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RonMcGr
18th February 2008, 05:16 PM
A Komatsu D375A-2 pulled an abandoned tank from its archival tomb under the bottom of a lake nearJohvi,Estonia. The Soviet-built T34/76A tank had been resting at the bottom of the lake for 56 years. According to its specifications, it's a 27-tonne machine with a top speed of 53km/h.

>From February to Septe mber 1944, heavy battles were fought in the narrow, 50 km-wide, Narva front in the north-eastern part ofEstonia. Over 100,000 men were killed and 300,000 men were wounded there. During battles in the summer of 1944,the tank was captured from the Soviet army and used by the German army. (This is the reason that there are German markings painted on the tank's exterior.)On 19 September 1944, German troops began an organized retreat along the Narva front. It is suspected that the tank was then purposefully driven into the lake, abandoning it when its captors left the area.

At that time, a local boy walking by the lake Kurtna Matasjarv noticed tank tracks leading into the lake, but not coming out anywhere For two months he saw air bubbles emerging from the lake. This gave him reason to believe that there must be an armored vehicle at the lake's bottom A few years ago, he told the story to the leader of the local war history club 'Otsing'. Together with other club members, Mr. Igor Shedunov initiated diving expeditions to the bottom of the lake about a year ago. At the depth of 7 metres they discovered the tank resting under a 3-metre layer of peat.

Enthusiasts from the club, under Mr Shedunov's leadership, decided to pull the tank out. In September 2000 they turned to Mr Aleksander Borovkovthe, manager of the Narva open pit of the stock company AS Eesti Polevkivi, to rent the company's Komatsu D375A-2 bulldozer. Currently used at the pit, the Komatsu dozer was manufactured in 1995, and has 19,000 operating hours without major repairs.

The pulling operation began at 09:00 and was concluded at 15:00, with several technical breaks. The weight of the tank, combined with the travel incline, made a pulling operation that required significant muscle. The D375A-2 handled the operation with power and style. The w eight of the fully armed tank was around 30 tons, so the active force required to retrieve it was similar. A main requirement for the 68-tonne dozer was to have enough weight to prevent shoe-slip while moving up the hill.

After the tank surfaced, it turned out to be a trophy tank, that had been captured by the German army in the course of the battle at Sinimaed (Blue Hills) about six weeks before it was sunk in the lake. Altogether, 116 shells were found on board. Remarkably, the tank was in Good Condition, with NO RUST,and ALL SYSTEMS (except the engine) In Working Condition. This is a very rare machine, especially considering that it fought both on the Russian and the German sides. Plans are under way to fully restore the tank. It will be displayed at a war history museum, that will be founded at the Gorodenko village on the left bank of the River Narv.

Here is a video of it being dragged out of the swamp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kKLbKHNquE

Amazing :D
Sorry if it has been posted before

McDisco
18th February 2008, 05:35 PM
Wow...the swamp must have preserved it. Sort of like the peat bog in Engalnd where they found perfectly preserve mammoths and prehistoric men (aka toyota owners).

It did look in good condition...

Angus

Dinty
18th February 2008, 05:48 PM
G'day All, That video clip has been around for quite a while and has featured in AULRO before as well, have you seen the clip of the engine starting?? cheers Dennis:wasntme:

rangieman
18th February 2008, 05:52 PM
Thats unreal even the tracks turned:eek:

easo
18th February 2008, 06:28 PM
Are there any newer links to this?

Pedro_The_Swift
18th February 2008, 06:53 PM
saw the vid of it starting up,, amazing,,,

Lotz-A-Landies
18th February 2008, 07:23 PM
What I find amazing was that the peat also preserved the German soldier! Check at the end of the footage around 50 seconds.

Diana

RonMcGr
18th February 2008, 07:51 PM
What I find amazing was that the peat also preserved the German soldier! Check at the end of the footage around 50 seconds.

Diana


:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:

Diana, you are a one and only :D

RonMcGr
18th February 2008, 07:52 PM
G'day All, That video clip has been around for quite a while and has featured in AULRO before as well, have you seen the clip of the engine starting?? cheers Dennis:wasntme:

>have you seen the clip of the engine starting??

Link?

loanrangie
18th February 2008, 08:55 PM
Thats amazing, reminds me of the WW2 aircraft that was landed on an ice shelf in Greenland and was buried under 100m of ice, they used a huge heated plumb bob to slowly melt a shaft down to the plane . A cave was dug out around it allowing enough room for it to be dismantled and winched up piece by piece. Last i heard it was in the US being restored.

langy
19th February 2008, 01:21 AM
"Glacier girl" is actually back flying in England...

Lost Squadron Museum - Glacier Girl - Middlesboro, KY (http://www.thelostsquadron.com/)

loanrangie
19th February 2008, 07:56 AM
"Glacier girl" is actually back flying in England...

