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4X4V8
14th February 2008, 10:51 AM
Prices are all over the shop on the 'net but what are people really paying for a 97-98 P38A with low kays?

I just missed a 2002 that was traded in for $15k (but with high kays - 200,000km). It would've cost me abt $17k, but really was over my budget anyway.

I was thinking $13k for a mint 97 HSE would be abt right...

Any thoughts?

Bigbjorn
14th February 2008, 11:13 AM
I have seen quite tidy ones go through auctions from $7000-8000 up to $13000-15000. Depends on the assembled potential buyers and who gets bidding. Dealers generally don't like them as they have a reputation for developing expensive problems. Dealers have to give warranty, and take out warranty insurance rather than carry the risk themselves. Some insurers want high premiums for these cars, or apply high excesses to claims. Some simply refuse to cover these and other cars of like reputation.

BigJon
14th February 2008, 11:20 AM
Almost literally peanuts :eek:. Just ask Scouse what he paid for his... :D.

green_rangie
14th February 2008, 06:08 PM
I paid $14,800 for my 4.0 with 99 with Bosche ignition, leather and 130k km a month ago.

Cheers, Steve.

4X4V8
14th February 2008, 07:23 PM
I'm now looking at a 1998 4.0 (not SE, so cloth seats) with 107,000km, full stamped LR history and later 18in alloys for just under $14k, by the time I change rego over from interstate.

This seems a fair price... I hope.

EchiDna
14th February 2008, 08:14 PM
what's aluminium worth as scrap?

:P

p38arover
14th February 2008, 10:25 PM
Some insurers want high premiums for these cars, or apply high excesses to claims. Some simply refuse to cover these and other cars of like reputation.

My insurance for my P38A is less than my wife's Foreester and they are insured for the same amount through the same insurance company. Excess is the same. Both are agreed value.

loanrangie
15th February 2008, 06:53 AM
what's aluminium worth as scrap?

:P

Mostly plastic arent they ?

rovercare
15th February 2008, 06:59 AM
My insurance for my P38A is less than my wife's Foreester and they are insured for the same amount through the same insurance company. Excess is the same. Both are agreed value.

Brian meant WARRANTY insurance, for the dealer, as they (P38A) have lots of faults, the insurance is always coughing up the doe

Not vehicle insurance:D

4X4V8
15th February 2008, 07:28 AM
I spent a long time re-reading the numerous threads on P38A and discovered two things:

1. Like lots of forums, there is lots of 'talk' of problems people have heard, but this is like Chinese whispers. Someone says 'I took my dog for a walk' and the 10th person down the line eventually hears "his dog bit a bloke". I get the feeling that, yes, the P38A has problems, but not all P38As bite.

2. So the P38A is 'notorious' for its problems, but I bet none of you can tell me with a straight face that a Freelander (especially) is the best of British. As for the cost of repairs, I'll be educating myself (thanks to the great resources available) on how to keep up maintenance myself. It seems over time there have been various fixes and short-cuts to repair the P38A.

I admit I must be slightly mad for wanting to buy one, but I have always liked them since first driving them in 1995. Sometimes you just have to go with what you like, and not be 'sensible'. I got 'sensible' by selling my D2 a year ago and regretted it ever since. In my case, I'll only do 4-5000km a year anyway, and only fire trails off-road.

I want the youngest, lowest kays model I can find and if it's a 4.0-litre, I am guessing I won't lose much ultimate performance, I'll get slightly better economy and a slightly better chance a liner won't slip than with a 4.6.

Sounds like I've talked myself into a P38A, then :eek:

dobbo
15th February 2008, 07:35 AM
Your life savings in repairs running costs and services and all of your sanity. + $5000 - $15000 for the initial purchase price of the vehicle.

A bit less than the $104000.00 the were brand new and on the road

Scouse
15th February 2008, 10:57 AM
Almost literally peanuts :eek:. Just ask Scouse what he paid for his... :D.They're even cheaper now !!
A mate of mine just bought a '98 P38 for $2000.

There's a catch though but it will only cost him around $1500 or so to fix (and he's a LR tech).

BigJon
15th February 2008, 11:02 AM
Hmm. I might have to keep an eye out for one myself...

