Help from IT pro's

[Pedro_The_Swift]

is there any way to reinstall BOOTMGR in vista?
you can rebuild the boot in XP,,
but in vista its all bcdedit stuff,,
repair doesnt work,
restore doesnt work,
a reinstall of vista will format the drive,, NOT the option I am looking for,,

will be online for another 45 mmins or so----


Peter.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

is this what I'm after???
Error message when you start Windows Vista: "The Windows Boot Configuration Data file is missing required information" (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927391/en-us#appliesto)

[Grizzly_Adams]

G'day Pedro,

I take no responsibility for what I'm about to say but....

Looks about right.

Is this the error message you get on boot up?

File: \Boot\BCD
Status: 0xc0000034
Info: The Windows Boot Configuration Data file is missing required information

[Pedro_The_Swift]

no,, all it said was
BootMGR missing
press clt alt del to restart,,

I have tried all 3 ways of repairing mentioned on the microsoft site,,

this one
cd /d c:\windows\system32

it tells me "it" cannot find the path---

I get the feeling theres a bit more missing than just the bootmgr

[Grizzly_Adams]

hmm.. you didn't have a dual-boot system did you? Weren't running linux or something on another partition?

It's possible (though fingers crossed it's not) that the file allocation table has been damaged somehow... had any power spikes recently?

[Grizzly_Adams]

You tried or seen these links Pedro:

Vista Tip: Repair "BOOTMGR is missing" error (http://lifehacker.com/software/troubleshooting/vista-tip--repair-bootmgr-is-missing-error-251733.php)

http://www.hanselman.com/blog/VistaBOOTMGRIsMissingAndTheImportanceOfTheUPS.aspx

[incisor]

chkdsk the hard drive using the console boot option on the cd from the cd.

sounds like a file system error to me

[Pedro_The_Swift]

ok,, during all my fault-finding yesterday I managed to create a new partition thanks to Inc's Hirens boot cd,, loaded vista on that this morning,,
one- because I could,,
two- because in my new heirachy I am building a designated Vista games partition,,

so it couldnt hurt

looking in MY COMPUTER on the new drive, it tells me the old drive is, well , empty!:confused:
246GB of unused pink goodness.

hmm, so, might as well create a normal vista partition. nothing left to save---



when I loaded vista in this partition,, I was looking for an option to create a NEW partition,,

but at THAT screen,, the option NEW was GREYED out???


any more ideas???

and thanks to GA and Inc for the help:D

[incisor]

go to proerties and tools and do a chkdisk on that drive/partition or whatever it is now :P...

[abaddonxi]

If it's a few corrupted files, could you boot from a linux live disk or a BartPE disk and copy the files over the corrupted ones?

Probably no help.

Cheers
Simon

[Pedro_The_Swift]

If it's a few corrupted files, could you boot from a linux live disk or a BartPE disk and copy the files over the corrupted ones?


yea! no problem!



put all that in here--
Language Tools (http://www.google.com/language_tools)

came out-

:imwithstupid:

maybe I should take up ant farming,,,

[Captain_Rightfoot]

is there any way to reinstall BOOTMGR in vista?
you can rebuild the boot in XP,,
but in vista its all bcdedit stuff,,
repair doesnt work,
restore doesnt work,
a reinstall of vista will format the drive,, NOT the option I am looking for,,

will be online for another 45 mmins or so----


Peter.
Pedro, I just don't understand? Why do you put yourself through this stuff?

:) :wasntme:

[Pedro_The_Swift]

:wallbash::wallbash::wallbash::rocket::rocket::ban gin::bangin::BigCry::bat::lol2::lol2:

[abaddonxi]

Pedro, I just don't understand? Why do you put yourself through this stuff?

:) :wasntme:

Training to be a computer tech. Most folks learn by undoing the stupid mistakes that Microsoft has made them make.

Cheers
Simon

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Training to be a computer tech. Most folks learn by undoing the stupid mistakes that Microsoft has made them make.

Cheers
Simon

You are or pedro?

If so that might explain all this pain he puts himself through. Pedro are you there? :)

[abaddonxi]

You are or pedro?

If so that might explain all this pain he puts himself through. Pedro are you there? :)

Pedro.

Most of the blokes I know started out doing something incredibly stupid and not giving up until they fixed it or worked out how.

Of course I also know of some people who just keep making mistakes and never seem to get better at it.

I've got one mate like that, just can't help himself.

Not Pedro, of course.