Lost Squadron Museum - Glacier Girl - Middlesboro, KY (http://www.thelostsquadron.com/)


After watching the tank vids i did a quick search and found the articles on Glacier Girl.

graceysdad
19th February 2008, 10:07 PM
Wow what a find, even the German Cross looked good as day it was put on, it was obviously a captured tank commandeered into Nazi Service, Russia is yeilding some good finds these days, you dont here of tanks coming to light that often, I was amazed it come out rolling on the tracks, they must have disengaged the gearbox before shifting it, would like to see it cleaned up, probably just needed a good wash and some oil here and there.

Lotz-A-Landies
19th February 2008, 10:17 PM
Wow what a find, even the German Cross looked good as day it was put on, it was obviously a captured tank commandeered into Nazi Service, Russia is yeilding some good finds these days, ...
er I guess that would be Estonia, an independant country on the Baltic, member of NATO having freed itself from more than 50 years of Soviet occupation.

Diana

DEFENDERZOOK
19th February 2008, 11:50 PM
Wow what a find, even the German Cross looked good as day it was put on, it was obviously a captured tank commandeered into Nazi Service, Russia is yeilding some good finds these days, you dont here of tanks coming to light that often, I was amazed it come out rolling on the tracks, they must have disengaged the gearbox before shifting it, would like to see it cleaned up, probably just needed a good wash and some oil here and there.





the way i saw it......as it was coming out of the water and up the slope.....
it had the hand brake on.......

the tracks only started to turn a bit later in the vid.....

Lucus
19th February 2008, 11:53 PM
So whos got a link of then eng starting up?

WedWon
25th March 2008, 01:49 PM
Sorry to resurrect this old link (looks surprisingly good though....must've also been preserved in peat.....whose Pete?)

On a similar subject I have a great DVD of a Superfortress (the Kee Bird) that landed on a frozen lake (due to lack of fuel) during the cold war, and a bunch of yee-hah Americans that decide to salvage it by fitting new engines, repairing torn fabric to airlerons etc and flying it out.
All goes well until the over ambitious pilot takes it on a very bumpy trial taxi run, during which an auxillery generator in the waist of the plane (should have been removed prior to plane moving) falls over an ignites. The whole immaculate plane burns to bits infront of their eyes.
A little more dotting of I's and crossing of t's and this gorgeous plane would have flown again.

See link:B29KeeBird.net - The Last Flight of the KeeBird (http://www.b29keebird.net/)

Also interseting is: Air Pirates (http://www.airpirates.com)

Cheers
Jason7001

Sprint
25th March 2008, 08:32 PM
when i was living in the UK about a mile from where i went to school (no, i wasnt a keen student) was a couple of workshops, one had a running scale model of a rolls royce avon jet engine, and the one nect door was restoring a Focke-Wulf 190 that had been retrieved from a swamp in russia, half of the aluminium skin on the fuselage was in great condition, but everything needed to be re-rivetted, so a few panels were replaced, the 20mm canon were in restorable condition, as was the radial engine

V8Ian
25th March 2008, 10:41 PM
Thanks Ron, very interesting; obviously not a Lada:D. Any one else remember them?:(

Lucus
25th March 2008, 10:48 PM
I read a book about the keebird...by the end of the book i wanted to choke the idiots that in typical gung ho yank fashion destroyed a piece of history because they where rushing due to the prospect of finacial gain......:mad:

graceysdad
25th March 2008, 11:08 PM
I read some time ago about some planes in Labrador, one a B17 had force landed on a frozen lake and not recovered, later she sank to the bottom and also a B24 Liberator suffered the same fate, ultimately the 17 and the 24 were in fine condition for there time under water, the 17 was salvaged but an export permit would not be given by the Govt involved as they said it was the people of labradors property blah blah usual BS these types run, the plane sits in a recyclers yard while the ownership battle continues, these two old girls should be raised and restored for the later generation etc, this happens everywhere the planes lay decaying in jungles or at the bottom of lakes but it also applies to other types of military machinery, I wonder how many tanks are still laying under the sand dunes of the African deserts probably never again to see the light of day guess it needs desire to first find them and then the money to retrieve and restore.

procrastination inc
25th March 2008, 11:30 PM
Lada Jump - Truveo Video Search (http://www.truveo.com/Lada-Jump/id/4175208218)

dickyjoe
25th March 2008, 11:37 PM
Yeah i have seen this one before. I had a link in my favorites.

Militaarne Hiiumaa (http://www.mil.hiiumaa.ee/2000_09_14_kurtna_T-34-36/)

V8Ian
25th March 2008, 11:42 PM
They must have reinforced the front diff with telecom rope, still pretty awesome though. Wouldn't need seatbelts, reckon they would have a very tight (hands free) grip on the seats:o

RonMcGr
26th March 2008, 08:20 AM
Lada Jump - Truveo Video Search (http://www.truveo.com/Lada-Jump/id/4175208218)

LOL :D

I'll bet that kid has been doing that on a skate board for years :)