Rangier Rover
15th February 2008, 12:05 PM
As nice these P38's are, I hope you realise what you are taking on. They are not for the faint hearted. I had people come here in tears after getting a quote for 2 ECU's,New air bags and and finding sliped liners when the hoses kept blowing off etc. May be Ok if you source your own. Neveeeeer through a dealer or so called specialist. I'n not saying they are any more prone to dramas. But if they have them. Know what to expect.:o

Pedro_The_Swift
15th February 2008, 12:26 PM
I spent a long time re-reading the numerous threads on P38A and discovered two things:

1. Like lots of forums, there is lots of 'talk' of problems people have heard, but this is like Chinese whispers. Someone says 'I took my dog for a walk' and the 10th person down the line eventually hears "his dog bit a bloke". I get the feeling that, yes, the P38A has problems, but not all P38As bite.

2. So the P38A is 'notorious' for its problems, but I bet none of you can tell me with a straight face that a Freelander (especially) is the best of British. As for the cost of repairs, I'll be educating myself (thanks to the great resources available) on how to keep up maintenance myself. It seems over time there have been various fixes and short-cuts to repair the P38A.

I admit I must be slightly mad for wanting to buy one, but I have always liked them since first driving them in 1995. Sometimes you just have to go with what you like, and not be 'sensible'. I got 'sensible' by selling my D2 a year ago and regretted it ever since. In my case, I'll only do 4-5000km a year anyway, and only fire trails off-road.

I want the youngest, lowest kays model I can find and if it's a 4.0-litre, I am guessing I won't lose much ultimate performance, I'll get slightly better economy and a slightly better chance a liner won't slip than with a 4.6.



From all the posts I have read the difference is considerable,, with better fuel consumption to boot,,

dont fool yourself about the liners---

overheat a 4L V8 at your own peril!!

Rangier Rover
15th February 2008, 06:00 PM
From all the posts I have read the difference is considerable,, with better fuel consumption to boot,,

dont fool yourself about the liners---

overheat a 4L V8 at your own peril!!
Yes, all so true:) Stick with the later low kays with good history and it will be fine. :)The Rule is More gizmo's = more trouble;):wasntme::D

green_rangie
15th February 2008, 06:40 PM
Might be worth investigating the 99 ignition change to Bosche. I've owned a Classic, a D2 and now a P38. My 4.0 P38 with Bosche ignition is the best on fuel by a long shot. My uncle owns a 98 P38 (pre bosche) and it does not get the economy I do. He might just have a lead foot but look into it, this was a pleasant surprise for me.

PS. Loved the Classic, liked the D2 but after 10 years of driving V8 LR's the P38 is my favourite so far.

Cheers Steve.

meggsie
15th February 2008, 08:57 PM
I have a 00 D2 and am looking at a P38. Save two @ Ritters...
2002 67,000kms...$44k
2000 110,000kms...$32k...
My problem is I don't have time to fix problems...don't mind paying a bit more IF i am getting a better unit...hmmmm....would I by one from auction/wholesaler...I bought my D2 like that 4 years ago with 60,000kms on clock for $10k less then a dealer...

Bigbjorn
15th February 2008, 10:26 PM
I have a 00 D2 and am looking at a P38. Save two @ Ritters...
2002 67,000kms...$44k
2000 110,000kms...$32k...
My problem is I don't have time to fix problems...don't mind paying a bit more IF i am getting a better unit...hmmmm....would I by one from auction/wholesaler...I bought my D2 like that 4 years ago with 60,000kms on clock for $10k less then a dealer...

See Post #2 above.

4X4V8
16th February 2008, 06:16 AM
I wonder what happens to the many, many P38As for sale - and seem to have been for a long time - that are way over-priced - how do people justify asking $20k for a 95 HSE with 200k km-plus?

I have been tempted to call a few of the better private sales cars and ask if their price is negotiable - like about $5000 negotiable. I don't want people to take offence, but then I am wanting to buy a car, and surely they want to sell? I can't give away a perfect '93 E280 sedan at the moment. It is 'valued' by Glasses Guide at $20k, but I can't get any interest at half that price. It's probably not a good time to sell, and I think there's a bit of a two speed economy going on at the moment - the well-off are buying new cars by the boat load, but punters like me who can afford $10k cars are doing it hard with interest rate rises etc. And the real rate of inflation is staggering.