Cheers
Simon

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Cool I didn't know that. I couldn't understand the stream of pain that he was leaching!

[abaddonxi]

I haven't done this before, but what I'm planning on doing next time.

Download a linux boot cd, burn the iso to disk, boot the busted computer from the linux cd. This could take up to ten minutes to boot. The linux cd thing lets you get at the OS files on the hard drive without the computer running them.

Then you need the files you want to copy on something that can plug in, cd or usb drive. Hope that everything is recognised by linux.

Copy, copy, copy.

Reboot without the linux cd and hope that it's all working.

I was going to say it'd be easier just to plug your hard drive into another computer as a slave disk and transfer files that way, but I think your other computer might be a laptop which'd make this just a little difficult.

You could also do this to save any of the files you want saved and reinstall from scratch.

Or reinstall from the ghost disk set you made when you got the system to a point that was working nicely.

What d'ya mean you didn't make a ghost disk?

Cheers
Simon

[Pedro_The_Swift]

now he comes up with answers-----
good on ya!


couldnt give two hoots about the system files,,

but 7 years of collected jokes and pics are hard to replace,, also my STEAM folder,,
25gb of downloaded games,,,

I'm not sure Mrs Pedro understands the loss involved--- oh the pain,,

[abaddonxi]

25Gb is going to take a long time to transfer.

Another way of doing it is to ghost the system as is - you need to boot from a ghost boot disk - and extract the files that you want after you've fixed your problem.

Make sure, that you can extract the files from the ghost image before you start again. I know that you can do it from Norton Ghost, dunno about other ghost software.

You might need an external hard drive to speed this all up, or a spare slave drive. Ghost will transfer an image from one hard drive to another.

Good luck.

Cheers
Simon

[disco_cally]

Hi Pedro

you are experiencing the new and improved windoze it only get better from here microsoft is such a great product helpful and easy to use as long as you install nothing other that the operating system and all you want to do is sit back and look at all the pretty pretty lights.

down worry about downloading a linux live cd its easier to duck out to the local newsagency and buy a mag which comes with a live cd, I have several scattered around the house as coasters.

Most linux live disk will support burning to cd but it will be far easier to have a usb external hard drive to copy stuff to, 26 gig of steam sounds like a hard core gamer.

The external cases are cheap at the local pc markets if u have them in qld and hdd are cheap too at the moment always handy for backups.

silly question number one what happen just before windoze said i dont want to boot problem

cheers
Steve

[Pedro_The_Swift]

an attempted partition creation ---
and sudden blackout.

[disco_cally]

ouch
its a good bet then that your data is lost or at best you have lost the drive geometry (geek speak for how the OS finds stuff on the drive) which amounts to much the same thing as deleting everything and taking a hammer to the drive.

We now enter the realm of professional data recovery\hacking tools and some of the best tools run under linux, you may be lucky if you can download a bartpe recovery image that you can burn to disk and boot from that to see if it can scan for lost files.

its probably more hassle than its worth and its a steep learning curve.

have a google about for data recovery iso's and computer forensics

enjoy
Steve

[incisor]

data shouldnt be lost at all...

you can recover lost partions and file systems quite easily most of the time.

long as you dont write more data to the hdd then it is easy to get it back.. the more data you write back to the hdd the less chance you have of recovering things..

[Pedro_The_Swift]

I keep telling you, when I stuff up, its always the size of the Harbour Bridge.


vista would only give me the option of clean install, which means,, yes folk and folkettes,
a format.
And as I was using Bills "everything on C" heirachy,, its all gone.

anyway its done now, all gone, build a bridge time.

so now its back to MY "XP" Heirachy.
nothing but vista on C, ALL programs that will work elsewhere are on D, dedicated crysis drive is G,

I tried it your way Bill,,

[disco_cally]

dont worry I lost all my data on my main drive over the weekend trying to back it up to a network drive.

short story
running linux cant login into the graphical desktop ??? stupid box you were working last night..... at the command prompt started a copy process but it kept timing out on the large files.....grrr.. insert install\live disk for a different linux OS....oohh pretty desktop ok lets get data safely onto the network drive.... trying to mount the partition of the internal hard drive ..... oh crap wrong button lost partition info .... bugger ..

tried to recover it …. to slow no idea if it is working, no patience stuff it reinstall pretty OS hey presto backup and working but with only partial data on the network drive

I will have to go back to an earlier backup..... dam it lost all those video files oh well bridge building time...