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101RRS
20th February 2008, 09:50 PM
You only need to watch the first 2 mins until the helo is in view - the remainder is just of the helo.

I guess the ole bar treads don't work too well in hard, slippery wet clay - I also think a lower gear might have helped.

YouTube - Land rover 101 CRASH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWAdgu7NTL4)

abaddonxi
20th February 2008, 10:05 PM
Is it really in reverse at the top of that hill?

Cheers
Simon

100I
20th February 2008, 10:26 PM
Taller gear;)
And looked like he had the clutch in as he approached and popped it out after gathering speed (in too low a gear). The wheel running in reverse was probably the diff doing it's thang with one tyre having good grip and one zip. Looked bloody slippery, a mountain goat couldn't walk that.

BigJon
21st February 2008, 10:17 AM
Driver Error

Lotz-A-Landies
21st February 2008, 04:11 PM
Ooo Arrrrggghhhh

I wonder if the passenger was still smoking when they got to the bottom?

Not nice!

Diana

rangieman
21st February 2008, 04:36 PM
Maybe it was a automatic = no engine braking :wasntme:;)

Or too much stout:cool:

moose
21st February 2008, 05:26 PM
Geez I hate slow-mo videos with garbage emotive music. Almost as bad as powerpoint doc's.:mad:

isuzurover
21st February 2008, 05:42 PM
Driver error - things I can see wrong:

Tyres on full pressure - not aired down.
Too much brake at the start, and when it started to get sideways it looks like he braked rather than put the right boot in.
Also seemed very top heavy...

This is actually an important technique to learn for muddy hills, and is counter intuitive. When driving down a muddy hill like that - put it in first gear low range, be VERY gentle with the brakes, and be ready to take your foot off the brakes and hit the accelerator if the wheels start to lock up.

On an offroad course like that where driving the hill isn't essential - it is a good idea to drive UP the hill first to see how slippery it is.

I have only seen a 101 drive offroad a few times (firsthand) - but I was surprised how badly they performed... But I think that was mostly down to stiff springs and hard tyres.

101 Ron
21st February 2008, 07:05 PM
My 101 has now seen a fair bit of hard off road work and I have gone up and down some very greasey hills .
First up yepp......the vehicle was badly driven.
The ambulance versions are top heavy and weigh about a tonne more than a standard 101.
Standard the 101 does have poor flex and tyres and does affect its off road performance.
The legal pay load of my 101 on Australian roads is 1.5 tonnes and the spring rates reflect this.
The first thing I did with my 101 is throw away the sway bars as they are only need with the ambulance versions or camper vans.
This made a great improvement and it flexes fairly well now.
It still was not up with modern tricked 4bys.
The fitting of a rear locker put the thing a whole new world and it now can mix it with most 4bys.......the limit being my adversion to bending non replaceable alloy panels.
I find the old bar treads while good for the lack of puctures and straight out traction lack the flex in the side wall to grip over a slippery log,especially side ways grip.
Going up a supper slippery extremely steep hill in a 101 is OK.
Going down you have to watch the ar#e for lifting off the deck and be ready to quickly add revs or disenguage the clutch and roll a bit untill you can recover or thing s will go pear shaped quick.
The forward control drivers position tends to make driving the 101 down hill more scary than it should be.
Image of checking the flex - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting (http://s131.photobucket.com/albums/p299/101Ron/?action=view&current=101stuff2006044.jpg)

Sprint
22nd February 2008, 08:02 AM
Going down you have to watch the ar#e for lifting off the deck
lol i remember seeing a photo of a 101 that had come ofer a bit of a rise, come down, got to the bottom, driver mustve hit the brakes and it was parked neatly on its nose!

easo
22nd February 2008, 03:51 PM
On that first roll looks to bit a moment of complete 'airborne'.