I'm looking at a 95 HSE this morning, 111,000km, service books and new airbags that the owner wants $12k for. I'm only half interested cos it's a bit old and the first of the series, but if it's really good I could be tempted.

I can't make up my mind about post-98 Bosch cars - yes, more efficient, arguably more reliable electrics, but harder to work on the engine. There are no Bosch cars for sale in my price range at the moment anyway, but going by what you guys say, there will be...

4X4V8
16th February 2008, 12:54 PM
Just put a deposit on a P38A and pick it up next Friday. 98 4.0-litre, 107,000km in dark blue with late model 18in alloys.

Will have to replace one tyre and fell over at the price of the Michelins - $400 and something each...

As a P38A owner, I can now be officially commited for insanity, but at least I'm happily mad...

p38arover
16th February 2008, 01:41 PM
Best you join the P38A forum at http://rangerovers.net/forums
and start reading Range Rovers (http://rangerovers.net) - see the P38A areas.

4X4V8
16th February 2008, 05:05 PM
Thanks Ron, Have joined up today.

It's an excellent resource and have been reading up on all the various procedures I will no doubt have to do.

Do you think it's worth fitting an Optima battery and disconnecting the window RF antenna to avoid the flat or low battery problems?

I am also thinking of rebuilding the air suspension pump (depending on how old it is) and replacing the radiator and hoses (will have to check how bad they are). Trying to aviod problems as much as I can.

p38arover
16th February 2008, 05:08 PM
What username? I haven't activated your registration (have I?)

4X4V8
16th February 2008, 05:21 PM
What username? I haven't activated your registration (have I?)

No, just about to activate 'Phil'. Unimaginative, I know, but hopefully vague as I am I won't forget my own name...

Cheers,

Phil

p38arover
16th February 2008, 06:15 PM
Done, you have been activated. Welcome to RRNET! :D

rovercare
17th February 2008, 04:41 PM
Range Rover SE 1995 - eBay, Passenger Vehicles, Cars, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 17-Feb-08 17:07:00 AEDST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=330212580107&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=014)

I just bought this for 4k:angel:

Rangier Rover
17th February 2008, 05:48 PM
Range Rover SE 1995 - eBay, Passenger Vehicles, Cars, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 17-Feb-08 17:07:00 AEDST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=330212580107&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=014)

I just bought this for 4k:angel:Well done!:D

parasnoop67
18th February 2008, 08:34 PM
Thanks Ron, Have joined up today.

It's an excellent resource and have been reading up on all the various procedures I will no doubt have to do.

Do you think it's worth fitting an Optima battery and disconnecting the window RF antenna to avoid the flat or low battery problems?

I am also thinking of rebuilding the air suspension pump (depending on how old it is) and replacing the radiator and hoses (will have to check how bad they are). Trying to aviod problems as much as I can.
A year ago I bought a 97 4.6 H S E platinum with 160k for 18k in mint condition inside and out. Since then I've put about 15000km on it with no real problems.As you will find out from rangerovers.net ,many of the problems are caused by lack of maintainance.
Since buying mine I've spent a few bob to get it just how Iwant it. This consisted of 4 new airbags $800-pads f & r $160 -big battery $175 ,4-255#70#16 Coopers $1000
Suspension pump repair kit and manual air recovery system. Now I have excellent reliability in a vehicle which is a pleasure to drive.Regarding slipped sleeves and overheating, I think you are on the right track to check radiator, hoses etc. before something stuffs up rather than later. I think warming up a bit before driving also helps due to the alloy block-sleeves expanding at different rates.Re fuel consumption I get about 13-14l/100km
on road at 100-110km/hr with leadfooting making quite a difference.These are expensive vehicles new and cheapish secondhand, but many are lacking proper care and attention.When this is correctly attended to, I'm sure they will give more satisfactory service. Good luck

4X4V8
23rd February 2008, 06:50 AM
Well I'm gutted... the car I was going to buy in Melbourne yesterday was a piece of junk.

