to correct the number of seats in the County (it is not on the plate on the firewall), which they had got wrong on my moving from Vic. They also paid my invoice for two trips to town, which rather surprised me.

However, they still insist that my 2a is a table top ute, as this was the only form of body made in 1970, and have refused to look at evidence to the contrary.

John

[p38arover]

When I came back from Norfolk Island in 1993, I had to reregister my Hillman which had been in storage.

Hillmans don't exist as far as the NSW RTA are concerned.

It was registered as a Chrysler Unknown.

My son was pulled up by the police when driving it. The copper had done a rego check and knew it was a Hillman, not a Chrysler.

A friend's father-in-law tried to register a 1903 car. Nope. Cars weren't made then.

As far as bureaucracy goes, the NRMA Insurance are/were no better. When we tried to insure my son's Hillman Minx, they wouldn't insure it as it was painted with a white roof (different from the body colour). The NRMA knew that cars were only painted a single colour. They wouldn't accept the car was in original paint as from the factory and the same as most other Minxes of the period. We had to take it for inspection.

Don't tell them your Land Rover comes from the factory with a white roof! :D

After I had a car park accident whilst reversing and hit a car that was jutting out too far, I had my insurance bumped up in case there was a third party claim from the occupants. I told them the car was empty - it was a railway station car park. No matter, there might be a claim from the occupants. :mad:

[JDNSW]

Now we have branched out into insurance - two companies last year ensured they did not get my business (all vehicles) by insisting that Landrover did not make cars in 1970!

Some people assume that the computer is always right, even when it is patently wrong.

John

[DiscoTDI]

Qld tpt are in a league of their own, I had a notice come through that my boat trailer was a stolen trailer. I have an old trailer with a generic vin number, drama was that there are 8 other trailers with the same vin number in QLD. So I went to the police station as directed and had the police check out my trailer to make sure it was not stolen and that it was not a box trailer. After the police filled out the report and sent it to QLD tpt in front of me, the person from QLD tpt rang the police and told them that that information was not good enough and she needed more:eek:.

I dont need to tell you what the policemans attitude to this was:D

took 2 months to sort out the BS with Qld transport, 10 minutes with the police.

Thank god they cant take you in for questioning :(

[CraigE]

thats still better going than in the NT I had a v8 kings wood an original v8 kingswood with the original engine but the idiot who inspected it marked it as a 6 pot and then when I took it back to get the items hed failed it on the bloke who did the inspection wanted to see the engineering report for the v8 conversion.

When I tried to point out that the engine number recorded was the engine number of the v8 I was less than politely told that that couldnt be right as no 2 engines have the same serial number...

3 days of arguments, paper work and finally an inspection from someone with a brain got it to the point of nope that was a v8 chassis from the begining looks like this blokes made a transcription error here. But as the vehicle was unregistered and the dolts there knew about it they wouldnt give me a "day pass" certificate so I could drive it to and fro, Had to ride the pushy after walking home the first day.


V8 chassis?? There was no difference between a 6cyl and V8 chassis. Hence why a conversion is legal. Inspection still required, but only for engine mounts and correct v8 used.

[Bigbjorn]

One would think the model code on the plate would have told them something. A Kingswood is an 80369, a V8 is an 80469.

[George130]

This sort of mistakes is why I have a Landrover HCPU dual cab ute wagon:eek:. Gave up trying to sort it out in the end and accepted that it is both a wagon and a ute:D:D.

[BigJon]

V8 chassis?? There was no difference between a 6cyl and V8 chassis. Hence why a conversion is legal. Inspection still required, but only for engine mounts and correct v8 used.

When I converted my HJ from 202 to 308 in SA, no inspection required. Fill out the paperwork with the new engine number and tick the box marked "Front Disc Brakes" and away you go :p.

Same deal when I put a 308 into my WB (was 253).

[Bigbjorn]

We never built a V8 Holden with drum brakes from late HT's on. Even when the disc brakes were still an optional extra on V8's the production tag was coded for discs. In fact, I am surprised you got a HJ of any kind with drum brakes. This late it must have been a dealer order for a Luddite. Cab owners (mean lousy illegitimates all) loved drum brakes. They thought and were probably right that they were cheaper to operate. Plant stock from HG on had discs. I know, I did production planning for a while. The WB's all had discs. HZ's were the first with discs all around.