Change from ADSL to ADSL 2+

[101RRS]

I have a 512kps ADSL plan with TPG - happy with the speed.

Apparently, Telstra has advised TPG that it is going to upgrade its exchanges over a period to handle only ADSL 2+. TPG requires its customers to change over to ADSL 2+ and they are not charging for the changeover - just the new plan. The plan I will change over to is the same cost and will have similar downloads.

I will however need to get a new modem and TPG have competitive prices on these and offer tech support if it is bought from them.

So to my question - I have my current modem hard wired into my desk top - not an issue with the new modem. However I connect my laptop to the internet via a piggy backed (to the modem) wireless router. The cost of a new wireless modem/router is $140 where the modem is only $70.

My laptop tells me that I am connected to my modem at 54Mbps - now ADSL2+ at best is 24Mbps and will be more likely be about 10Mbps. So - do I have to also upgrade my DSL wireless router as well as the modem when I change to ADSL2+.

Thanks

Garry

[incisor]

no

long as the new modem has an ethernet port you will be fine... at worst it will need reconfiguring.

[Rovernaut]

I'm with iinet ADSL2, if you are happy with the snail pace :D 512 kps speed then you'll be beside yourself on ADSL2, ,:cool::cool::cool::cool:
Like riding a Vesper and then jumping onto a 1300 cc, exhilerating:p

[Wallyb]

Unofficially you do not have to upgrade any hardware - the old ADSL modems will work with ADSL2.

The only problem is that the old modems at best do around 7Mb. Typically you will find that the old modem working on ADSL2 will get speeds around 2-3Mb.

So in theory you should be able to do nothing (other than change plans), spend nothing and then get a resonable speed upgrade when they cut you over to the new service.

Of course if you get the modem from them - it becomes their headache should there be any issues with the upgrade at either end.

The usual disclaimers implied :wasntme:

[101RRS]

Thanks everyone for the advice - on your advice I have gone ahead and ordered the modem only.

Cheers

Garry

[Pedro_The_Swift]

so whats the main difference between the two?

doesnt ADSL2 make you download early mornings?

[incisor]

how long does it take you to download an early morning?

....

pedro it is a supposedly more robust / faster protocol for digital services on a pstn line.

your experience may differ...

[101RRS]

ADSL2+ in all practical circumstances is the same as ADSL except it is a lot faster

EG ADSL at best is 1.5Mega Bites Per Second where ADSL2+ is 24Mega Bites Per Second (at the telephone exchange). However it slows down substantially the further you are away from the exchange - eg slows to about 8Mbps at 4 km from the exchange.

Any restrictions on when you can download is determined by the ISP not ADSL2+ technology.

Garry

[Xavie]

I wish I had adsl2 in my part of the woods. That would be a sweet day. Adsl is so slow. especially going from having cable.

xavier

[Disco_owner]

so whats the main difference between the two?

doesnt ADSL2 make you download early mornings?

yes

Most of the plans have a Peak and Off-Peak Period for Downloading;
ie;

TPG 150GB ADSL + 2 Plan
--------------------------

40 GB Peak
110GB Off-Peak

Peak 07:00 am till 01:00 am
Off-Peak 01:00 am till 07:00 am

during the off-Peak period of 01:00 am - 07:00 am with TPG 150 GB ADSL+2 plan you effectivelly only have 6 hours /day to download 110 GB in a month billing cycle.

[HangOver]

how long does it take you to download an early morning?


I have a 9 month old so it takes me bloody ages :D:D:D

[5teve]

ADSL2+ in all practical circumstances is the same as ADSL except it is a lot faster

EG ADSL at best is 1.5Mega Bites Per Second where ADSL2+ is 24Mega Bites Per Second (at the telephone exchange). However it slows down substantially the further you are away from the exchange - eg slows to about 8Mbps at 4 km from the exchange.

Any restrictions on when you can download is determined by the ISP not ADSL2+ technology.

Garry

ADSL is actually 8mb download and 512k (maybe 1mb) upload but telsta artificially capped the adsl to 1.5 / 256?k so they could screw more bandwidth through their lines (ie more customers less investment)

adsl2 is 12mb with 1.3 - 1.8mb upload

adsl2+ is 24mb down with 1mb / 3.5mb upload

the thing to note is adsl2+ relys on good lines, good filters, and speed drops off dramatically the further you are from the exchange. 24mb will ONLY be available if you live in the exchange. i live 1.5ks away and i get 14.5mb connection.

as an example when i was first connected i had an 8mb connection, upgraded all the lines to cat5e cable and had a central filter installed and the connection had jumped to 14.5mb.. well worth a small investment! if you live far enough away from the exchange sometimes its not worth upgrading the modem as you will never get beyond the 8mb, it never hurts tho ;)

thanks

Steve

[rick130]

Saw an interesting graph on 'nodes site this AM where ADSL2+ had a better reach than ADSL.
ie. if you are a touch too far from the exchange now, ADSL2+ may reach.

I'll see if I can find it......

[rick130]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/02/94.jpg

On the graph, the blue and green shaded areas show the theoretical maximum speeds you can obtain, at various distances from your local exchange, from Internode using ADSL, ADSL2 and ADSL2+ equipment.

[incisor]

there are some odd exceptions, i am at 7 klms and get 1.5mb on adsl, one of my clients is less than 300m from an exchange and cant hold 512k

there is more to it than just length of wire.

[Bushwanderer]

there are some odd exceptions, i am at 7 klms and get 1.5mb on adsl, one of my clients is less than 300m from an exchange and cant hold 512k

there is more to it than just length of wire.

That's true! I think that it is also dependent on the "load" at (or age of) the exchange.