It had a bad vibration at idle in gear, the front airbags were leaking, the A-pillar trims were trashed, there broken bits and pieces all through the car... If it was, as I was assured, "one of the best I've ever seen", then these cars don't last well at all.

The lesson is, always look at a car. Internet pics (especially low-res, or those hi-res but selectively taken) will always make a car look better than it is. Phone reassurances from a seller is no reassurance.

The depressing thing is this bloke has another 2 Rangies there and they were not much better. All looked very tired. I hope this is not an indication of what all 10-year-old P38As end up looking like.

If anyone's interested in one of a few RRs being sold in Melbourne on eBay, I strongly suggest you look first.

I have decided to slow up a bit and shop around a lot more. I don't mind buying a tired, low-kay RR for $7k, but not $13k. They're just not worth that when you can tell they are half buggered already, and need $$$ spent straight away.

p38arover
23rd February 2008, 07:14 AM
Range Rover SE 1995 - eBay, Passenger Vehicles, Cars, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 17-Feb-08 17:07:00 AEDST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=330212580107&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=014)

I just bought this for 4k:angel:

Mongrel! :D

Aussie
12th March 2008, 08:54 PM
My advice get the newset one u can afford, I love my P38 best buggy I have ever driven

4X4V8
15th March 2008, 07:00 AM
Still looking, but have decided to get an update model only, 2000-2001. Or a D2.

I know the 'starting' trade price is around $11k for a 2000 4.0, so i am prepared to spend $2-$3k more than that to get a good one.

What I wonder is, how do private sellers justify asking as much as dealers do? I have phoned a few sellers now, with cars that sem way overpriced but have been advertised for a while. They have gone out and bought new cars and, having already been low-balled on the trade-in price, are trying to get nearly twice that amount privately. Thier cars are advertised at the same price as dealers. There are two 2000MY 4.0s for sale atm and they are both low-$20k, the same price as a dealer has for the same car (with much lower kays, btw). In any case, they don't seem to be selling their cars yet. I feel like saying 'look, why hold out for something that is clearly not happening when I will pay what the industry valuer Redbook says it is worth right now'? Okay, so I am getting a little impatient...

I've been on the selling side too, and I know how painful it is to realise your car has been devalued by thousands, no-one calls about it and then you eventually get tyre kickers like me phoning. Now that I think abt it that way, it makes a very pleasant change to be on the other side for once!

I keep looking at other brands, keep thinking there are other (probably more reliable) brands but they do nothing for me. All I want is a Land Rover. I will eventually own an excellent P38 or D2, it is just a waiting game...

PLR
15th March 2008, 01:38 PM
G`day

If you list exactly what your after and what you don`t want , i keep am eye on used ones and i`m sure plenty of others do too . Don`t want one but see them .

It has to be a bosch injected 2000/1 or D2 ( year range ) but things like max ks , max $ any colours not acceptable both interior and exterior etc ?

Can the D2 be TD5 or V8 only ?

PM the info if you would rather .

Cheers

4X4V8
15th March 2008, 03:04 PM
G`day

If you list exactly what your after and what you don`t want , i keep am eye on used ones and i`m sure plenty of others do too . Don`t want one but see them .

It has to be a bosch injected 2000/1 or D2 ( year range ) but things like max ks , max $ any colours not acceptable both interior and exterior etc ?

Can the D2 be TD5 or V8 only ?

PM the info if you would rather .

CheersHey thanks - esp if anyone has dealer contacts? Must be somebody who has just got a rude shock at what the dealer has offered them as a trade-in for their D2 or P38A and wants to get a few thousand dollars more - probably several thousand more - for their car?

Anyway, I am really not fussed with the P38A, so long it is an update, original 2000-2001. Really, I probably should have bought that auction car. I would prefer a 4.0-litre but 4.6 is okay, really ANY good 2000-2001 P38A with a service history is fine. Leather or not, sunroof or not, it doesn't matter. In fact a cloth no roof 4.0 in a dark colour would be ideal. There are 3 for sale on the east coast atm, and all are in the $20k region. :(
No more than 200,000km - think they start to get a bit tired after that.

