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matbor
18th February 2008, 09:28 PM
interesting read....


Blu-ray wins DVD format war


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Peter Alford | February 18, 2008

THE next-generation DVD war is over and Blu-ray, the format overwhelmingly backed by Australian early adopters, has won.
http://www.australianit.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5894300,00.jpg Australian consumers had already voted overwhelmingly with their wallets for the Sony-led Blu-ray technology


Japanese electronics conglomerate Toshiba, the pioneer and leading manufacturer of HD-DVD players and recorders, is expected to announce its surrender later this week.

The final blow fell on Friday for Toshiba and its backers - Paramount Motion Pictures, a few other studios and Microsoft - when supermarket giant Wal-Mart, the biggest DVD outlet in the US, said it would no longer stock HD-DVD players and discs once stocks expired.

Toshiba officials were not available for comment yesterday but Reuters quoted an unnamed company source as saying: "We have entered the final stage of planning to make our exit from the next-generation DVD business."

The HD-DVD camp had been besieged by defections since the January decision by Warners Brothers, owner of one of the world's largest movie libraries, to no longer issue videos in HD-DVD format.

Blu-ray, developed by a Sony-led consortium, and HD-DVD are competing optical video disc formats, designed to supersede standard DVDs and especially to take advantage of movie-theatre-quality vision made possible by high-definition television.

Blu-ray has generally higher technical specifications and is more expensive - about $200 per comparable player has been the retail rule of thumb - and Blu-ray discs have about two-thirds greater data capacity than HD-DVD.

Although a few, expensive dual-capability players have been developed, Blu-ray and HD-DVD discs cannot be played on machines of the other format. Conventional DVDs will work in a Blu-ray unit.

Australian consumers had already voted overwhelmingly with their wallets for the Sony-led Blu-ray technology. According to market analyst GfK Marketing Services, Australians had by the end of October bought 97,788 Blu-ray players (including PlayStation 3 consoles that come Blu-ray-equipped), against 3820 HD-DVD players.

The critical question now for the winners, led by Sony, is whether the great bulk of the home movie market that stayed resolutely on the sidelines during the format war will now join the victory parade.

The rush of digital technology is unlikely to leave the field to Blu-ray for two decades, as happened from the late 1970s when VHS videotape defeated Sony's Betamax in the classic format war. High-speed digital download is already shaping as a new adversary.

However, the US experience with video-on-demand has so far been disappointing and growth is likely to be restricted by broadband capacity constraints.

For consumers, the high-definition DVD war was brief: the Toshiba players appeared in Japanese stores in March 2006 and were followed three months later by the first Blu-ray machines.

However, most home movie watchers refused to make a choice, preferring to stick with "old-fashioned" video discs and players at least until the format war was settled.

In a clear warning sign to the industry, DVD sales fell last year for the first year ever, by 3 per cent worldwide.





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drivesafe
18th February 2008, 10:39 PM
I agree, a very interesting read.

For my money, I’ll be staying with standard DVD format for now and I’m waiting for full solid state home systems and Camcorders.

There are some solid state camcorders available now but like all things new, they need a few year of in use development and a major cost reduction but time will fix this.

Solid state technology will offer much high recording quality and lower power consumption, so everything will get even smaller.

The way of the future.

Cheers

HangOver
19th February 2008, 12:26 AM
About time I say ! Maybe now blu-ray will come down in price so us mere mortals can buy a recorder.



There are some solid state camcorders available now but like all things new, they need a few year of in use development and a major cost reduction but time will fix this.
Do you mean video recorders that just use memory card type storage, HD cards etc ? **if not just ignore the next bit
If so They are freely available and very cheap. We bought one from ebay. The quality is OK . The sound is a bit scratchy but I think thats because we bought an el'chepo. cheap as in sub-$100



so everything will get even smaller.

Like my bank balance :( :D:D

jik22
19th February 2008, 01:28 AM
I read a near identical article in the US this week in USA today. I think the Blu-Ray marketing dept has been busy.....