The D2, well... it is my second choice really, but I know I can be more picky as there are more around and they should be cheaper in theory. I only want a V8, and pref no more than 100,000km and with 7 seats, auto or manual although manual appeals more. If it's a little more than 100k km and has five seats, I'll look at it though. I want the transfer case, so really 1999/2000 at my price range.

I offered $12k for a 1999 manual with 88,000km, fsh and 1 owner, but was knocked back (she is asking $17.5k), but then the car had just gone on sale. It needs $1500 of panel work, felt a bit gutless to drive - MAF sensor? but I am starting to think, should I offer more? $13k, then spend the $1500 on body repairs and replace the broken driver's mirror and damaged bits of trim? So it ends up costing $15k for basically an immac low-kay Disco V8? I'll spend more if I need to, but not if these people are just trying it on...

PLR
15th March 2008, 04:13 PM
Yep no worries i`ll keep an eye out .

Sounds like your $ thinking is more than reasonable .

One thing i would say is that dealer wholesale and wholesalers price are not the same thing . What i mean is the price a wholesaler gives a dealer for a car is not what dealers offer cars for as wholesale .

So if you come across a dealer wholesale price , more so if its been with them a few weeks there is room to negotiate even if they say not .

Have you thought of wanted adds because as you know the way to get them is during the trade in deal but as it would be luck to be on the spot not as likely but also some of the for sale add are because of the trade in figure .

It only cost a phone call , ring any of interest and ask the questions .

Buying and sell cars is not done in a manner that one normal lives their life by . Car traders set the scene , coarse it makes sense to do things a bit different with private sales .

If your considering the D2 you`ve looked at .... this ones in Melb 2001 84,000 km , 18in alloy , no other info . Private sale ( have to check the vin for transfer )
PH# 03 97088633 Asking $18000


Cheers

2001 D2 champagne 76000km V8 auto Sydney Private 0415204104 $16900

1999 D2 drk blue 107000km V8 auto NSW Private 02 95654211 $14290

2000 P38 hse drk blue 195000km Gold coast Private 0418513956 $19900

Dealer ad says ( 2003 , it`s not , has orange lenses ) hse? White , has history ? 77927km ? Haberfield 02 97992020 $15999 . Maybe the ks make worth a look .

4X4V8
17th March 2008, 12:28 PM
So I just drove a 1998 4.0, 158,000km asking price $15k. It was quite an ordinary example and to me I can't understand who buys these cars for this kind of money. It's rooflining was sagging, the pillar trim were all tatty, rust was bubbling up on one of the doors and there was a light crease scrape all down one side. It has spent a lot of time in the sun, going by the faded plastics. It hadn't had a wash for a while, and generally looked tired. The airbags were cracked a lot on the bottom and looked like they may soon be due for replacement.

Even thought the steering was a bit sloppy, the drive experience was all that I remember Rangies being like. A magic carpet ride. It just makes me want one more, only not this particular example...

Still looking...

green_rangie
17th March 2008, 06:00 PM
I've been through this.

After my '83 Classic RR I bought a 2001 D2 and it was great for 5 years. Really great but not a Rangie. The Disco was the most reliable and capable car I have owned and I liked it but it really just was not a Rangie.

I sold it and thought about it for 12 months while I decided what I was going to have next. I got the '99 last December and it is great. The forum is right, the P38 can be an expensive car to own especially if you do nothing yourself and use the stealers. Luckily I like to tinker and have a good indy.

If your heart is set on the P38 here are my tips:
1) Be patient, you will find someone who has to sell with the right car
2) Get the 4.0 if you are considering fuel
3) Get the late 98 build on (99MY) with the Bosch ignition. My uncle has MY98 without Bosch and it is a lot more expensive on fuel despite being pretty much the same car. My Bosch 4.0 is the cheapest V8 LR on fuel I have owned by far.

Cheers, Steve.

Captain_Rightfoot
17th March 2008, 06:16 PM
Depends how much fuel is in the tank? :wasntme::wasntme:

Please do not flog me too hard :eek::eek:

4X4V8
17th March 2008, 07:25 PM
Be patient, you will find someone who has to sell with the right carYou're right of course, I'm just frustrated with it. Countless cars I have seen or called about, the RR has already been replaced by a new car. So the seller is holding out for the max $ possible. Fair enough, I suppose, except that no-one's going to buy at the advertised prices. That $15k car was really a $7k car, if that.

rovercare
17th March 2008, 07:36 PM
I've been through this.