Personally, I don't like region locking in DVD's and Blu-Ray still has that while HD-DVD doesn't. In this global trade era why should I pay more in Aus or the UK for a DVD which costs almost half as much in the US, plus be blocked from buying it in the US as on Blu-Ray it won't play on a Aus or European player?

dirtdawg
19th February 2008, 04:54 AM
blu ray is also pointless unless you have a nice big plasma or lcd tv

Reads90
19th February 2008, 06:08 AM
. Conventional DVDs will work in a Blu-ray unit.



I was told that the Blue ray won't pay normal DVDs and the Hd will play normal DVD and was its feature that made most them sell. :confused:

fraser130
19th February 2008, 06:43 AM
Damn, Sony is not my favorite A/V manufacturer - don't get me wrong, they make some great gear, just fed up with propriatary (Ron?) memory sticks, discs, formats, and draconian DRM.
Oh well.

Fraser

Reads90
19th February 2008, 06:59 AM
Oh well another reason to buy a Playstation 3 then. As don't they have Blue ray

simonl8353
19th February 2008, 07:26 AM
I was told that the Blue ray won't pay normal DVDs and the Hd will play normal DVD and was its feature that made most them sell. :confused:
Blu-Ray machines do play DVD's. The cheapest way of buying one is to get a Sony Playstation 3.
Also look for a Plasma or LCD TV that is 1080P (1,080 lines Progressive scan) to get the full benefit.

x-box
19th February 2008, 07:33 AM
Oh well another reason to buy a Playstation 3 then. As don't they have Blue ray


Indeed, i got one and it's bloody great! plus if you're into games then it's a bonus. From what i understand the PS3 has one of the best blue-ray readers out there ??? And compared to conventional blue-ray readers/players, it's well priced

drivesafe
19th February 2008, 07:33 AM
Do you mean video recorders that just use memory card type storage, HD cards etc ? **if not just ignore the next bit
If so They are freely available and very cheap. We bought one from ebay. The quality is OK . The sound is a bit scratchy but I think thats because we bought an el'chepo. cheap as in sub-$100

Hi HangOver, I’m referring to the Sony Memory Stick HD Camcorder.

There’s a link below to the Sony site and while the Sony Memory Stick HD Camcorder is just a little over $2k, a 4GB memory stick to suit this camcorder ( for only 30 minutes of recording ) is around $250.

At this time the sticks make recording a bit expensive.

Sony Camcorder (http://www.sony.com.au/dis/catalog/product.jsp?categoryId=23774) and click on the HDRCX7K camcorder, on the right side of the screen.

Reads90
19th February 2008, 07:56 AM
Also look for a Plasma or LCD TV that is 1080P (1,080 lines Progressive scan) to get the full benefit.

Got one of them , but i also have a DVD player that ups normal DVDs to 1080P anyway ,so need to see what the real differance will be . But a Ps3 may be the way to go

Reads90
19th February 2008, 07:59 AM
Hi HangOver, I’m referring to the Sony Memory Stick HD Camcorder.

There’s a link below to the Sony site and while the Sony Memory Stick HD Camcorder is just a little over $2k, a 4GB memory stick to suit this camcorder ( for only 30 minutes of recording ) is around $250.

At this time the sticks make recording a bit expensive.

Sony Camcorder (http://www.sony.com.au/dis/catalog/product.jsp?categoryId=23774) and click on the HDRCX7K camcorder, on the right side of the screen.


I have a JVC 20 Gig hard drive cam corder . It is great has 9 hours of recording at wide screen ,HD and ultra fine ( longer if you go down the quality). Bougt it 2.5 years ago in Singapore for not alot really. Love it and really easy to use

matbor
19th February 2008, 08:59 AM
I agree, a very interesting read.

For my money, I’ll be staying with standard DVD format for now and I’m waiting for full solid state home systems and Camcorders.

There are some solid state camcorders available now but like all things new, they need a few year of in use development and a major cost reduction but time will fix this.

Solid state technology will offer much high recording quality and lower power consumption, so everything will get even smaller.

The way of the future.

Cheers


sort of agree ! but i think video over IP will slowly take up ! just need faster broadband here (which could take a while) !

at home I have 99% of my movies/music on a central server in the house an I can watch/listen to any of the content in any of the rooms of the house. also have a Tivo(best think since sliced bread), haven't watched any tv ads in years !

only problem with blu-ray/hd-dvd is that you need a good screen and stereo too take advantage of it !