After my '83 Classic RR I bought a 2001 D2 and it was great for 5 years. Really great but not a Rangie. The Disco was the most reliable and capable car I have owned and I liked it but it really just was not a Rangie.

I sold it and thought about it for 12 months while I decided what I was going to have next. I got the '99 last December and it is great. The forum is right, the P38 can be an expensive car to own especially if you do nothing yourself and use the stealers. Luckily I like to tinker and have a good indy.

If your heart is set on the P38 here are my tips:
1) Be patient, you will find someone who has to sell with the right car
2) Get the 4.0 if you are considering fuel
3) Get the late 98 build on (99MY) with the Bosch ignition. My uncle has MY98 without Bosch and it is a lot more expensive on fuel despite being pretty much the same car. My Bosch 4.0 is the cheapest V8 LR on fuel I have owned by far.

Cheers, Steve.

My 95 P38 is averaging 14.9l/100km, that's of the trip computer, so not exact, and its done near 340.ooo kays, not bad I thought, does the bosch get much better on fuel??

Oh that's with the wife driving, couldn't see me consistantly getting that:angel:

green_rangie
17th March 2008, 08:33 PM
Hi Rovercare,

14.9 sounds pretty good.

Mine has 145k km and off the trip computer I get 12 on the highway and up to 16 around town. Depending on how long you let the computer set itself over I would expect to be around your figures. Come to think of it my Uncle has been driving V8 LR's for a very long time and has a large right foot and a fat wallet.

For the record my classic did 22l / 100, the D2 was 18l and the P38 is always less than 16 but a lot less on the highway. These figures are based on logging actual fuel and km rather than the computer.

That classic was a hell of a lot of fun and had a fair bit of work done on it. The 22l was justified.

Cheers, Steve.

rovercare
17th March 2008, 08:41 PM
Hi Rovercare,

14.9 sounds pretty good.

Mine has 145k km and off the trip computer I get 12 on the highway and up to 16 around town. Depending on how long you let the computer set itself over I would expect to be around your figures. Come to think of it my Uncle has been driving V8 LR's for a very long time and has a large right foot and a fat wallet.

For the record my classic did 22l / 100, the D2 was 18l and the P38 is always less than 16 but a lot less on the highway. These figures are based on logging actual fuel and km rather than the computer.

That classic was a hell of a lot of fun and had a fair bit of work done on it. The 22l was justified.

Cheers, Steve.

Unfortunately its a bit hard to get the missus to fill to the same point and log the kays and litres for me:D

justinc
17th March 2008, 10:44 PM
Brian meant WARRANTY insurance, for the dealer, as they (P38A) have lots of faults, the insurance is always coughing up the doe
Not vehicle insurance:D

Mmmmmm, Venison.....:p

JC

4X4V8
27th March 2008, 09:54 AM
I don't expect dealers to do their job as a free service to the community, but the RR I bid on at auction is now for sale for twice the price it sold for at auction! The stealer has either a) spent loads on it to bring it up to scratch and included a moderate profit margin or b) is hoping to make loads on it. I'm guessing it's b).

Scouse
27th March 2008, 10:14 AM
By using 'dealer' & 'stealer' I assume you're referring to a Land Rover dealer.
I would be very surprised if a LR dealer would be buying 2nd hand cars from aution for resale on the lot.

What sort of $$ did it sell for at auction?

p38arover
27th March 2008, 11:43 AM
Get the 4.0 if you are considering fuel
3) Get the late 98 build on (99MY) with the Bosch ignition. My uncle has MY98 without Bosch and it is a lot more expensive on fuel despite being pretty much the same car. My Bosch 4.0 is the cheapest V8 LR on fuel I have owned by far.

I can't complain about fuel economy out of my 4.6 and I've got a heavy foot. Over the past 6 years and 100+ thousand km, I've consistently got 13 litres/100 km on the highway - that's based on fill ups and they match the onboard comoputer quite closely.

4X4V8
27th March 2008, 12:19 PM
What sort of $$ did it sell for at auction?$11.1k. I am no expert but it probably needed a new fuse block and some relays replaced, and the source of that problem was probably blend motors. I can't quite remember but it wouldn't blow hot air thru the aircon system. The front was sagging slightly before start up so I guess there was an airleak somewhere. Coolant was leaking under the front right of th engine the first time I saw it, too.

I am going to try it on with some RR private sellers who I think are trying it on with their asking price, and if no luck I have an accepted offer on a 1999 Disco V8 manual, one owner, perfect history and Mondial 18in alloys. I just need to take it for another drive and decide if I really want it. I would prefer a P38A, happy to stretch to $15k for a good one, but I am getting the impression that's not quite enough money for such a car... if not, that's fine, I' will still be buying a Land Rover :)

PLR
27th March 2008, 01:37 PM
G`day Phil , if you want to get a good feel for there value .

The ones on lots get the number and talk to the previous owner with calcs for story telling ?

Don`t know if the same works up there but down here is the end of cream time , less cars sold . Larger dealer calc for it smaller can`t .

I`ve noticed in Melb there are more P38As in smaller yards , i`d consider it`s because they`re not wanted for warranty reasons by larger and are cheap enough now for smaller . That being said i haven`t seen what your after but still feel your dollars are good .

If you want a P38A and you settle for a Disco ( way it seems ) how will you feel each and every time you see that P38 that you would have liked ?

Cheers

4X4V8
27th March 2008, 02:18 PM
If you want a P38A and you settle for a Disco ( way it seems ) how will you feel each and every time you see that P38 that you would have liked ?Yeah, i know, but from what everyone tells me the Disco will be a lot less grief.

I don't have a great deal of time anymore - 2 kids, one on the way - so while I could weigh in and fix the several problems that the RR will be bound to have eventually - the question is, will I feel like it at 10pm on a cold winter's night, the first chance I have to fix it?

I have lots of work cars, and probably don't need a LR of my own. I still want my own car, and I really want a LR. It's hard to explain, but driving other people's cars is not the same as having your own.

I really like Discos so it'll be no shame owning one. Discos fit me perfectly, really comfortable, I like their handling, ride (and the V8 sound, of course!).

We did 11,000km in a S2a TD5 on our honeymoon and my wife loves them so a Disco would be warmly welcomed in our home. As I said though, I am giving some RR sellers one last chance to sell me their car... wish me luck!

PLR
27th March 2008, 02:46 PM
I do mate , you`ve certainly put the time and effort in .

I know what you mean about the 10pm thing but any can do that to ya .

Your not making friends your buying a car , make your offer they`ll take it how they will then walk or fork but enjoy no matter .

Cheers

Disco Pom
27th March 2008, 07:52 PM
Sorry for hijacking...have just put my P38 in the marketplace :angel:

97 4.6 HSE...willing to haggle a bit on price..

cheers,
Richard

4X4V8
28th March 2008, 08:37 PM
Sorry for hijacking...have just put my P38 in the marketplace :angel:

97 4.6 HSE...willing to haggle a bit on price..Alas I have already bought a Discovery II V8 manual 7 seat with SLS (but no ACE :(), 88,000km full LR service history, 1 owner. I took it for a drive today for an hour and pick it up on Tuesday. Aside from a worn keyfob and few other minor things, it is in pretty good condition, and I am paying $12.5k - not a bargain, but a fair price. So I'm pretty happy that I finally have found a good car. I was getting sick of looking.

Anyway, your car looks fantastic - like the Mondial wheels, too, got 'em on my new D2. Good luck with the sale.

Disco Pom
28th March 2008, 09:49 PM
No probs Phil..worth a try at least !

Good luck with your new Disco..sounds a good buy..

I've got a couple of people having a look at Fluffy this weekend...time to start praying to the carsales gods..:p

cheers,
Richard

caledoniastore
21st April 2008, 08:11 PM
Just paid $19k for 2000 td5 SE7 with 86000km. Seems immaculate with 7 leather seats, electric sunroof, alloys, bullbar, towpack, SLS etc.